Hello everybody.

I have stayed in one of the apartment of a malaysian in KL over 3 years. 1 year has contract other 2 years is contract-less, no contract since 2018.

but when i leave the apartment she asking 1500rm for that he painted wall (some about 1 m height of wall is sure drawn by my little kid by pen etc. i can pay for that part), asking 500rm for fridge denting (though too minor), asking 1000rm for parquet replacement for the entrance of the toilet and asking 450rm for cleaning, 500rm for A/C service , 500rm for toilet sinking, for inner curtain 300rm... 150rm for toilet exhaust .... apartment is 1 room apartment, area of 700sq. ft


is house owner too greedy that want to deduct all my deposit and asking other extra 2000rm? is these illegal.?

Yeah. I think its too much. 700sqft is quite small isn't it?

To avoid disputes, you rectified the damages.

The next tenant may not want a dented fridge ! A new cost at least 1k for 200 litre 2 door.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 28 2020, 01:29 PM

sounds like extortion... but i digress...

For me I will just forfeited the deposit and leave. Obviously she won't give you back the deposits and no point to argue.

we need to tame these kind of greedy people by law, otherwise there will be growing number of these kind people. how greedy they were ... she saying give me back my apartment as it is when you rent before 3 years ago. lol ... what a silly logic.

i told it would be like that if it was never been rented and no one is staying in it ... even it will have problem if she leave it without renting 3 years.

pay portion should be ok, but pay for so much, i think a bit too much.
unless you really turn your landlord place into hell!

Fair wear and tear should be accepted.

But repainting the wall must be done, but 1500 is quite an exorbitant price.

To pay AC service is fair, but market is 210 per AC for overhaul wash.

Parquet 1000? Ridiculous.

Cleaning can get RM 80 for 4 hours cleaner.

Inner curtain apa rosak?

Toilet exhaust == wear and tear. She should fix it herself.

Landlord is behaving unreasonably.

THe drawn wall, TS should go paint it himself, cheap and easy.

AC service should be by the owner if its advertised/rented as "with aircon".

Yes, tenants should pay for the damages before leaving the premise. They have to give back the same condition before moving in.

I think even if you done everything by urself, she will not paying u back the deposit tho. This is her intentions and this is a very bad situation for now to the one who rent a unit or a room. That's why if i find a room or a unit, I will only pay max 1 and half month deposits and I'm not expect to take back when I'm leave. haha

Market practice is landlord will repair if faulty.

Servicing will be the responsibility of the tenant.

If breakdown due to non-service, tenant bear the repair.

why don't you keep staying until you utilize your deposit as rental fee. end up you will contra your deposit as monthly rental charges...haha, just kidding

Show photos here ...

You said 'minor', landord said major. Let forumers be the judge for today.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 28 2020, 03:55 PM

I know landlord will repair if faulty...
but the $$ asked is kinda unreasonable yo.. personally...
really that bad damage done??

why not post some picture of the "damages" done.
then we can confirm it... okay or not

why the charges so high? do the damages so bad? hmm curiousss

With normal wear and tear, a landlord would also have to spend few thousands to put the unit for rent. Not sure about those damages mentioned by ts.

Easy, ask for quotation from each company invited to fix the damages

if you want you can just let the owner take all your deposit and the other just leave it. There's nothing he/she can do unless due you in small claims court that takes time and most will avoid it

plus to your advantage no tenancy agreement so the house owner can do nothing about it

This post has been edited by alextan99: Jul 28 2020, 05:08 PM

when tenancy ended, reinstate to the original shall be tenant's responsibility. However, aging for the unit and furniture, shall not be tenant's responsibility to make new.
Nowadays, landlord and tenant like to use agent's standard template, without full understand into details.
Shall photograph and list down the major potential reinstate item in the contract, better with some indicative price, so no argue in future.
Price quoted by the said landlord seems on high side, but it's good if you can share some photo, so that the experience former can give you better opinion rather than 1-sided assumption & understanding.

About RM5k to reinstate back to original condition after 3 years is IMO not excessive ... you can say fridge denting is minor but owner might need to replace whole fridge if it is not “presentable “.... those small small repairs if u cincai do can probable do cheaper but what is the end result?

Maybe you try nego a bit towards RM3k and settle in between ....

I have a friend who is into labour supply industry. So renting houses is a common thing for him. He told me out of 10 houses he rented, 9 deposits are usually forfeited simply because he was unable to restore the place to its original condition (as close as it can be).

Once he tried his luck when the landlord asked him to repaint the house. He had RM1600 deposit with landlord then. He got some painter to do the job and the total cost came to RM1600 (coincidentally). Landlord did return the RM1600 deposit but he got himself into a bit of mess and time wasted having need to repaint the house.

I guess restoration cost can differ quite a fair bit unlike what we have in mind. If landlord willing to forfeit deposit in place of restoration cost and if deposit amount is not that substantial, perhaps it will be a better idea to close the case and move on.

Is painting chargeable to tenant? Painted white for the whole house and handed over, but return house paint all.became yellow with a hint of red. Don't know what the tenant did even fans and air con turned dark yellow

Very subjective. If the discoloration of paint was even to all the surfaces, it is not the sign of vandalism. It is more likely discoloration due to aging & exposure of light. Hence such broad discoloration should not be the responsible of the tenant.

If the discoloration with very obvious color contrast due to someone forcibly applying the colors (red, blue, black, etc.), then yes.

From your description, the yellow discoloration sound more like former scenario, hence it should not be the liability of the tenant.

Sounds like Malaysia landlord like buaya, just like Malaysian real estate agents. Unreasonable and Unethical behavior. Landlord should expect and accept reasonable wear and tear as well as minor damages while tenant should make good damages and clean the unit before handing over. Some replacement cost as the replacement is brand new while it was second hand when tenant took over the rental unit. But also sounds like you didn't take care of the rented premises such that the wall need to be repainted and parquet at toilet is left to become unsightly.