Today Microsoft ambush to my office to inspect pirated Windows 10 activation.

All of my computer is Windows 10 Home that I bought.

They said Windows 10 Home is not allowed in Business Environment, also they offer discount summons if I bought Windows 10 Pro from them.

Which part of EULA mention Windows Home edition is illegal use in Business?

It illegal. Confirm. The license for home permit u use for personal use. Not using for commercial purpose of running business. Or in a business premise.

how they managed to get in ?

It's under kpdnkk I think. They have warrant usually . If Microsoft ppl u can deny entry. I believe it's collobration between Microsoft and kpdnkk.

who is that whistleblower? how many pc kena ?i remember i read somewhere if sucessful minimum 10k as the headshot reward..whoaoa naise..
ASK YOUR BOSS read the damn termsand condition la bodo

This post has been edited by yungkit14: Jul 21 2020, 06:47 PM

Without quoting that EULA here, nobody can say for sure but it's likely there's something in there to prohibit usage of software in a commercial settings. However, there are people asking similar question around in the microsoft community site and few I noted says it's okay to do so and it's just a difference in software features:-

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...e6-1a2d96d59ebc
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...f9-14e0008acd82
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...b0-30b9fbefe5b8

Unclear if that's the official position of Microsoft.

What's more interesting is whether Microsoft itself can barge into your office and inspect your equipments especially without a court order or warrant. Even if there's a breach of user terms, can Microsoft issue you a summon? Did they come in with any government officers? kpdnkk for example? AFAIK kpdnkk only check for pirated softwares. Even if it's against user terms, does it fall under their purview? I advise that you ask them to quote specifically which local laws you are in breach of so you can review for yourself. Better yet, check directly with Microsoft and get some confirmation in writing.

What I find somewhat suspicious is they are offering a discount on the "summons" if you buy Windows 10 from them. Again, who are "they" in this circumstances? Microsoft? Or the authorities? If it's the authorities, can there even be such an arrangement?

This post has been edited by btfan: Jul 21 2020, 07:27 PM

It looks with Government, KPDNKK.

They just point to Windows 10 Home that I use with default install.

I asked Microsoft Community about this earlier, and point that it's okay to use Windows 10 Home in Business.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...m=1595323019617

I don't use any Pro/Ent feature like AD, Domain, etc...

I don't use Microsoft Office, I use Google Docs.

7-zip as Archive Manager and Unity3d.

it's 10K total damage, I want to know my rights.

You know, many "gaming" laptop are come with Windows 10 Home, and I need GPU power. Many business laptop are come with weak GPU, WS laptop is too expansive due to Quadro Chips.

oh shit..scam ka ?

next time go check but how did they found out your office ?police report maybe needed ..after you contact kpdkk

they come with Microsoft Representative and Government, it come before office close.

They tell me, Bought Laptop's (Windows 10 Home) under company bill, and Home License should pay with personal expanse not as company... I didn't know that!

My friends, it is not worth it for Microsoft to worry about whatever Edition for small businesses.

There is no such thing as Microsoft ambush.

They have more profitable things to do.

It's a scam.

This post has been edited by howszat: Jul 21 2020, 08:43 PM

Online search gave result in "Yes you can use Home edition for Business" but in Malaysia based on my experience its "No, you cant use Home for business"

Since WinXP days i have had customer who encounter the same issue for windows/office/autocad, they were given a week or 2 time to acquire proper license and a min fined. I think its around year 2005-2010 when they were very active, many CyberCafe got fined along with game licenses for EA & Blizzard products, some even made it to news paper.

Today if you were to call DELL for company PC purchase they would advise you home license cannot be use for business, i guess Malaysia might have a different law or something.

I would suggest you to call Microsoft Malaysia tomorrow

edit: oh lastly, you have a whistleblower in your company.

This post has been edited by IccyAsd: Jul 21 2020, 09:21 PM

this a lot past history I didn't know.

I don't know Malaysia make Home version is illegal even Microsoft allow it...

The shop are responsible to ask, I just don't know, look online sat Home okay for Business,

I had to pay at 5K and bought Pro license from them since they called Police, this is sure not fake, real police arrived,

some laptop need reformat from Single Language to Pro.

damn it! Microsoft allow, Government says not! WTF

To my understanding long time ago there was a differentiation. But with Win10, the home version can be used at business as long as its stand alone and not connected to server, etc.

You can validate the terms and license by going to the windows search (at the bottom on the windows menu tab) and type in winver

Windows pop-up appears and at the bottom of that screen, click on End User License Agreement link.

That should give you the home license, mine is Pro, so can compare.

Also, its better to call Microsoft directly and get a confirmation and email from them so that you can show it to local authorities.

All the best man

microsoft ambush your office ? really hahahaha ? they come with custom people ?which mean one of your employee telling them ? why your employee so kejam about you lol ?or did you ask someone audit your office pc before ?
this is the only 2 possible reason you get caught

This post has been edited by zuozi: Jul 21 2020, 11:45 PM

Microsoft don't ambush directly. They only take action if someone reported to them. Anyone resigned unhappily / fired recently?


This post has been edited by mydurian: Jul 21 2020, 11:53 PM

whoever reported not bad too with commission not much better than nothing LOL

Morning later I call Microsoft Malaysia Office.

it just 4 employee including me and my partner, another 2 employee is girls who manage our social media, WhatsApp, etc... we treat them well, and they work at home.

The office is just two of us, I and my partner just a small business run small IT firm.

Just because I bought The ROG laptops with Windows 10 Home Single Language, they insist HOME != BUSINESS

there are 5 computer which all Home SL as most laptop sold.

Things is, they mad about one PCs that have Ubuntu installed but can't take charges.

Since I don't use MS Office, use more on Web Apps, seem better to buy Macbook instead.

Tomorrow they come, I still stuck one Huawei laptop that can't access UEFI BIOS, asking a password, this also need upgrade Home to Pro.

Very sad indeed, after long no source of income, we barely survived, now come the Non-senses Summon.

Unless you can prove the computer is not used for commercial purpose the law on their side. I think the raid probably done by Business Software Alliance (BSA) with MS observer and KPDNKK. Unfortunately govt recently seem to be doing a lot of these operations to squeeze money when economy already bad.

I called Microsoft Malaysia at 03-2777 8888

CS seem doesn't know about Home Edition usage in Business and Commercial use.

CS asked me to call this number instead: +80064276738

Yes... that what they called yesterday, I forgot who they are as my heart hurt so much, pain and more problem.

I already call Microsoft Malaysia Office.

Small - Medium Business is fine to use Windows Home edition, as long not using AD, Domain, etc...
When company is growing up, need to upgrade to Windows 10 Pro (excluding cheap key sold on Lazada/Shopee/etc...)

Here call recording I made, my English conversation is pretty bad, I am sorry
1-800-22-0030 Conversation, Important parts.
1-800-22-0030 Original, No Cut.

I already paid the damage yesterday, if anyone want to avoid begin Audit & Summon, please upgrade to Pro to be safe.

They also check Microsoft Office, they skip checking Apple Laptop and Linux PC's