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mini orchard
post Jul 27 2020, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 27 2020, 09:16 AM)
Suggest you to ask your lawyer 'confirmed received' without actual transaction is a fraud or not.
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Need live video recording of cash changing hand ? Can be done also .

Infront of lawyers ? Can be done also !
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post Jul 27 2020, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 24 2020, 08:20 AM)
As long as loan is repaid on time is fine.
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Have a firmed stand in your discussion !
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post Jul 27 2020, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 27 2020, 10:26 AM)
Bank in slip should be sufficient. those wanted to mark up loan are unlikely to have cash.
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Seller bank in own money and pass slip to buyer and show lawyer ? Can aah ?

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post Jul 27 2020, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 27 2020, 10:46 AM)
In leasing, proof of deposit paid (i.e bank in slip) is required before loan disbursement.

it is a matter of time, housing loan will follow their leasing colleagues sop.
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We talk marked up. Not leasing lah. Ada lain meh ? Seller still can bank in.

Why talk future ?

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post Jul 27 2020, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 27 2020, 11:23 AM)
Borrowers need to marked up are mostly subprime, a reason why npl on housing loan is rising.
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Dont speculate. That is not the point for discussion.

Repeat .. default by borrower is lain cerita

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post Jul 27 2020, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 27 2020, 11:32 AM)
Marked up loan is fraudulent.
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Is not marked up loan !

Is marked up snp price !


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post Jul 27 2020, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 24 2020, 08:20 AM)
As long as loan is repaid on time is fine.
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post Dec 7 2021, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve2 @ Dec 7 2021, 06:05 PM)
So markup spa price is legal or illegal,?
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QUOTE(forever1979 @ Dec 7 2021, 08:02 PM)
people say is illegal because bank cannot allowed this

people say its legal because the lawyer is doing it...

so how ?
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Is not about legality.

Is about whether the SnP price is acceptable to the banks.

What transpired between buyer seller is not a concern for the bank.
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post Dec 8 2021, 05:49 AM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve2 @ Dec 7 2021, 10:48 PM)
What about if SPA markup to RM500k but actual is RM390k?
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There is no stopping buyer mark up to any price level. Banks cannot question buyer's judgement on the property purchase price. Is a willing buyer seller negotiation.

The bank's business is to provide loan based on their own judgement as provided by a formal valuation report. If the report stated is 500k, then is 500k or any other price

Similarly, a borrower cannot question the bank's judgement on the property price.

In a marked-up transaction, buyer normally will have to bear the 'extra' cost incurred by seller, if any .... legal fees and rpgt.

In addition, for buyer, the legal fees for SnP and Loan Agreement plus mot and stamp duty are higher base on the amount as stated in the documents.

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post Dec 8 2021, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve2 @ Dec 8 2021, 02:35 PM)
Is it true that around 80% buyer mark-up spa for sub sale?
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I wont know the %.

In any mark-up transaction, there is no guarantee the bank will provide loan based on the figure stated.

 

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