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 Proton X50 2020 v1, B-Segment killer

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ben3003
post Sep 11 2020, 08:02 PM

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definitely will buy if price top spec below 100k
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post Sep 16 2020, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ Sep 16 2020, 08:03 AM)
I’m going over to my nearest Proton showroom to book one today smile.gif
Just wondering when I book Flagship variant, does it mean I am going to stick to that until loan approved ? Or I can change my option to Premium later on if anything ?
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i think u can tell them ur preferred model lo.. then also 2nd choice. if u wanna think twice, u can submit loan for 2 variant, then u see which loan u wan to accept lo. just that u cannot submit loan for 2 banks lol. u can tell ur SA la they can arrange for u.
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post Sep 16 2020, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 16 2020, 10:00 AM)
Usually how long does bookings open for? 1-2 months?

Personally, don't feel the rush to make the booking yet as I'm not 100% decided on the colour and would prefer to take a look at the car this Saturday first... tongue.gif

But if  there's a quota, for example first 10k bookings = Batch 1, subsequent 10k bookings = Batch 2, then I think there might be more urgency to book quickly sad.gif
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i believe booking is dealer based. definitely not nationwide under same booking, that is very hard to manage. They send the car to dealership based on quota also. So if u go big dealer u might get ur car sooner, but big dealer means more booking in queue. So sometimes small dealer less booking then then easily next is ur queue already. This is what i knew from SA. Why queue not nationwide, because the people spread around the states, let say 1st booking is in KL, 2nd in penang, 3rd in sarawak, impossible they send only 1 car to this dealer then next dealer another car, then later send sarawak, like tat logistic nightmare and the logistics cost lol.

so when booking u go the dealer u ask them how many booking ahead lo. like tat easier gauge ur chance. if only 10 booking ahead then u can get ur car soon, if 100-200 queue already maybe u go other dealer faster lol. so best is if u have SA in proton.

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post Sep 16 2020, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 16 2020, 12:03 PM)
If that's the case, any smaller dealers you can recommend in KL?

Getting a little anxious here sweat.gif
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i am just suggesting haha.. i believe in Klang Valley alot choices eh, DK leather those? these are big guys la.. cos i not staying in KV i cant recommend. i not sure how much they gonna charge, but i think the red is kinda nice tho. cos 1st time i see binyue red dual tone, i really like it and i hope it will come to msia, who knows wish come true sweat.gif

now see the price, if flagship 90k+ i think it is a no brainer.
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post Sep 16 2020, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 16 2020, 08:17 PM)
My SA also mentioned estimated RM100k+-
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shit, like tat cannot get below 100k sad.gif
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post Sep 16 2020, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(sonotme @ Sep 16 2020, 08:57 PM)
Just get premium la..
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premium no syok.. hopefully after reduce sales tax can below 100k, then can consider this year booking.
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post Sep 16 2020, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ Sep 16 2020, 09:25 PM)
Don’t think problem is the parts, but rather the environment and the car probably leaking mist etc. metal doesn’t rust by itself
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proton has anti-rust quite good one. i hope they implement on this car.
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post Sep 17 2020, 06:57 AM

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QUOTE(sonotme @ Sep 16 2020, 11:21 PM)
Got video from china, similar to honda sensing in civic now. Auto cruise control, lane keep assist, auto emergency breaking..
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i believe L2 is better than honda sensing. i believe la.. i dunno never try. cos honda sensing never say they are on par with l2 autonomous.

Level 2: partial automation
Partial automation enables drivers to disengage from some driving functions. Level 2 vehicles are able to assist with functions like steering, acceleration, braking, and maintaining speed, although drivers still need to have both hands on the wheel and be ready to take control if necessary.

With steering, Level 2 vehicles assist by centering the car within the lane, whereas the speed control function ensures that the correct distance is kept from other cars. An example of a car with Level 2 autonomy is the 2019 Volvo S60, with its auto-braking feature and Pilot Assist capabilities.
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post Sep 17 2020, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(vincent818 @ Sep 17 2020, 04:06 PM)
if the flagship is 95k ,  mean proton is trying to kill ihis eldest son  - x70  biggrin.gif
i can foreseen many x70 executive buyer will change their order to x50 flagship
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ppl buy x70 and buy x50 is diff market le, x70 is more family car, x50 is more like single or just married or decide to have 1 kid punya ppl car. but i agree they should not eat into each price range. just like hrv will not eat into CRV range.
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post Sep 18 2020, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(EvanSoon @ Sep 18 2020, 10:30 AM)
But Philippines import the car directly while we assemble in Malaysia. Not all parts sourced from China too.
Honestly I was hoping it would be 10k cheaper for the flagship.
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malaysia only 45% is local, so 55% of the parts subjected to excise duty and import tax.
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post Sep 18 2020, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ Sep 18 2020, 12:40 PM)
Does that mean we won’t get 100% sales tax exemption ?

Because even for X70 CKD that costs 100K, sales tax is only 7K
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sales tax is sales tax, don confuse with import tax and excise duty lol. CKD is 100% exemption, regardless of car company.

cos u need to see the sales tax calculation. cos this sales tax structure is not simple calculation bro. don think too much, just think ada discount can already.

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post Sep 18 2020, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(sonotme @ Sep 18 2020, 01:10 PM)
This is possible. It would make sense since buyer can decide if he wants x50 premium or x70 standard. If flagship too high, Proton still need to educate people on why they should pay more for the ADAS 2.0.

Also, much cheaper can grab sales from new city and almera.
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if is 103-105k territory, that one is HR-V and city RS territory already. ppl will think, if sama spec, lagi bagus buy city la. city EV engine, then honda sensing lagi. lagi honda badge. seriously if the price above 100k i better buy city RS lol.
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post Sep 18 2020, 03:05 PM

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if below 100k still good buy. if above 100k cannot lo.. will consider city liao.. but city inside not so cun la.. and electric motor, battery 5yrs later sure drop capacity. best if is around 95k flagship.
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post Sep 18 2020, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 18 2020, 03:30 PM)
There's a sun shade covering the sunroof as per Geely Binyue and Geely Coolray. If it isn't enough, can opt to get the glass tinted to 100%
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if the shade is piece of plastic like x70 then that one i think still can feel some heat radiated inside the car.
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post Sep 18 2020, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(Acoen @ Sep 18 2020, 07:38 PM)
Just a good tint for the sunroof and windscreen/window with good heat rejection.

So far, X70 aircond did a good job in cooling the cabin.
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cos is proton, proton is famous for aircon sweat.gif
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post Sep 19 2020, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(death_nite @ Sep 19 2020, 05:03 PM)

Ocean blue looks nice!
And this also confirm x50 come with auto wiper. I found out this function is handy. I dont know why no review mention it. 😅
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because this function, mana mana kereta baru pun ada sweat.gif
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post Sep 19 2020, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(death_nite @ Sep 19 2020, 06:01 PM)
Which B segment have auto wiper (beside fiesta)?
Iriz persona dont have. I think vios also dont have. Current city/jazz also dont have.
If auto headlamp i agree lah and this one got mention so many time.

I dont know.
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ohh u say is b seg.. if hr-v ada ma.. this car compare hr-v, xv, cx-3, c-hr category.
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post Sep 19 2020, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(death_nite @ Sep 19 2020, 06:21 PM)
Ok la u win. I didnt compare it against b segment suv but b segment sedan bcos of pricing.
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normally ppl would compare apple to apple. then only see the price diff, then only can know which apple is more value.
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post Sep 20 2020, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(steven789 @ Sep 20 2020, 08:45 AM)
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Lower spec engine not only has less power but also higher fuel consumption.
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becos direct injection is definitely more efficient that port injection.
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post Sep 20 2020, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Sep 20 2020, 09:54 AM)
I'm targeting the Premium. Not infavor of these upgrades:

1. TGDi engine - DI engine tends to buildup premature carbon. This will need additional maintenance

2 .Panoramic sunroof - Dont find this useful in our weather

3. Driver assist - Dont think it will be useful for my driving
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euro4m standard will eliminate the carbon build up. that one happened becos last time our fuel is euro2 only. now even ron95 is euro4m, so this should not be an issue. panoramic sunroof is like love it or hate it. i never drive 1 before so i dunno, but i think can open during morning and not in afternoon then is still cool. probably open at night is very breathtaking.

driver assist, this one good for kl ppl or place alot jam. but if u drive in smaller city area then no much use.

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