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 Proton X50 2020 v1, B-Segment killer

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post Oct 16 2020, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Oct 16 2020, 12:31 AM)
I see, yeah I saw that video before.
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this wont be issue if
1) your passenger all young people
2) u dont park close to a car


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post Oct 17 2020, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(muncheno @ Oct 16 2020, 03:12 PM)
On 27th Oct will inform you the pricing but but.... actual launching date in Jan 2021.

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what ohmy.gif
but they would still start delivery car by Nov kan
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post Oct 19 2020, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(muncheno @ Oct 18 2020, 10:26 PM)
Want to get your input here.

X50 is using torsion beam suspension on the back vs. X70 using multilink with stabiliser.

What is the pro and con you would see?

For X50
Pro:
Cheaper to maintain.
More tune for sport (more durable).

Less space occupied yet still small boot space for X50. šŸ˜‘

Cons:
Less comfort?? due to limited tuning can be done by proton.
More noisy??
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independent suspension have all round superior road holding ability
torsion beam might not as good
x50 torsion beam design is incomparable to iriz torsion beam design
iriz was way ahead with the handling focus characteristic while x50 is like a carbon copy from a vios torsion beam

usually when manufacturer talk about torsion beam is easier to package , they were mostly bullshit as
their sporty variant would use multilink while maintaining the space , like last time auris , elantra, wish, altis , a class , ford focus


back to the topic
x50 likely to be cross in x70 price range, its just up to you if you want a larger but less spec car or a smaller but full spec car

Do take note that x70 even in its exec form already feature some degree of ambient lighting thru out the car while x50 even the flagship doesnt have them at all
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post Oct 20 2020, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(Xteoh @ Oct 20 2020, 07:17 PM)
"With regards to the Proton X50 launch, we are continuing according to the schedule for a virtual launch of our new SUV. Initially, we planned to have a physical launch but even before the implementation of the CMCO the company had decided that such an event would not be in tandem with the mood of the nation and decided to scale things down considerably. As for our the production of our cars, while this incident means workers in the Engineering Division need to be under quarantine, we do not expect it to impact our production volumes."  brows.gif

So virtual launch when ?  hmm.gif

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somesay 27 Oct
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post Oct 27 2020, 03:48 PM

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Proton/dealer is forcing customer to take package
1 package is 3500 another is 3300
include powerboot ....



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post Oct 27 2020, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Hugodog @ Oct 27 2020, 03:50 PM)
Anyone got info when is the first batch X50 deliver out?
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The one you touch in the showroom is the first batch customer car la brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Oct 27 2020, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Hugodog @ Oct 27 2020, 03:59 PM)
sure or not...
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tipu you got no money brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

showroom only own the test drive unit
other display unit is customer car rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 27 2020, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(freeman1 @ Oct 27 2020, 04:42 PM)
Official?
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Proton say this to dealer
i give u 1 unit of x50 ,u buy either 1 package from these 2

so it become
every single x50 also come with this Rm 3300 or Rm 3500 package which include this powerboot
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post Oct 27 2020, 05:58 PM

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For those who dint believe , here an snapshot of the memo


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post Oct 27 2020, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 27 2020, 06:23 PM)
The word "offer"...
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thats the different between an SA and Normal people

Allocation come = your car already come

the whole sentence mean for each car i gave to your showroom , showroom need to buy 1 set of these package and offer to the customer

if the showroom have 100unit x50 , only 30people take , mean around 70 set laying around

so question come
IF you are the shop owner, would u force the customer to get one ?
IF not you gonna bear the 3k as next x50 that come to the showroom also come with the package nod.gif
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post Oct 27 2020, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(freeman1 @ Oct 27 2020, 06:14 PM)
Wa... like that can report them to SPRM already
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Proton will push and say this is dealer fault
but dealer is kambing hitam je
they indirectly force customer to take

scene 1
Customer happy , pay 3k no problem
scene 2
customer unhappy , call proton fuck them, proton fuck the dealer , dealer dont "force" the customer
dealer stuck with that stock, but proton happy, all parts has been paid by dealer rclxs0.gif rclxs0.gif rclxs0.gif rclxs0.gif
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post Oct 27 2020, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(freeman1 @ Oct 27 2020, 07:12 PM)
I will go for option 2 unless the dealer gives 50% discount for the accessories...
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But they purchase with full price too

kesian the dealer
customer x mau buy then who gonna eat it up

they is even a graph showing how much production these package have

indirectly we know that proton is readying around 6k unit of car until end of this year
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post Oct 27 2020, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(JobCareer @ Oct 27 2020, 08:09 PM)
Which dealer do you go ?
I'm getting the same info too.
Wondering is the dealer or proton decision on that compulsory accessories
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No diff
Proton is hiding behind

i even put out the memo you can read your self

if TLDR ,
Proton say 1 give u 1 unit of x50 , showroom must buy 1 unit of packages
so showroom sure need to sell it to customer but rather sell now, is forcing customer as EVERY x50 also come with such package la rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 27 2020, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(steven789 @ Oct 27 2020, 07:01 PM)
My SA said it's compulsory to get the package at the moment. FTH. Hope someone will complain or sue them.
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A group of "future" owner is currently spamming proton fb for this
please do the same also

this is unacceptable , proton it self hiding behind saying dealer fault when they themselves want dealer to take 1 package for every x50 they receive

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post Oct 27 2020, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ Oct 27 2020, 08:48 PM)
I have just talked to SA and confirmed to take Premium spec. Tomorrow only submit loan request.
Wonder if loan approved within a week, how long do I need to wait since I’m one of the few first hundred bookings on the first day of announcement lol
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u might be in bad position
some company need LOU ( letter of undertaking ) from bank in order to secure your booking position
many already submitted their loan earlier than you they would get the car first console.gif
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post Oct 28 2020, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Oct 27 2020, 09:18 PM)
Guys that add on is just optional, no need to panic. If your dealer is forcing you just tell them you will contact proton regarding this issue. Don't listen too much from strangers on forums.
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i say it again
the issue is Proton forcing the Dealer to purchase
so once purchase, your SA can only do 1 thing
ask his customer to buy, you don't want nvm, ask next one, if the next customer buy, he get the car first

ada faham ??
YES you definitely have the right not to pay BUT the package is going No where, so either they find customer who willing to pay first
or Until proton stops this bullshit
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post Oct 28 2020, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(jaychew90 @ Oct 28 2020, 12:11 AM)
Regarding the 2 accessories package. Many dealers did not understand the memo from Proton HQ.

The memo mentioned each "unit of allocation received". These units are the display/test drive units that the dealers received days ago. Proton HQ is NOT referring to customer units.

For example, if the dealer received 2 X50 for display and test drive purposes, they need to order 2 accessories packages and suppose to install them at those 2 units.

Many dealers thought each customer unit need to order one accessories package which is not meant by the memo. So if your SA is forcing you to buy one, explain this to them. And if they dont believe, ask them to reconfirm with HQ instead of asking their boss or whatever.
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I'll break it down for you

From the recent 5 states x50 Special Preview session feedback, majority customers are interested and consider power tail gate is a must have item

Following that , for every unit of x50 allocation received , Outlets are required to order one set of X50 accessories packages with power tailgate( either urban or utility package) from Aftersales and offer to customer
, Customer that interested to purchase this accessory package can in corporate it into their hire purchase loan application

For better management and to expetide accessory delivery to outlets, for the the first batch of launching unit, Aftersales HQ will assist to issue PO on outlet behalf for display n Test drive unit
[SIZE=14]. Subsequence Unit

Point 1
Customer say is a must have

Point 2
Every unit of x50 allocation , outlet required to order 1 set of the sampah package

Point 3
For lauching unit, After sales HQ will assist issue PO

IF, your case is true , there wont be point 2, since PROTON already issue PO for display and test drive unit, what is the need to ask dealer to order 1 set of sampah package ? ? ada faham ?

the last paragraph is what ? the memo leak end with Subsequence unit need to order directly to their aftersales HQ

you can think your way for sure, for as of now, proton is not retracting the memo yet rclxm9.gif

AND for the display unit itself
these unit will be register as customer car, who gonna pay for the accessories ? icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 28 2020, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Oct 27 2020, 10:34 PM)
Is this normal? Or quality issue?

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not sure what you asking on the first pic

2nd pic is like dat one
the door is weld together , you can find around 3~4 place like this on each x50 door
some car do it nicer, some even use a piece of rubber to cover it, but x50 choose to run naked

QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Oct 27 2020, 11:45 PM)
First batch defects....

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u mean the hatch already close but with such huge gap?
maybe not yet fully close kut sweat.gif

#bersangkabaik

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post Oct 28 2020, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(ayonan @ Oct 27 2020, 09:19 PM)
My SA said the same thing too. Q based from LOU. So what's the point of them collecting all the booking also donno la.
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actually best bid is
do the loan first, settle whatever issue may arise BEFORE launching
then when the actual price is out, your SA will submit a amended vso to the bank
your new amended Lou can out within 1 or 2 day

some bank like public bank open for the loan x50 base on a rough price like 1 or 2 week ago brows.gif

QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 27 2020, 09:21 PM)
So if pay cash can jump Q?
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Not really but cash buyer will be ahead of ayonan now
Every brand have diff mechanism
some use booking date + lou date
some solely use lou date ( this cash will be faster as when they booking its consider like loan lou done status )

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