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post May 4 2021, 04:18 PM

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Is it worth it to get thule transport rack for my bike ? I seen alot of ppl buy them but they are expensive.... i want to go for cheap one but scare the quality can't hold up with our weather
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post Oct 4 2021, 08:43 AM

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Have any tried raise 30 handlebar and 50 stem....is it good for technical climb... ?

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post Oct 5 2021, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(coklatua @ Oct 5 2021, 12:58 PM)
In theory, it will make the cockpit higher.
Higher cockpit = less weight at the front = harder for technical climb.
Maybe thats why we dont see many pro XC rider use riser handlebar.

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I use 27mm rise with 50mm stem.
So far dindt have any issue on loose technical climb.
Its all about the weight balancing skill.  smile.gif
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Do you lean more forward when climb ?
Actually im using 20 raise with 50mm stem.... Wanted to change my handlebar to renthal but cant find any one selling 20 raise bar for renthal in shoppee or lazada so i end up getting 30 raise.....
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post Oct 6 2021, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 5 2021, 09:47 PM)
On a steep climb the front may get lifted up.
  Need to move your body over the handlebar.
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QUOTE(coklatua @ Oct 5 2021, 10:20 PM)
Yup.
Basically need to balance the front and the rear weight.
Too heavy at front will make back tire lose traction and will cause it to spin.
Too heavy at rear will make front end lose traction and will lead to wheelie.
Plus, we also need to apply appropriate torque to the pedal.
Gearing also important.
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What is the width you guys are running on.....
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post Oct 6 2021, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(coklatua @ Oct 6 2021, 09:01 AM)
Mine is stock 780..
Quite wide at first but after sometimes, I like it.
I like the stability when going fast downhill.
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it is against your height right ? wont affect your climb hill stability ? Because as i know ussual ppl would cut the lenght based on the fomula of person height X 4.40....current bar i used was 740....plan to cut the new bar to 750 ....not sure if it is too short

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post Oct 6 2021, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(coklatua @ Oct 6 2021, 12:24 PM)
I dont know this before.
163x4.40=717.20
Yup, way wider.  laugh.gif
On climb, I dont notice much difference with the wide handlebar.
But when downhill, definitely can confirm more stable with the wider handlebar.

I think handlebar preference depend also on the type of riding.
On my XC bike, I dont use wide handle bar, I use 720.
Before this, 680. Too narrow for my liking.
780 is on my trail bike.
Wow. Very nice price there... Especially the cable housing.
The handlebar also nice, 35 summore.. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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post Oct 6 2021, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 6 2021, 01:16 PM)
UNO also got fake ?

Haha

Anyway thanks for the info.
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Just brought a fake cane creek headset...temporary replacement for my sold frame laugh.gif
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post Oct 27 2021, 09:19 AM

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Guys, just want to ask...had anyone try oval chain ring before ? Is it a gimmick thing ? ..... i seen alot of ppl recommended them...actually im having a dilemma whether to jump back to 30T or remain at 28T since i do much climbing....

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post Oct 27 2021, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(thurtin @ Oct 27 2021, 10:32 AM)
not a gimmick for me. been using one for 5 to 6 years now. you will surely feel the difference when climbing, especially on flatter climbs. i'm not a strong climber so it helps me to find a better rhythm and cadence because of how each pedal stroke seems to be more efficient. When i went back to round chain rings for a while, i thought i felt more "wasted" energy when the pedal stroke goes from top to bottom, if you know what i mean. On flats and downhills, no difference or help. in fact, it will feel weird in the beginning.
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What the size of oval chainring you used ?
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post Oct 27 2021, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(thurtin @ Oct 27 2021, 10:56 AM)
32t
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Just brought 30T....i still afraid of jumping back to 32T coz the last round i used round 32T struggle pretty much on hills... i'm not a strong climber and just a weekend rider laugh.gif
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post Oct 27 2021, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Oct 27 2021, 06:07 PM)
I have had both before, still macam no difference. Pedal uphill still also very tiring LOL. I had a 28T chainring initially but I killed my crank arm which led me to change to a Shimano SLX one with a 32T (only 32T was in stock). Recently swapped back to 30T because I was having issues trying to tackle the technical uphill with 32T.
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True.
Initially when i change my crank arm....it comes with standard 32T, i thought it is sufficient for me until i hit the hill....then i know the true problem
later i brought 28T and never look back since for the hill climb but im suffering thru on the flat road.....so i was thinking if i change to 30t oval might be best of both world.....climbing and also not to suffer as bad on the flat....coz oval give original 30T while give 28T at the same time

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post Oct 29 2021, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(coklatua @ Oct 28 2021, 09:13 AM)
I also didn't feel much difference to be honest.
Recently just switch from 32t oval to 38t round chainring on my XC bike.
Apart from the ratio, the pedalling rhythm I cant feel the difference.
At least on smooth road. I rarely do technical offroad on my XC bike bcoz of my crap fork. sweat.gif
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Yeah, alot of ppl say it will not make difference on the smooth road as the difference can only be felt on technical trail or climb..... hmm.gif

It is really work i think i will be great for me as best of both world.... i always wanted a better speed on smooth road and also ease on the climbing also and having a single 28T just wont cut it..... i know most will say why not go back to 2 by but for me rather kept my cockpit clean and less noise on the front
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post Oct 29 2021, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Oct 29 2021, 09:31 AM)
I believe first thing you choose a wrong bike to do so.

Use a santa cruz butcher to XC and some more aim for climb. hihihi.
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Why santa cruz butcher can't climb ? actually i'm not aim do to championship climb.....but something to ease the climb only

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post Oct 29 2021, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Oct 29 2021, 09:46 AM)
because some bike original design for other purpose.
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It can climb but slow only because it is heavy bike, actually i'm not aim do to championship climb...... at the end of the day, it is just leg power to bring you up the hill but also need to tackle to set used also....you cant be putting 38T and expect to climb well

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post Oct 29 2021, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Oct 29 2021, 09:52 AM)
I dono how you set up your santa cruz but since you said you convert 2x SLX to single ring. Then how about the rear? still using 10 speeds 36T ?

So you expect people guess here and there for your bike set up and advise you how to climb is it?
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Fully revamp most of the old component to new one

Rear 11 Speed - 11-51T
Front single chain ring - 28T
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post Oct 29 2021, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Oct 29 2021, 10:02 AM)
like this should be ok.

Bike geometry for this bike not good for climb. But if you want then train stand ride in flat road first. See how long time you can stand.

After enough training then just train for up hill.
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no need to practise, this set up should be fine with me on the climb...just want to know if oval chainring does help or not only if compare to round chain ring...coz im itching to try new thing if it really help
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post Nov 1 2021, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 29 2021, 08:46 PM)
Certain things need to test it out yourself
Just like saddle.

Why not just buy an oval chainring and give it a try?  If you don't like it.  Can easily sell it off.
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Actually it is only the way here from china.....brought a cheap one to try out first.
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post Nov 1 2021, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Nov 1 2021, 11:44 AM)
Out of curiosity, what is your definition of a climb? Road? Tarmac? Gravel? Offroad? Smooth? Technical climbs?
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You mean the route condition that im climbing on ?
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post Nov 1 2021, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Nov 1 2021, 03:06 PM)
Yup, it helps with the selection of different stuff to the bike. Even from simple things like how many spacers you have between your stem to what length stem you are using, etc..etc..
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Partial Gravel and sand, Partial Cement Road...Typical route normally you see ppl are building up to their farm
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post Nov 1 2021, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Nov 1 2021, 03:25 PM)
ok then don't worry about the chainring or anything else as most bike should be able to tackle those sort of terrain
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It is all about cadence to tackle to climb...l
last saturday i doing my usual routing climbing.
Before i started to climb, i saw this guy with a trek hardtail just unloaded his bike from the car and ready to climb to same route at the foothill.....

so i took the lead to go in first and when ahead of him, just when i was bouts the end the trail with one big climb....that guy just came from behind and smoke me in the climb....dang..... biggrin.gif sad.gif

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