Death isn't something easy to face with and we, human, often avoid the discussion of it. But we will all have to meet with death one day.

Would anyone like to share how do we deal after someone in your family has passed away? Call the police/ ambulance first? Then mortuary? and then the undertaker ....?

Also appreciate if you have any religious or cultural practices, so others from this forum may learn from it.

Thanks.

Yas please! i am in need of this info actually.

Posting for future reference...

If at home and non suspicious death ...

1. Ask a dr to confirm death and cause.
2. Lodge police report.
3. Police will go to the house to take photos
4. Go JPN to report death

Death without prior planning can be expensive.
5. Call undertaker.

EDIT ... DO NOT TOUCH OR MOVE THE BODY.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jun 30 2020, 09:44 AM

Report to ketua kampung/blok first. they will telling you what to do. then report polis and doc. Nowdays below 60 must doing post mortem by hospital.
Wait for Sijil kematian by doc, permit kubur by polis.

What next depend of religion.

This post has been edited by JLA: Jun 30 2020, 09:01 AM

Everything done after ones' death, is just meanless to the decease, I think.

This topic is about the legal process, closure and not ceremony.

I see. Skimming too much
Still those process doen't mean anything to the decease also.

Anyway, my experience is went to JPN, to get the sijil kematian. That's the starting point for the rest of the process with bank, inso, properties, will...

Is for the living. Someone can report a missing person !

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jun 30 2020, 09:33 AM

I remember my grandfather died on his bed at home.

Then, my family just called the funeral people to come settle the funeral.

Didn't call any ambulance or doctor to certify death.

That's also because he was quite old already.

Are we legally required to call ambulance to certify cause of death if died at home?

You dont call ambulance...call a dr. What happen if is murder ? A layman cannot differentiate between a natural death and murder.

Old doesnt mean cannot be murdered ... someone may be waiting to get hold of inheritance. TVB movies alot of this plot.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jun 30 2020, 09:46 AM

It's different from Muslims and non-Muslims.
Even for non-Muslims, it differs depending on religion requirements.

In Malaysia uually three parties involved.
- medical personnel (usually doctor)
- police
- next of kin

Possible scenarios
Die in hospital and no foul play suspected: hospital will release the body and documents to next of kin's. Next of kins can take d body themselves or assign undertaker. Police not involved

Die in hospital and foul play suspected (murder, accident, negligence, etc etc): hospital or next of kin makes police report. Police will decide further action.

Die at home: usually call hospital. Ambulance will come to certify death, or resuscitate if still alive. Must report police and let police rule out foul play. Police will decide what to do next.

Religious activities/undertaker only involve after police releases the body.

This post has been edited by Goofus: Jun 30 2020, 11:37 AM

A dr confirmation, a police report and jpn notification should be std.

Religious and legal requirements are different....same with registration of birth.

If refering to burial rites, then it should be religion.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jun 30 2020, 12:00 PM

Generally any private or govt dr can certified a death unless he suspected foul play, then the body have to be sent to hospital for post mortem before police can rule that out.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jun 30 2020, 01:40 PM

1. Call 999, report death, let them know the location, the paramedics will come and certify, they will print out a piece of paper with the time of death on it.

2. For buddhist, call the people from the funeral service and they'll come take the body to the funeral place. Just give them the piece of paper, along with other documents like IC & portrait photo, the deceased's favorite clothes, they will report to the police for you (to get the death certificate & also 'permit mengubur'. They will prepare for the wake ceremony.

3. Inform your relatives & friends the location/time of the wake ceremony (1st day).

4. Go look for columbarium the next day morning, continue wake ceremony for the 2nd day.

5. Funeral & laid to rest on the 3rd day.


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This post has been edited by cucumber: Jun 30 2020, 05:55 PM

Call ambulance first. The medical officer will check for pulse and confirm death. Then call whatever burial service ppl to come, they will come and change clothes of the dead, clean, and put into coffin.

If you have doctor letter to state that the patient is sick and is in final moments then show them to rule out murder. Lol

While they preparing the corpse someone close can go report police.

After get the confirm death with medical officer personel code, bring to police station to report. Police will send someone with you over to visit and confirm

The burial ppl need the report to apply for learn kubur.

This post has been edited by Ned_Fromthenorth: Jun 30 2020, 05:53 PM

Some useful info here.
Parking, for future reference.

Can we talk about the prices, keen to know if burial prices differs much
Or cremation is a cheaper, hassle free option

this part ask your local community. These are the same people who help u family during the process

FIL passed away in Dec.

All in plus cremation ... about 50k.

If planning in advance, about 30k plus according to agent.

Still need to settle , takkan left the body there to rot

That's quite alot, pardon for asking what happens to the ashes?
are they kept somwhere like Nirvana?

Or thrown to the sea like my last best friend?

Kept at nirvana.

I opted for the 2nd option when i am gone. Informed my children oredi.

Can I assume your chinese then?

Is it a reccuring cost to be kept there, or a one off payment?

What about burial?

Advance by how long?

Yes

I think the payt all in.

Not sure about burial.

My wife wants 'bungalow'. Lol

Plan b4 death.

Advance how long .. cannot answer you. Death can happen anytime.

Last min, many opinions among children. Headache. So I just observed from the side after contributed my family portion.

Sufu said bow, I bow. Stand I stand.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 5 2020, 10:02 AM

That's expensive as heck
I think mine would be 1-2k max

When you are gone, you have no say actually. Depends on the children. Not sure my wish of throwing ashes in the sea will be fulfilled, instead kena lokap.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 5 2020, 10:13 AM

Anyone knows whats the process for malay?

Last time i remember in old malay neighborhood they have a group of surau people collecting khairat kematian from each house and will handle the body.

How's the process nowadays when you live in highrise/non malay majority area?

1. Call the ambulance / doc.
2. Then what?

XiaoEn cheaper, my grandma about RM20K + few years ago

My FIL,..I have no say.

How old are you?

If 60 and above passed at home, call the police to verify the death.
If 60 and below at home, call an ambulance.

If in hospital, easier. Can call direct to proceed to the funeral.

Then can contact ur respected agent/undertaker to take over all the necessary, such as which where to held the wake, what ceremony, embalmment, burial or cremation..

If u call funeral.home

They will do all for u, rigth?

If elderly passed away at home it’s like this ...

1. Call 999 / ambulance and wait for medical officer to confirm death
2. Call funeral parlor and wait for the funeral director to come over
3. Pick casket, funeral picture and funeral package
4. Clean the deceased and put in proper clothing for the deceased
5. Place deceased in casket
6. Inform relatives and friends
7. Start packing the deceased favorite personal belongings

The rest of the funeral procession just follow what the funeral director instructs.

Then along the way, someone will ask you if you want to bury or cremate. An agent will bring you to go see the columbarium / burial spot and discuss pricing.

In between you will need to report and obtain a death certificate.

Depending whether the deceased has any will. If none, family members will choose to clear all bank accounts and safe deposit boxes on the first or second day of the deceased passing to avoid complications from other family members and banks.

This post has been edited by WaterBuffalo: Jan 21 2021, 01:42 AM

My guess is the joint account holder/authorized person doing this will not inform the bank of the death .
Very likely, the bank staff would have guessed something is amissed when all account s are cleard out at the same time.
Just wondering if most bank staff will just process the withdrawals despite this ?

you reported death to jabatan pendaftaran negara will auto trigger to bank negara. cash out before then.

i think the process are still the same.If im not wrong,the hospital can do the mandi jenazah and then the kariah will take it from it. But yes,the kariah will handle it at the end of the process.

They won’t ask if you’re the legit joint account holder.

I was at a bank once when this uncle came to withdraw all the monies from few of his joint account with wife.
After he left,the teller said he suspected the wife passed away but he just pretend he have no knowledge of it.
But if he wanted to follow SOP, and after enquiry, if it is known that one of the joint account holders is deceased, they are not supposed to released the money until the proper documentations are obtained .

If this is correct legal position, I am wondering how many tellers will follow SOP and how many just act "don't know"?

Not sure about front counter banking operations. But teller should or would not ask such question. Instead they can see from the system if there’s a court order to stop the withdrawal.

Legally if I understand correctly, if A and B opens up a joint account and A has passed on then the money is split 50 / 50 between A’s estate and B. B is allowed to withdraw all amount BUT if required by law B would need to return the excess of the 50%