Anyone who can use Lovren as 1st choice defender and Karius for 1st choice goalkeepe4 for a few seasons will definitely be able to bring out the best of any players. Haha. There's also Gini, quite average before Klopp came. Henderson was once overrated and almost sold off. Many more I'll say. Everyone transformed under Klopp.

Who knows what will happen to Werner, had he came to Liverpool working under Klopp.

Ah ya whoever can make a Hull defender world class, can definitely make anyone world class.

Time of the year for new news. Do we need any RB or CB? Pretty sure we're well stocked in GK, MF and FW.

I think the only irreplaceable at the moment is Alisson. Haha

Most clubs don't buy a top goalkeeper to sit on the bench. And so far, nobody heard stuffs of Alisson being unhappy or any clubs trying to lure him away. And he's only 28 with top goalkeepers usually lasting 35 before starting to fade. And if he plays like Buffon or Van De Sar, then he's gonna sit there till 38 or 40. So yea, he's the only player irreplaceable for next 10 yrs if he continue to be top of his game.

Many meh. Our back line are injury prone. Better than more than less.

The best player today is Milner. Somehow got away with all his challenges, some quite reckless. Some would have gotten him yellow

Well Milner made Zaha so pissed off. Henderson gotten his card, Tsimikas was equally lucky. I think tsimikas should have conceded a penalty too. Milner had more dangerous challenges while Tsimikas had higher card-able challenges.

I hope MU relegate this season. Has always been a thorn.

Theatre of Rubbish la. OT = Only Trash.

#OleStays #WeLoveOle #OleOutSteveBruceIn

Very true. Painful

Hopefully we buy up for January. Otherwise gonna be MU no.2. Watford is the best.

What choice man. Are you gonna spend millions and let them sit on bench like MU did? Even Shaqiri doesn't want to sit in bench. And team harmony is good now, Klopp doesn't want to interrupt it. Only MU can bench players coating 50 60 mil. Ah that of coz if you pay them 200k a week

Whatever we critic here, we only syok sendiri anyway. Why? We're not Klopp and he will not read this forum either. Haha

LOL form opinions that has no bearings on what Klopp does. All top teams have sufficient depth coz they pay huge salaries. I don't think we pay huge salaries for squad players. And we even need to sell just to buy new players.

Unless you're willing to pay millions and let them sit on bench, which isn't what Liverpool does. We couldn't even renew Gini's contract with the salary he needs, or give Shaq more play time. Liverpool is always a club operating on a tight budget. Are you new to the club?

Haha you talking about me joining lowyat since 2018 and you since 2008? Haha what a lonely life u had to join 10 yrs earlier.

Anyway FSG has done great giving us some money to let us win UCL and EPL. Don't see any previous owners doing any shits, unless you've been around to watch since 1989-90, then decided to join the forum to rant your shits at not winning for the past 19 yrs, then we finally won after your 11 yrs wait at the forum.

Haha calling FSG to fuck off is stupid especially when you're just seeing from a supporters perspectives. Liverpool's squad has far outgrown its value FSG first invested back then. Yes FSG can fck off, but who's gonna buy us? Nobody's gonna sell at a loss, especially with Liverpool commercial value now worth billions. Who's gonna buy? You ah? Or your father can buy off Liverpool?

Hahaha learn history. Again, history has no bearings. Football is all about business. You think it's easy to scout a Robertson or Tsimikas everyday? That's why the scouting department works hard. You can't just simply throw random money and hope it works. Not everyday is Sunday. When it doesn't work, ppl like you will curse and rant. When it works, you use them as example of good signing at low price. Even shaqiri who came cheap doesn't want to sit on bench, decided to leave for more game time. Every game rotate just to get players playing? Hahaha and that's why Klopp is the coach, you're the supporter ranting in forum for past 23 yrs. Because you're not qualified at all. I don't ever appear much in Liverpool forum here because I support the team for what it is. Only foolish fan like u curse and rant. #FSGout??? Then who's gonna buy us who now probably cost billions. Your father ah? Mai bodoh can.

Yes I do admit they suck, but better than Tom Hicks and George Gillett. Anyway if u say before FSG came, our value were much lower that time. I was hoping for an oil-rich owner to come, but FSG came. I won't deny I've also seen good progress with FSG, though not as much as I hope it will be. However, I won't call for FSGout, reason because our value have skyrocket ever since we won the UCL and gotten ourselves new Nike sponsor deal. Who's gonna pay billions for us anyway?

Please don't compare ourselves with PSG, Newcastle or ManCity. PSG may have good value, but they don't cost as much as us back then. (Qatari Investment spent 100mil to purchase PSG, which is PSG full value at that time, same time, Liverpool was sold for 300mil to FSG). Same goes to ManC and Newcastle. Nobody can afford our value anymore, at least from point of investment purpose. Liverpool value is already almost at peak now so nobody is going to spend that much money for a peak investment. Better buy cheap and grow it, if you have the money.

We fans can curse and rant all we want, reality is any sane person will know investing in an almost peak company will not give more returns. So before calling for FSGout, I wonder who can replace them.

In regards to decent backup, what are you looking at? To get a decent backup at decent price, we need a good scouting department. I believe Shaqiri was signed as a decent backup. Correct me if I'm wrong. And he left.

Yes FSG is stingy as shit, but as least we're challenging for some honours.

This post has been edited by beebee1314: Nov 23 2021, 02:16 PM

Haha I get your point. But Ruben Dias earns 160k. Konate 80k
Mahrez 120k, Minamino around 80k.

So ya, unless we pay in excess of 100k, who's gonna sit on your bench. As for Kepa, don't mention. He's the world most expensive goalkeeper.

In the end, no money no talk. FSG - Firmly Stingy Group.
But at least they weren't stingy with Klopp, who reportedly earns 15mil pounds gross a year.

This post has been edited by beebee1314: Nov 23 2021, 03:21 PM

That's why. For those asking FSGout, remember FSG is paying Klopp 300k a week gross. Our coach is 2nd highest earner in the EPL. Take pride in it. Arteta is only on 100k a week.

Spending money is useless if you don't have a top coach to play them to their top quality. Salah was mediocre in Chelsea, very good in Roma but exploded with us. Oxlade was an unwanted mediocre in Arsenal, but with us, he's so much better. Yet ppl is asking more from Oxlade. Remember we once had Paul Konchesky with us. And we paid 4mil pounds for him. And we paid Robertson for 8mil. I remember many was questioning signing an 8mil player from Hull City. Look where has Robertson brought us.

So yes, FSG is stingy. But being stingy, they still bring all the correct players, well most of them. And while many question FSG being stingy, we're paying Klopp 300k, which Arteta only cost 100k. FSG could have saved the 200k to pay another top player. But would you take Arteta with another 200k salary player or pay 300k lump sum on Klopp?

And to the bugger being proud of his 2008 joining Lowyat as a member, lol there's nothing to be proud of, Mr.Foreveralone. Liverpool has always work on a budget, to sign the correct players, not just any players. Would you want a decent Lovren, sign for the sake of backup, only to leak goals? Or a decent Shaqiri, only to leave due to playing time. Wonder why everyone is calling for Oxlade to be chop. He's still a decent backup, could have played for any first 11 in many EPL clubs. If your decent means Mahrez, Ruben Dias, or even Pulisic, sorry to say, I've hardly seen Liverpool signing a decent backup for 100k or even high salary, sitting on the bench, in my 22 yrs of being a supporter. I won't call FSGout for sure, afterall they signed Klopp, who gave us 2 biggest prizes that many clubs can only dream of.

Even if you call FSGout, who can now buy Liverpool with a commercial value of more than 1 billion now. All that bugger knows is FSGout. That's why he's just a loner sitting in lowyat forum since 2008. Joker really. Be a keyboard warrior, yet talks from his butt hole. Even keyboard warrior has a value. He, has only butt hole value.

This post has been edited by beebee1314: Nov 23 2021, 10:16 PM