ok, i got timing issues i want to learn them. any ideas?

i also have timing problem..I thot it's all abt practice o.O got place t oteach timing de meh?

maybe the metronome helps?

use a metronome ? lol

start off slow then build up. . .

in timing issues i take you have problems working out timing outside 4 4?

i have timing issues too. only way i can get them right is listen to the song i'm practicing enough so that the song is stuck in my head so i kinda like hear it in my head before i play it?
i dont really get playing with a metronome, cant seem to get it right and makes me think too much

just feel the rhythm and play it. Remember to relax as well.

uhh buy a watch?
sack your drummer?
buy your drummer a metronome?
get a good drummer?
buy a metronome?

Err... that's the most effective way to go about it, especially with funk riffs/licks. I usually take the speed down by half or more, and nail the timing before gradually (Increments of +-4bpm) moving up to full speed. Not much thinking involved, is there?

Plus, when you get to full speed eventually, you will feel a lot more confident with the rhythm.

well a metronome is useless if you dont "lock in" with it. I personally prefer a drum computer because it gives me more feel and allows me to get in to the rhythm quicker. But i'm just lousy

Here's what i usually do ( if and when i practice ):

When you start playing along with a metronome you have to adjust yourself quite often making you think. But as you go on you should become more comfortable and stop thinking and then slowly you add the dynamics in, expression, groove, etc. After you are totally comfortable with it and making music instead of thinking hard to play in time, then stop and start all over again with the same bpm. I only work with one bpm count (120 for me) while working on rudiments. I only go faster if i'm in one of those "let's see how fast i can really go" moods. Although i don't practice on the high bpms, my fastest achievable bpm count has been increasing so far. Don't ask me why, but practicing rudiments in the same bpm count works for me.

as in i can't divide the beats and stuff like that i think :S

I use a metronome for anything I do...except when Im actually playing songs. It helped me.

Yup just do it....

But i think its natural? it can be trained?

i cant play a song with the metronome on, confuses me because i think about it too much =/
but when practicing runs i play with the metronome of course

metronome is for practice only. In songs/band/etc the drummer is the metronome. Stick with him and don'T bother about anything else.

use ur foot to tap the beats...while playing...

Speaking from my perspective...

In a studio/live situation (and when your drum is in a bad place) it takes a lot of concentration to hear for the music.
This could be partially due to phase cancellation and excess bass build-up in the corners or areas close to the wall.
In such situation you gotta use your feel and draw upon your (hopefully) vast pool of experience.

So... it's equal amounts of practise (as mentioned by so many people above) and experience in not-so-optimal situations.

Get a metronome. Or if you are on a higher budget, get a drum machine.

Just buy urself a whole bunch of latin fusion CDs. After you can play along to them, any other form of music is a piece of cake

im not looking at song playing timing, that i think a metronome should work. but what i want to know is like how to phrase my notes in a 4/4, like how am i to fit a 1/8 inside a 4.4 at 80 bpm? my stuff comes up either exceeding the bar or an incomplete bar

LOL whole topic went out-of-subject.