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> michealelsie dont want refund to me, 22 sticks kingston ramX RM110

Xromix
post Aug 4 2007, 12:08 PM

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Hey all,

Just wanna say that I don't think michealelsie is a conman/woman cause I've dealt with pre-orders with him/her before. Stuffs might come a lil later than expected date but they did come lol tongue.gif Dealt twice and got my items twice, even though it took some time. smile.gif
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post Aug 4 2007, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(alfa99 @ Aug 4 2007, 12:47 PM)
Don't be so sure.

Before poweredge@shahrilwan ran away with rm80K, everyone also do not think he is a conman.
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Notice that I mentioned "I don't think". Didn't say "I am sure". smile.gif

Chill la, he doesn't seem like he's running away.
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post Aug 4 2007, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(alfa99 @ Aug 4 2007, 01:01 PM)
If u mentioned "don't think" that's mean he has the chances to run away.

Because you are not sure.  whistling.gif
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Once again, I mentioned that "he doesn't seem like he's running away".

Of course, I never said I was sure in the beginning. I don't think its wrong to give him the benefit of doubt. smile.gif
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post Aug 4 2007, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(alfa99 @ Aug 4 2007, 01:10 PM)
If you are not sure, save your energy, no need to spam here.  yawn.gif
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You make it sound like it is wrong to give people the benefit of doubt, to trust someone. How can anyone be so sure? All I was trying to do is point out that he/she did manage some bulk pre-orders before, and all of us got our orders, even though they weren't on time. I don't see you helping by trying to equate him to a well-known conman.

Chill la! sweat.gif
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post Aug 4 2007, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(alfa99 @ Aug 4 2007, 01:43 PM)
This is not the concept benefit of doubt. Benefit of doubt means A favorable judgment granted in the absence of full evidence.

Successful of trades just to give more confidence for new buyers and doesn't mean

a seller is still 100% reliable.  whistling.gif
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doh.gif You're still not getting the point. What I'm trying to say that there were delay in the bulks pre-orders he/she conducted, but in the end we still received the items. It might happen that way again, it might not. Though its highly possible that he/she is not a conman. I don't know why you're so keen to prove me wrong. sweat.gif

Edit: I don't see why this is not a case of giving him the benefit of doubt. Is there FULL evidence that he is a conman? He is still here and he is still replying, he even offered to show the statement of him money transfer. If you really insist on using dictionaries, then

"to believe something good about someone, rather than something bad, when you have the possibility of doing either." taken from http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/give+t...it+of+the+doubt. sweat.gif

I rest my case.

This post has been edited by Xromix: Aug 4 2007, 02:45 PM
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post Aug 4 2007, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(alfa99 @ Aug 4 2007, 01:56 PM)
Same to you, you also didn't catch what i am trying to mention. And please understand what is benefit of doubt before using it.

He/she is a conman is not determine by you or me. Because TS is still waiting for the rams to arrive. Even seller can't confirm

how long the delay, so does it means need to wait forever? at least provide a dateline and not TS asked for it.  whistling.gif
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Read my edited post about the usage of "benefit of doubt". smile.gif

TS is waiting for the rams to arrive. Seller is still here and posting, hasn't run away. Conman is someone who runs away with the money, if I'm not mistaken. TS already gave seller a dateline. What is it that you're arguing about? I can't even post a casual feedback on the seller without getting flamed rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 4 2007, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(alfa99 @ Aug 4 2007, 02:09 PM)
TS acutally requested a fully refund because seller can't promise the actual arrival date of the rams.

Did i say seller is a conman? Which sentence? Read again lar.

I just provided some examples doesn't mean i accuse seller is a conman.

I would like to mention again, a lot of trade successfully cases doesn't mean 100% reliable.  whistling.gif

Because seller refused to refund and forced TS to have a dateline.  Reason given was $$ already gave to supplier,

i don't think is a supplier, maybe just another dealer.
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Did I even say that you accused the seller a conman? sweat.gif

If you considered yourself providing examples, then I have to say the same thing goes for me. I merely provided a positive feedback on the seller with the intention of giving some assurance to the TS that the seller is not a conman, and gave seller the benefit of doubt (I'm pretty sure my usage on this term is right tongue.gif)

I never mentioned that the seller is reliable did I? tongue.gif I said that it was off the expected time. But we STILL received our items.

Whether its a supplier or just another dealer, that is none of our concern. The main concern here is that TS receives his item by the dateline or else gets refunded. And whether the seller refunds or not is out of our hands.

We better stop our 'bickering', before we face the wrath of the mods. sweat.gif I apologize if I offended you in any way. smile.gif



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