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> michealelsie dont want refund to me, 22 sticks kingston ramX RM110

zhen^wei
post Aug 3 2007, 09:47 AM, updated 19y ago

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RM110X22 +RM10(courier)=RM2430

before i pay him, he said ETA 7-14 days.
nvm, i can wait.
then from day to day, he said his supplier also can't make sure can get the stock.
then i ask for refund. easy. no stock then why still keep the buyer money.

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since he dotn want settle in pm. and even i sms him/pm him many times he also no replies before this.
so i have to bring the case to dispute center.

so is it reasonable i get the refund ?

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post Aug 3 2007, 10:00 AM

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mayb he need sometime to talk to his supplier to get the refund? sometime susah la the seller act on behalf of the supplier..somemore seller shouldnt ignore ur buyer's sms/pm...this will only make the buyer frustrating and piss ...as u know if we order sth from u and we cant get it on time..sure he or she will find u rite? jus giv explaination to the buyer instead of avoid calls/pms/sms...now u c all these happens u only reply =.="
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post Aug 3 2007, 10:13 AM

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How about ask him the deadline when the stock can come to u or else full refund??
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post Aug 3 2007, 10:16 AM

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if i give him the deadline until 1 more month. can make sure he can get the stock for me ? wat kind of bulk order is it..
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post Aug 3 2007, 10:23 AM

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yeah..u should ask for the refund...its ur money dude..u order the things..the thing cant make on time..u should ask for ur refund..when the ram is available again,u can bank in later..
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post Aug 3 2007, 11:04 AM

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i smell another con job in the making. keep asking him for ur refund coz if he can't deliver the goods, that's his only option. u dun have to give a shit what happens between him and his supplier. the deal was made between u and him, not his supplier.i believe there's a very big chance he's still holding on to ur money and spending it.
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post Aug 3 2007, 11:05 AM

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So..... he blindly gave money to his supplier without getting the stock?

Don't this work the other way around, supplier usually will give out the stock and wait for payment end of the month? Why is he paying money for then? Promises?
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post Aug 3 2007, 11:12 AM

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yeah, try to wait for another month !
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post Aug 3 2007, 11:18 AM

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Wht a reason he gave. Supplier not take money 1st. Dealer is the one that get the money 1st. Only then, stuff will reach buyer. Really hoping nothing bad happen. 2xxx is a very big amount. Some body working for 4-5 months only can saving that amount money itupun kalau ikat perut. cry.gif cry.gif
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post Aug 3 2007, 12:01 PM

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he is mmu student.
if he not yet refund to me until next fridya, i will going back to melaka.
and report police, straight away go to MMU complaint.
i think he will lost his study also
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post Aug 3 2007, 01:11 PM

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another RAM story...haiya~ doh.gif
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post Aug 3 2007, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Aug 3 2007, 12:01 PM)
he is mmu student.
if he not yet refund to me until next fridya, i will going back to melaka.
and report police, straight away go to MMU complaint.
i think he will lost his study also
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confirm yes,he will expell from the u ,but at least give him 1 week to settle this case ,as he told u that he is just part time ,u may give him some time to setle this problem
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post Aug 3 2007, 02:28 PM

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if no ready stock, pls dont ask buyer bank in!!!
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post Aug 3 2007, 02:33 PM

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Hi all, michealelsie here. I am the one who placed order for his RAM.

Yes, he had paid the full amount of money because my supplier there got T&C said that FULL UPFRONT PAYMENT REQUIRED in order to place the order.

The order has been placed and PO has been sent on 14 July 2007. 11pm

The ETA start counted at the second day which is 15 July 2007 as ETA counted according the working hours and days. (my supplier set this T&C)

So the ETA of 14 days which set by my supplier already reached yesterday 2 August 2007)

However, the RAM stocks still not yet arrive my place on time.

The problem is, NOT I don't want to give the stocks to you. But my supplier there not yet ready the stocks for me.

Not only me don't have the stocks now, all the dealers under my supplier also can't get the stocks. The shortage of RAM stocks also not my supplier fault. It is due to the main distributor problem.

As you all know currently the RAM price hiking, many distributor control the stocks distribution and also the price. It makes the stocks in the market limited.

If my supplier and me really got the stocks on hand now, no point I want hold it then spoilt our reputation , am I right. As a dealers or a supplier also know this I think.

Moreover, you want me to direct refund to you, It is also impossible as I am still a student. I don't have such large capital. Besides, you said I do so many business still not money to refund to you? Do you think that I can earn a lot on my sales item? I sell Hard disk, DVD burner, thumbdrive (tempo stopped), and others not so active thread. How I have so many money to direct refund to you.

Please always remember, I won't be so stupid to not supplier you the stocks and spoilt my reputation. It is the main distributor really controlling the price and quantities of the stocks and makes my supplier hard to get the stocks in short time.

Hope you all here can understand my situation.

I am a dealer and trader here in LYN. and I will not be so stupid to spoil my own reputation.


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post Aug 3 2007, 02:34 PM

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then from day to day, he said his supplier also can't make sure can get the stock.

This is the main problem.. If the seller knows the supplier cant get the stock or no immediate stock. Dont ask buyer to bank in the money, now see many problems occured.

Supplier no stock also wait supplier restock then ask buyer to bank in. Not say directly bank in to him then ask supplier order the stock, the stock when reach also dont know. Later supplier con the seller more worse..
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post Aug 3 2007, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(deathbringer @ Aug 3 2007, 11:04 AM)
i smell another con job in the making. keep asking him for ur refund coz if he can't deliver the goods, that's his only option. u dun have to give a shit what happens between him and his supplier. the deal was made between u and him, not his supplier.i believe there's a very big chance he's still holding on to ur money and spending it.
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If you don't know anything happen regarding the shortage of RAM stocks which happen recently, please keep quiet.

thank you.
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post Aug 3 2007, 02:42 PM

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to the seller :
the market price of ram always not stable..sometimes up sometimes down, u can promise that when u have stock,the price still will same with the price now? and if....i say if when u have stock, maybe the market price lower than the price of the buyer bought from you, so ....??
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post Aug 3 2007, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Aug 3 2007, 02:34 PM)
then from day to day, he said his supplier also can't make sure can get the stock.

This is the main problem.. If the seller knows the supplier cant get the stock or no immediate stock. Dont ask buyer to bank in the money, now see many problems occured.

Supplier no stock also wait supplier restock then ask buyer to bank in. Not say directly bank in to him then ask supplier order the stock, the stock when reach also dont know. Later supplier con the seller more worse..
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If you are not under the same supplier as me, then I cant blame you.

Each supplier got their own T&C. sometimes, supplier need full payment to order the stocks.

Besides, for those stocks like RAMs, that the price keep changing each week, if u were the supplier, will be buy few carton of stocks and keep it?

Keeping this kind of stocks are very risky because you don't know when their value will be drop or increase.
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post Aug 3 2007, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(chuinhooi @ Aug 3 2007, 02:42 PM)
to the seller :
the market price of ram always not stable..sometimes up sometimes down, u can promise that when u have stock,the price still will same with the price now? and if....i say if when u have stock, maybe the market price lower than the price of the buyer bought from you, so ....??
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If you know the price I gave him then I think you will probably know the price currently in the market surely wont lower than my price.

thank you.
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post Aug 3 2007, 02:48 PM

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So because you offer lower price, you have the right to hold on to a customer's money for a longer period?

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