Ive already read about ORI vs AP

but the thing is that for the firmware update, why is the AP cant update? (Base on previous post).

Since the main diffrent between ORI and AP most probably the hardware of AP being changed by AP company to make extra profit.

And so, the software also got affected?

By the hardware, i mean for example the battery, most probably certain AP company will change the ori battery with fake one.

So the firmware that currently you using are for asia region?

Yeah i got mine with fake battery anyway i wont defect the hardware ba? Same use with original battery rite? As long they didnt change my hardware component thats the important thing...

can i know how much is the price now? ap n ori. thanks!

KTCY,
I doubt so, because before I changed to 3G simcard, that doesnt appear

davidmak,
thanks for the explanation for the firmware update

my friend got that icon but mine is a phone icon with a number1

ermmm.. a normal simcard can use the 3g already (maxis leh, celcom i dunno) mine`s the normal 64k simcard already can use 3g

yup.
should use wif earphones.

quality is still ok if u hold still ur fon.
back camera quality is a bit better...

The SIM and USIM card are meant to be backward and forward compatible. As long as the telco side has activated your account to use 3G services, any SIM card will work.

The only difference with the USIM card is UMTS authentication and encryption.
I agree that the frame rate of the video call (hence, how smooth is the video) is dependent on the network strength. At higher network strength, the effective data rate will be higher as well. Clarity however also depends on the network because your image have to be transported to the other side of the call, going through the network. A higher effective data rate will of course guarantee the minimal loss in data.

Assuming that we have the full theoretical data rate, of course phone lens (though I think its minimal) will at some point improve images. The secondary camera at the front of the phone is the usual 330K (up to 640x480) CMOS sensor running at maybe 15fps or lower depending on signal quality. Meaning at each second, the sensor will feed 15x (or lower) 330K images to the phone's transceiver.

On the other hand, the primary camera at the backside of the phone is a Cybershot compliant 3.2MP camera. Thats a 2048x1536 resolution thats maybe 200-300kB of data per frame. At 15fps it'll be enormous. So I doubt thats the case. If the 3.2MP camera is usable for 3G Video Call (I haven't tried this before), its actually sampling images at a smaller resolution, near 330K. There's no special lens here in the K800/810, but I doubt Carl Zeiss lens would do any difference on a phone. One point to note although at IMAGING MODE the K800/810 is able to take pictures at 3.2MP, in VIDEO MODE going through the same lens and same sensor its only outputting video at 320x240@15fps which is way smaller than 3.2MP.

So my point is, do not expect 3.2MP performance and hence a better video call from the backside camera.

slide the camera lens, press on shutter until focus, then snap lo
uhm, for night mode, I simply cannot take nice picture with Twilight Landscape mode also, hand keep shaking

ya i using DiGi...... lol......if there a difference?

k810i still no firmware upgrade? k800's latest firmware comes with an extra game!

the new k800i game is FotoQuest fishing

thx bro 4 the info...cos some time jus have to watch the clock like security guard....have to monitor the charging time or like take care of baby....watch the time to feed the milk...

lol chill la mate

u talk like u r a babysitter to your phone

it is just a phone, afterall