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 Wut? Professional Engineer earning RM1.8k?, 🤔

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TSKittibong
post Jun 14 2020, 10:38 AM, updated 6y ago

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YOU TAK SUKA,YOU BOLEH BERHENTI KERJA!
Al-kisah, aku telah ditawarkan bekerja di sebuah syarikat tempatan yang aku namakan Company X.
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Dengan gaji RM1,800, aku diberi jawatan sebagai Project Engineer. Memang clear scope kerja yang dalam offer letter masa mula2 aku masuk bekerja dengan Company X.
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Namun, selepas hampir setahun aku bekerja. Work scope aku semakin bertambah. Aku lah yg kena jaga engineering, aku lah kena buat PO. Aku lah yang kena check stock kat warehouse. Aku lah yang kena bagi training ke staff baru. Sampaikan tandas kat site tersumbat pun aku yang kena call service provider untuk setel masalah tersumbat tu.
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Balik on-time? Jangan cerita lah..tak pernah dapat..manjang balik kol 10 malam je😣😣.
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Walaupun aku masih muda time tu, kalau dah hari2 balik pukul 10malam. Badan yang kuat pun boleh jadi lembik. Lama2, aku dah tak tahan. Aku pun email ke HR.

Email #1
To: HR Manager
Cc: Managing Director
Dear HR Manager,
This email is to request a discussion on my current compensation package.
I feel my current job scope was not as per my employment contract. I have been overloaded by unnecessary job scope that not as per my original employment contract.
Looking forward to have your positive reply.
Regards,
Rahman

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Ku sangkakan HR Manager yang akan reply. Tapi yang reply email ku adalah Managing Director.
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Email #2
//Quoted//
To: Rahman
Cc: HR Manager
Dear Rahman,
Thanks for your email. Starting next month, your new salary will be revised to RM2,000.
Regards,
Managing Director
//Unquoted//
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What?? Naik RM200 je! Sedangkan workload aku sekarang perlukan aku kerja lebih masa 4jam sehari @ 50% lebih daripada 8jam masa yang wajib aku bekerja. Paling2 pun naik lah 50% (RM900). Herm, aku reply email MD aku.
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Email #3
//Quoted//
To: Managing Director
Cc: HR Manager
Dear Boss,
I do appreciate your effort for the increment provided. However, it still not sufficient with the workload I have right now. I highly appreciate if you can consider RM900 increment due to I’m working 4 hours extra everyday.
Regards,
Rahman
//Unquoted//
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TETAPI, Ini email yang aku dapat dari Boss aku.
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Email #4
//Quoted//
To: Rahman
Cc: HR Manager
Hello Rahman,
You shall be grateful we had given you the increment. If you can’t accept our offer, please consider submitting your resignation notice.
There is a lot candidates outside there who are willing to accept RM2,000 salary doing same work scope you did right now.
Regards,
Managing Director
//Unquoted//
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YA ALLAH, SOMBONG NYA BOSS AKU NI.
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Amarah aku dah sampai maximum😡😡. Sebab aku memang pantang jika majikan tidak menghargai pekerja. Aku terus reply email Boss aku tanpa berfikir panjang.
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Email #5
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To: Managing Director
Cc: HR Manager
Dear Boss,
I couldn’t deny there are lot of candidates outside there who are desperately looking for a job. However, please consider the hiring timeline below:
Day 1- Requirement generated by Department
Day 2- HR publish the same and invite application.
Day 3- You will receive 1,000 application dump in system / email daily.
Day 4-10: Application keep on coming in.
Day 11-20- Screening of application by HR.
Day 21-30- Shortlisting of candidate for initial discussion.
Day 31-35 – Further shortlisting and schedule face to face interview for shortlisted candidate.
Day 36-40- Interview session with potential candidate.
Day 41-45 – Final shortlisting on interviewed candidate.
Day 46-55- HR Negotiations.
Day 56-60 – Offer letter roll out to candidate.
Day 61-120 – Awaiting new candidate to be on board (due to notice period 2 months average in Malaysia).
Day 120 – New candidate will join the company.
Company need to wait 4 months to get new replacement. Is it company have plan how this 4 months workload can be covered if I planning to give 24hours resignation notice?
Regards,
Rahman
//Unquoted//
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Email #6
Suprisingly, HR Manager reply email aku.
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To: Managing Director
Cc: Rahman
Dear Boss,
I’m concur with hiring timeline provided by Rahman.
It will impact our operation if Rahman plan to tender within 24 hours. We cannot afford to have this impact due to our manpower loading already at maximum.
We need to have discussion on new compensation package for Rahman.
Regards,
HR Manager
//Unquoted//
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Selepas daripada email aku di atas, gaji aku dinaikkan ke RM2,600 daripada gaji asalku RM1,800 (tak dapat full RM900 macam yang aku demand. Kena slash jugak RM100.hahaha). Nevertheless, yang penting ada kenaikan😊.
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After that email jugak, Boss aku tone down skit dengan aku and ada sense of respect (maybe hiring timeline aku tu memberi kesan mendalam kepada dia).
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But tak lama lepas tu, aku tender resignation jugak untuk rezeki yang lebih baik.
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Kepada majikan diluar sana, jangan lah anda sombong sangat. Kadang2 cara UGUTAN kepada pekerja tidak memberi apa2 faedah. Malah, ia lebih merugikan. Lebih baik berbincang secara baik daripada memberi ugutan.
So, guys. Moga bermanfaat
https://lobakmerah.com/gaji-rm1-8k-dan-pula...-melalui-email/
amxpayne67
post Jun 14 2020, 10:40 AM

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fresh grad, just out of uni, maybe 1.8k nego a bit le. still need experience. during my time fresh grad 1.5k only
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:40 AM

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Got increment then tender? Boss no ask for contract? LOLLLLLLLLL
TSKittibong
post Jun 14 2020, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ Jun 14 2020, 10:40 AM)
fresh grad, just out of uni, maybe 1.8k nego a bit le. still need experience. during my time fresh grad 1.5k only
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During my time...hehehe
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:41 AM

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kesian ts lambat faham.
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:43 AM

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professional engineer is not just an engineer...........

Professional Engineer is a legal term, which is granted to a person granted such title by Board of Engineers of Malaysia or equivalent. Those definitely celery RM10k min per month.....

Someone with a degree in engineering merely can call themselves an engineer by law, but not professional engineer, so long as they are not chartered.
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ Jun 14 2020, 10:40 AM)
fresh grad, just out of uni, maybe 1.8k nego a bit le. still need experience. during my time fresh grad 1.5k only
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Im spm starting salary 1700. And that year 2012

Wtff degree salary 1.5k.. 1.7k.. that really low
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ Jun 14 2020, 10:40 AM)
fresh grad, just out of uni, maybe 1.8k nego a bit le. still need experience. during my time fresh grad 1.5k only
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unker that was what year
TSKittibong
post Jun 14 2020, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Jun 14 2020, 10:43 AM)
professional engineer is not just an engineer...........

Professional Engineer is a legal term, which is granted to a person granted such title by Board of Engineers of Malaysia or equivalent. Those definitely celery RM10k min per month.....

Someone with a degree in engineering merely can call themselves an engineer by law, but not professional engineer, so long as they are not chartered.
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But his title is IR Abdul Rahman. IIRC you can't simply call yourself IR without the title being granted by BEM.
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:44 AM

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If he is a registered Engineer with Board of Engineer, then he can bear the title of Ir.

It is sad to learn that the service of a professional engineer is not valued by the company nowadays.
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:44 AM

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Lol 1.8k
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(butterkijen @ Jun 14 2020, 10:43 AM)
unker that was what year
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2008

at that time unker dont know got butter jiken
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ Jun 14 2020, 10:40 AM)
fresh grad, just out of uni, maybe 1.8k nego a bit le. still need experience. during my time fresh grad 1.5k only
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Mid 2000s.. my starting pay rm1500 lol... but not in KL la...
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Wolger @ Jun 14 2020, 10:46 AM)
Mid 2000s.. my starting pay rm1500 lol... but not in KL la...
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pretty much depends on the industry, and your major of engineering.
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QUOTE(Ic3dMil0 @ Jun 14 2020, 10:44 AM)
If he is a registered Engineer with Board of Engineer, then he can bear the title of Ir.

It is sad to learn that the service of a professional engineer is not valued by the company nowadays.
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QUOTE(Kittibong @ Jun 14 2020, 10:44 AM)
But his title is IR Abdul Rahman. IIRC you can't simply call yourself IR without the title being granted by BEM.
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impossible for Ir to be fresh grad.....
minimum need 3-5 year experience before you can even attempt to register, let alone pass BEM exam/interview
ini either cerita lama bring back or this guy is an idiot abusing the Ir. title like those fesbuk health gurus abusing the Dr. title


if not fresh grad, celery still 1.8k, something really really wrong with this person

This post has been edited by EBBattlefield: Jun 14 2020, 10:49 AM
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ Jun 14 2020, 10:44 AM)
2008

at that time unker dont know got butter jiken
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unker these days 1.8k want to eat butter jiken also hard
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:52 AM

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employee: boss, if i resign, u can do my job ka?
boss: well, mofo, not me, but ur friends will

This post has been edited by WinkyJr: Jun 14 2020, 10:52 AM
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(butterkijen @ Jun 14 2020, 10:51 AM)
unker these days 1.8k want to eat butter jiken also hard
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unker once think that the industry really underappreciated the engineering grad. but nowadays some fresh grads just wanna comfy office job with starting salary around 4k-5k and drive civic ketam. not that it is impossible but unker like, damn....
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:54 AM

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fresh grad seleri memang like that.
even in consulting firm also


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post Jun 14 2020, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Jun 14 2020, 10:54 AM)
fresh grad seleri memang like that.
even in consulting firm also
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Eh.... I recommended boss paid the fish grad salary 4k.

Is that high?

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