https://www.hotlink.com.my/en/terms-conditi...paid-unlimited/
Unlimited Internet Passes in Hotlink Prepaid Unlimited

We reserve the rights at any time without being liable to you or any third party to interrupt, bar, suspend, restrict the Plan and Service(s) for such time as we see fit or terminate, discontinue or disconnect the Plan and Service(s) if your usage:

a. shows excessive usage or placing unusual burdens on the network;
b. is for unlawful activities or for suspected fraudulent activities;
c. is not in accordance with the Maxis Fair Usage Policy (at www.hotlink.com.my/FUP)
d. is for commercial/non-personal purposes.

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So, video-streaming at 1080p/FHD can overheat smartphones after 60 seconds = likely by over-working the fanless smartphones.

Visually, we don't need video quality of > 480p/SD on our smallish 6" screen smartphone = won't overheat the smartphone. Only for larger laptops(= got internal fans), desktop monitors and TVs, do we need, eg well-ventilated(= no overheat problem) 75" TVs require 4k/2160p/UHD.

Some people on Telco Talk stated that they could not accept any video quality < 720p/HD when video-streaming on their smartphones. Their overheated and overworked smartphones likely did not last long.
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Seems Maxis's AI monitor software detects non-stop d/l of files >5GB (= about 2 hours) as breaking its daily data FUP = abuser is throttled, ie not throttled if do intermittent d/l of files that total >5GB daily. For HUP35/45, is such an abuser throttled for the rest of the 30-days or just for 1 day.? Any idea on the throttled speed.? 128kbps or 64kbps.?

Wonder what is its monthly FUP.? 50GB or 100GB.?
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https://www.androidauthority.com/how-much-d...ube-use-964560/ - How much data does YouTube actually use? - June 30, 2019

Streaming a Youtube video at 720p for 1 hour already uses about 2GB of data. For some people who stream a few TV shows daily on their smartphones and can't live without video quality of at least 720p, 50GB per month is not enough.

Personally, video-streaming at 480p is good enough for me = my monthly data use is still about 60GB, ie >50GB.
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TM Unifi Mobile 4G gives truly unlimited data and hotspot to its prepaid Bebas Daily and Bebas Weekly(= RM20) passes at 8Mbps cap, and to its Unifi Air 4G modem plan at around 20Mbps(= costs RM79 per month), ie there is no FUP limit, same like TM Unifi Fiber plans.
....... Why Maxis cannot give truly unlimited data and hotspot to its Hotlink Unlimited Prepaid RM35/RM45 monthly passes, daily and weekly passes.? = because Maxis and other celcos have to pay wholesale prices to the monopoly TM HSBB Fiber for backhaul connections to the world wide web/www for their 4G Internet data phone plans. TM Unifi Mobile no need to pay TM HSBB Fiber. Hence non-TM celcos have to limit the amount of 4G Internet data being used by their customers accordingly, ie less limits for their high-end/premium 4G phone plans.

I think the 50GB per month FUP limit for Maxis HUP35/45 is a bit low. It should be at least 80GB per month, especially for HUP45. Interested parties should complain about this to Maxis.
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PS - Digi Infinite 150 gives 1TB of data as its FUP limit = Digi pays TM HSBB Fiber about RM130 for 1TB of 4G Internet data = Maxis pays TM HSBB Fiber about RM13 for 100GB of 4G Internet data.(.?)

PPS - Maxis makes >RM1 billion after tax profit yearly = can afford to give more 4G Internet data to its customers. .......
https://www.nst.com.my/business/2020/02/567...-q4-rises-33pct
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Prepaid "unlimited" data GX12 weekly(= RM48 per month) also has unlimited calls to all networks. .......

https://www.u.com.my/plans/prepaid/gilerunlimited#gx38
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Celcom just offered a new prepaid "unlimited" data Internet monthly pass to its current subscribers. .......


https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4304372/+3320 - post #3322

Will both HUP35 and GX30 be erased from your memory.?
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Why do you have extra -RM217 in your postpaid UMobile GX68 account.? That's about 4 months of advance payment to UMobile. If you cancel GX68 now, it may take some weeks to get back your money from UMobile.
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https://www.celcom.com.my/legal/terms-and-c...-internet-plans
''''''' f. Once the Customer has fully utilized the Additional Internet Quota purchased, the Customer’s data usage shall be throttled to the speed of 64KBps.

h. Peer-to-peer (P2P) is throttled up to 64kbps. '''''''

XUP35 is likely throttled to 64kBps = about 0.5Mbps also.
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https://www.soyacincau.com/2020/06/09/celco...s-prepaid-rm35/ - Celcom offers unlimited data and calls on Xpax Prepaid for RM35/month - By Alexander Wong 12:43 pm, 9 June 2020
''''''' Note: Celcom has confirmed to us that its Xpax Unlimited Pass has no hard quota limit. But with the FUP in place, they will have the right to manage its bandwidth if there’s abuse. '''''''

Will you be testing out the hidden agenda of CUP35/XUP35's FUP limit.? It could be from 30GB to 150GB per month.
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0.5Mbps = 62.5kBps = 512kbps. .......

https://www.gbmb.org/mbps-to-kbs
https://www.gbmb.org/mbps-to-kbps
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In the selling of services or products to consumers, there is the "reasonable or fair" consideration for the service or product. In this day and age, using Internet data at 512kbps or 0.5Mbps d/l speed cannot reasonably or fairly be considered as unlimited data. 20 years ago, can la, eg when there was only TM Streamyx fixed copper Internet and no HD video quality, eg unlimited data 384kbps home plans at RM69 per month using CRT monitors.

It is cheating if a business sells a bottle of ordinary tap water to a willing amnesiac rich old person or gullible rich child for RM100, if such a case is taken to court.
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https://www.malaysianwireless.com/2020/06/m...internet-plans/ -
Maxis Lied about the Hotlink Unlimited Internet Plans? -Commentary - 07/06/2020.
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Truly Unlimited Internet.?

https://says.com/my/lifestyle/malaysian-consumer-rights
''''''' Section 10 of the Malaysian Consumer Protection Act 1999 states that it is lawfully wrong to make a false or misleading representation of the goods or services that a person or business organisation sells.

This includes the standard, quality, grade, quantity, grade, quantity and composition of the product or service. ...


1. For products or services that are misleading or falsely represented

Part II of the Consumer Protection 1999 refers to Misleading And Deceptive Conduct, False Representation and Unfair Practice by sellers or business owners. ...

To put it simply, the section talks about any form of advertisement, sales promises that do not hold its end of the bargain. An example can perhaps be a fruit seller that has boards of adverts saying that he sells the freshest produce that is guaranteed to be in good condition but you realise that most of it is rotten after you buy it.

The seller has managed to mislead you into believing that his fruits are in good condition when in truth it isn't. It could either be an honest mistake or one that was done committed knowingly. Business owners who mislead can be fined up to RM250,000.

When faced with situations like this, you can usually speak to the seller and ask for a replacement, but if he or she refuses to comply, then you can drop an email and follow through with TTPM. ...
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In Malaysia, TM Unifi Fiber, Unifi Lite(= Copper) and Unifi Air 4G modem plans are truly unlimited Internet data plans, not Maxis's new HUP35/45 4G phone plans, which are similar to UMobile's "unlimited" mobile internet data prepaid GX30/GX38 4G phone plans.
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TM Unifi Air 4G modem plan is also a truly unlimited Internet data plan.
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I believe TM Unifi Mobile prepaid Bebas Weekly RM20 (= RM86 per month) is also truly unlimited Internet . Last year, TM Unifi Mobile had promo for Bebas Weekly RM10 for about 2 months only.

We are debating about the definition of "Truly Unlimited Internet", not about the price of Internet plans. Our Internet connection to the world wide web/www can come from fixed Fiber/Copper cable lines, mobile/wireless 4G, mobile/wireless Satellite, TNB electrical wires, etc.
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Maxis's new HUP35/45 phone plans got attention only because it is well-known to focus only on the premium/high-end market - same if Apple suddenly sells iPhones for around US$200 each = the low-end market dominated by Android. Why is Maxis suddenly dropping from its high horses to come down to the affordable low-end market.? Not making enough profits.?

Still, Maxis's new "Truly Unlimited Internet" HUP35/45 phone plans with no hotspot quota and with an FUP limit of 50GB per month are no match to UMobile's postpaid GX50 phone plan with 5GB hotspot quota and an FUP limit of 100GB per month. Today, UMobile has > 6 million satisfied subscribers, including myself. To each his own.
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Afaik;

All UMobile GX phone plans, including the 3Mbps and 6Mbps ones, presently cap video-streaming to HD/720p/1.6Mbps = can smoothly stream (recorded/non-live) Youtube videos at 720p = can only smoothly livestream-videos at 360p, ie not at 480p or 720p.

Livestreaming requires double the d/l speed of normal video-streaming of recorded/non-live videos.

But if using hotspot data, there is no cap for video-streaming, eg if GX38/6Mbps, can livestream videos at 1080p/FHD.

Only the unlimited Hero P139 phone plan allows up to FHD/1080p/3Mbps video-streaming = can smoothly livestream videos at 720p.
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PS - Subscribing to a paid VPN service can bypass the video-streaming cap.
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So, Maxis, owned by Ananda Krishnan (MIC-linked.?), got seriously financially burnt by investing in 2G/3G/4G mobile services in his homeland of Tamilnadu and India.

Reminds me of how Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew got burnt by investing in his homeland of China. .......

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/01/business...deal-sours.html - Singapore Industrial Park Flounders : A Deal Sours in China - By Michael Richardson, International Herald Tribune - Oct. 1, 1999

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2017/02/28...ndustrial-park/ - Were S’poreans ever told how much we lost in Suzhou Industrial Park? - 28/2/2017
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