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post Jul 23 2020, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(gordon12334545 @ Jul 21 2020, 10:00 PM)
Hi, I am living in a Mid floor Condo, the affected area is the wall near my 2nd toilet. I am facing some issue where paint started to bubble and in certain areas Mold started to grow, at first i thought it was a water leakage, but when I look at the water bills it seems fine( RM 12- 15) per month. When I touch the walls, it seems very powdery even the steel door frame started to rust a bit from below. FYI There is no pipes in the Left wall.

My WC Drain Pipe connection when I flush some water will splash out from above the connection will that be the problem? But it is kinda a far away from the affected area.

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THESE ARE THE AREA AFFECTED
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THIS IS THE WALL IN THE OTHER ROOM ON THE LEFT
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THIS IS THE WALL IN THE STORE ROOM ON THE RIGHT
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THIS IS THE STORE ROOM
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THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL OF THE STORE ROOM THAT I HACKED UNDER THE SINK CABINET
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Water supposing should always flow down, it is unlikely that it is caused by WC Drain pipe. One way to eliminate that is WC issue is stop using this particular toilet for 1 week and see if the problem reduce.
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post Oct 22 2020, 03:05 PM

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Hmm... is this the edge of a wall for the balcony? Based on your knowledge, do you think there is pipe running through that wall? Usually pipe is not laid at so low but it may be possible that water only drips out from there.

Best is to get more information, like this particular wall in from which area, the toilet, balcony, outside? Possible to get the developer to let you know how the water piping is run as it is usually run directly from main to the bathroom. how bad is the leak, constantly or only during rainy days.
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post Dec 30 2020, 11:21 AM

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since you need to renovate the old house anyway, I will suggest to redo the water proofing of the toilet and re-tile it both the floor and the wall. On this side, just wash it and paint sealer primer than repaint the wall.
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post Dec 30 2020, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Dec 30 2020, 11:28 AM)
already paint 2 layers using water proof painting on top the car porch slab. unfortunately, beneath the car porch slab still leakings....2/3 days after raining time. possible water may come from elsewhere??

after new year, i will paint the third layer and hope for miracles. in btw, the waterproof paint brand i used is sikacoat. any comment?
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Maybe you should climb up there and check during the rain, is the water flowing out fast enough... how high the water raise up, did you paint the side of the slabs. My guessing is that this type of leaking is cause by ponding.... and only can been seen few day after heavy downpour.
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post Jan 4 2021, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Jan 3 2021, 03:13 PM)
10 layers is what you need...
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Haha... good one.
But just a note, not necessary more layer of waterproof will work better.
In some scenario, when the layer is too thick. It may bubble and when it pop, waterproof layer will leak.... cool2.gif

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post Jan 5 2021, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Jan 4 2021, 10:12 PM)
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view from another angle - master bedroom window
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Just curious, why you only paint on the area that protrude from the surface, why the area that is sunken is not painted?
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post Jan 6 2021, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Jan 5 2021, 08:05 PM)
drain on car porch slab. but I already paint one layer onto it earlier
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I see... hmm... I guess the next step is what other forumer suggested to do a ponding test.
Maybe try to localized it to the drain area.
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post Jan 11 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(sonicmaster @ Jan 9 2021, 12:59 PM)
Want to ask

If renovate toilet. Redo all. Usually do they cover whole toilet with Waterproof. Or just below part
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It all comes down to cost. You can request to do whole toilet waterproof but it will not be cheap.
Usually just water proof the bottom part, and also 1 tile above the floor should be enough.
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post Apr 13 2021, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(ktfong @ Apr 9 2021, 03:15 PM)
hi, not sure if this is the correct place to ask.

1) im facing leakage of water from the roof of my car porch when i switch on the air-con only, not when raining. How can I solve this?

2) Beside, same car porch, water leaking in between my car porch and awning when raining.

3) water flowing out from the kitchen sink is very very slow. Previously, the plumber said maybe the piping underground got problem hence he used some gas/air to clear the pipe temporary. the condition was solved for few minutes and the issue came back until now. Do I need to rebuild the whole piping?
Can anyone provide me some suggestion? My previous contractor was the worst of all and I have to stop him before burning out my money.
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For number 1, maybe just install a new outflow piping for the aircond. I think there is not economical to check old aircond outflow piping... aircond outflow pipe may also be stuck with jellish substance after long usage years

For number 2, probably the seal between the awning and car porch concrete have give way, remove and reseal it will do

For number 3, have you try the simplest plunger and wire pipe cleaner to try to clear it... these tool can be gotten from Mr.DIY or hardware shop cheaply and at least solve ourself first... it it does not work, you will only then consider repiping
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post Apr 13 2021, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(iconic123 @ Apr 10 2021, 05:06 PM)
I noticed that there was a leak downstairs from my first floor toilet, i have engaged a few contractors to check and fix and the problem is still not solved. There is no one using the toilet since its a guest room, i only go in to wash the toilet and noticed the leakage.

I have tested to determine if its a tile waterproof or internal piping issue by turning on the stopper (after few weeks of non usage / non cleaning), within a day, there will be leak to the bottom ceiling.

One of the contractor claimed there is a crack in the concrete upon inspection from below, another claimed there is a crack in the drainage hole. A couple of them just don't contact me anymore after inspection despite promising a quotation.

One of the contractor tried waterproofing the floor tiles and still leaking. Another contractor suggested pulling new pipes from the ceiling (no hacking of tiles).

Appreciate any thoughts on this matter, if its a truly internal piping issue or other possibility.

House (and toilet) is newly renovated for about three years.
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Just to clarify, you mention "I have tested to determine if its a tile waterproof or internal piping issue by turning on the stopper (after few weeks of non usage / non cleaning), within a day, there will be leak to the bottom ceiling." Just to be specific on the stopper, you are referring to what? My understanding is that if you close the valve for the toilet (whole toilet no water even if you turn on the tap), there is no leakage, but once you turn it back on, even if you do not use the toilet, there is leak?
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post Aug 27 2021, 12:01 PM

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The ceiling image you show it is at the front part... of your house... living area right?.. the first picture roof tiles is the back portion of the roof tiles or front portion?

The gutter session that mini orchard circled, does it correspond to the leaking? Is it located on top of the ceiling?
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post Nov 7 2021, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(samsungfreak @ Nov 5 2021, 11:57 PM)
This is regarding a new house.

The bathrooms have a shower area that has slightly lower floor area and come with shower screen. The floor of non shower area (toilet bowl and sink) is slightly higher.

I pond test the entire bathrooms (two bathrooms with same design 8-3' x 6-3'). The shower area doesn't leak below. The non-shower area leaks below (I come back after 24 hours).

Is this normal? Or is this consider a defect that need to be rectified by developer? I need to ask because as expected, my developer argue that no body flood the non shower area in normal use and I have also void the warranty.

Thanks in advance!
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Wow...really gungho to pond the entire bathroom without first checking with developer.
The bathroom is a bit of grey area actually, it depends on the size of your bathroom and its design. A small bathroom regardless if shower area is sunken, usually will have waterproofing entirely but if it is larger bathroom (master bathroom), then full waterproofing is not carry out.

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post Nov 9 2021, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(samsungfreak @ Nov 7 2021, 12:42 AM)
The developer claims the bathrooms are fully waterproofed.

If let's say a large bathroom (master bathroom) is not fully waterproofed, do you mean they only waterproof 'half' of the non-shower area near the drain?
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There is a lot of water proof method and same what similar to handphone waterproof IP rating, different rating determine how long and how deep the phone can be submerged in water.

It does not mean the bathroom dry area is not waterproof but it may not be subjected to prolong ponding or in some cases continuous flow of water over a prolong time...

Try to negotiate with the developer, you do not nee to mention you run water ponding test. Just say that there is leak and ask them to fix it.

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Mar 2 2022, 07:06 PM)
Clean the edges and inject clear silicone. Then use a flat ice cream stick to press the silicone to cover as much gap possible. Do it on hot day.

If dont work, have to call contractor. He will have to remove the window and inject silicone on the outer frame. My landed house, I inject outside and no more leak.
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Yup, the suggestion is valid... but just a note is that fixing the issue from the inside may not have high success rate but it is can be DIY.
Fixing from the outside maybe the best option but will need to call contractor and have the safety gears ready.

Another thing is that check the rail of the windows, is there holes to let the water pass out? If no, can drill holes.
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post Mar 30 2022, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Jkan2021 @ Mar 28 2022, 11:05 AM)
Hi all - those living in older apt or condo, what is your experience with bathroom having bath tubs? How likely is it for bathrooms with old bath tubs to 'store' water underneath it and start leaking to the unit below? Is it recommended to just remove that old bath tub if it is not in use anymore?

Also, in terms of waterproofing have you come across contractors who previously did not fully do hacking job for the waterproof. Instead, the fella removed the old bathroom tiles, then coated a layer of waterproof paint and then lay with a new set of tiles. In this case, I assume that the waterproofing may not be long lasting?

An update on my case is MO suspected one of the building pipes passing through my unit may be the cause of the leak. Repair is underway.

Now, as far as my bathroom is concerned, should I be proactive and just redo the waterproofing properly. Or wait until downstairs file a leak complaint? And yes, I am aware that being proactive in this case comes with added cost and time; but I'd like to see what your views are. Thanks!
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Not sure about the bath tub leaking below but if it is old and not in use, it may be a better option to remove it in the next makeover.

For the waterproofing, usually contractor will not hack through waterproof. There will just apply new waterproof. A layer of paint may not be sufficient though.. but if it is wall and not floor, maybe it is still acceptable
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QUOTE(ernie ball @ Mar 30 2022, 04:48 PM)
Hi everyone, recently purchased an old new house - around 10 years old. I am thinking should I check for any water pipe leak before I do renovations. Is it a standard practise? I don’t plan to renovate all bathrooms (5 bathrooms!) hence cannot change the piping. Anyone had any experience dealing with water leak detection? Done a pressure test myself, seems ok but not able to test the pipes coming from reserve tank. In Penang, anyone had dealt with any water leak checking company here? A bit worried there’s a leak after I’ve done renovations.
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Not really sure what is your question. But water leaking check is very simple... just get the reading of the main meter when the tangki is full and all tap is closed and make sure no one is using water for a day or 2... then check back again. If the meters remain the same, then it is safe to say that there is no leaking.

Reserved tank? you mean the main is directly connected to all the bathroom? Reserved tank will be use when there is no water from main? Basically bypass to direct water supply uses back the same pipe, there is only 1 additional valve being install... So to test the valve, switch off the main and see if you still have water from the bathroom
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QUOTE(footie_ft @ Apr 7 2022, 04:11 PM)
Anyone know if this is reasonable.

Toilet hacking tiling, remove toilet bowl, re-lay waterproofing 2 coat, ponding test, install tiling and toilet bowl, 5-6 days, total cost RM3500
8x5 feet
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price include tile? Size of tile and new toilet bowl? If yes, seems OK

 

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