Hey guys, I'm an 18y/o 'kid' trying to get my hands on some entry level pc. I've done some research and contact some seller but my parents are still wondering if the price can go anymore lower than rm2k. Do you guys have any budget build/ trusted seller recommendations for me? I look forward to hear all of you suggestions.

My pc is mainly for browsing, gaming, watching videos etc. Games I would usually play are dota2, LOL, CSGO, Destiny 2, Cod Warzone. Not looking for a pc with GPU because I'll leave it in future upgrades.

2nd question is which mobo are more useful for future upgrades? A320m or B450m, personally would choose b450m but if I can save a couple bucks it would help too.

3rd question is should I buy a psu or a case that comes with a psu? Because the case with psu do save me some money, but they look low quality and not safe 😅.

I look forward to all of your responds, please do give me some feedback!

Below I get from shopee, pricing should be cheaper but then you have to source it yourself.
You can go A320M or Asrock B450M-HDV which cost around RM264 if you want a cheaper MB.
I choose 2x RAM instead of 1 because Ryzen run faster with dual channel memory setup and you can add in another 2x4GB in future to become 16GB since the MB have 4 memory slot (B450M Pro4).
Add in a SSD for boot drive will make the system run more faster. You can store your data and game folder in the 1TB HDD.
I choose Tecware because it is more cheaper and come with 3/4 fan.
I did not include a GPU since a new mid range card with 4GB like GTX 1650 or RX 560 cost around RM600+ new. I would suggest get an used RX470/480/570/580 which can cost around RM300-RM400 but then it will come with it own risk.
Only the R3 2300X pricing I get from viewnet.

Items                        Price (RM)
Asrock B450M Pro4        318
Adata DDR4 2666 4Gb X2 163
Apacer AS340 SSD 120GB 99.88
Tecware Forge M        139
Seagate 1TB                169
FSP Hyper-K 500w        165
Acer EK220Q                285
AMD Ryzen 3 2300X        299
Total                                1637.88

https://shopee.com.my/Asrock-B450M-Pro4-MAT...9687.2361540013
https://shopee.com.my/Seagate-BarraCuda-1TB...88920.341166116
https://shopee.com.my/TECWARE-FORGE-M-STEAL...6108.7830199806
https://shopee.com.my/ADATA-DDR4-(-4GB-8GB-...9687.4118767621
https://shopee.com.my/FSP-HYPER-K-500W-80-P...6936.1801048363
https://shopee.com.my/Acer-EK220Q-A-21.5-LE...4575.3226377350
https://shopee.com.my/APACER-AS340-2.5-SSD-...4975.1605528494
https://shopee.com.my/Asrock-B450M-HDV-R4.0...9687.2361604219

Can go lower... A cheaper Mobo and a cheaper case.. but I'll swap SSD with the HDD.

A dram 120GB SSD cost more then RM200 compare to a dram-less SSD, more than double the price per performance. The only downside of dram-less is slower IO and lesser life-span, for only RM100.
Since TS have a RM2K budget, you get what you pay for. BTW, a dram-less SSD still faster than a normal HDD.
For the RAM, i suggest 2x4GB.

UV500 still 43% more expensive compare to apacer as430. Like I say, you get what you pay for.

The B450M Pro4 have 4 slot, 2x4GB for now, can upgrade to 4x4GB in future if needed total 16GB. 8GB RAM is more than enough for daily usage and light gaming.

Already 2.1K...

Under 2000, including a monitor. Parents are strict with spending money 😅 a little over 2000 should be alright 😅

R3 3300x                        549
Gigabyte B450m        289
Kingston 2x4gb 2666mhz 198
Thermaltake 450w        129
Intel 760p NVMe 128GB 199
WD 1TB                        189
Sapphire RX570 4GB        479

RM 2032.

Below pricing without GPU. It is within budget and you can upgrade/change any component as you like.

Items                         Price (RM)
Asrock B450M Pro4         318
Adata DDR4 2666 4Gb X2 163
Apacer AS340 SSD 120GB 99.88
Tecware Forge M         139
Seagate 1TB                 169
FSP Hyper-K 500w         165
Acer EK220Q                 285
AMD Ryzen 5 3400G         629
Total                                 1967.88

Damn, that really gave me an idea of how shitty the integrated gpu is 😅 thanks tho, would consider your build, very efficient for everyday use, but I'm open for more suggestions!
Many thanks

Your so called "crap" tech exist for a reason.
If you want more performance you have to pay for it.

This is good enough for your usage. For GPU, get NVIDIA 1050ti or AMD RX470/480/570/580 around RM500+, should be able to play 1080p/720p 60 fps with low settings and it fit within your RM 2K+ budget.
If you want to play in higher details or more demanding AAA games, you need to get more expensive hardware. You get what you pay for.

Btw, I am using Kingston A400 dram-less "crap" SSD since last year and encounter no problem at all. It boot and load much more faster than normal HDD and I have no complaint of it's performance with what I pay for it.

Items                        Price (RM)
Asrock B450M Pro4        318
Adata DDR4 2666 4Gb X2 163
Apacer AS340 SSD 120GB 99.88
Tecware Forge M        139
Seagate 1TB                169
FSP Hyper-K 500w        165
Acer EK220Q                285
AMD Ryzen 3 2300X        299
Total                                1637.88

It is ok since the money is not coming out from your pocket.

Let TS decide what to buy since it is his own money.

1. I can't seem to find anyone selling 2300x, where can I find them? Do you have any recommendations?

2. What are you thoughts on 2nd hand/ refurbished parts? I've found some refurbished GPU on shoppee (mainly rx560 570 580) rx580 8gb ddr5 refurbished selling at rm500. 570 560 selling at around rm300+.

3. Which SSD do you recommend? Are the cheap ones mostly DRAMless?

4. This vid seems to show that 1600 is good, but it's an old cpu, the base clock is low, and it's only Zen, but it can still run most games smoothly. What do you think? https://youtu.be/n8_nFpPgkFQ

5. My parents question my decision on buying a desktop since I would be going to college, they asked me why wouldn't I buy a laptop instead? So do you have any laptop recommendations for daily use and light gaming?

Sorry if I asked too many questions 😅 many thanks

Side note : I am not planning to buy the pc ASAP because new ryzen are coming soon, I would wait for that. And the economy is unstable right now, also PSU are getting less and less.