Damn, your condo management is absolutely useless
You should geng up with other owners during AGM to boot out this useless condo management
My condo have better set of rules to control these noises but onus of proof must come from you in terms of video recording
Unfortunately, I can hear chair dragging sound up to 4 floors above me.
Yes its that bad.
During MCO was really bad
But I am glad that there is a construction next to my condo
So any idiot who is thinking of sleeping late will be awaken by the construction next door.
I think the major problem with your condo, is the management.
Talk to other neighbors, accumulate complain and try to boot them out next AGM.

Is it just you and your wife ? you have kids ?
If no kids, you can activate world war 3
they stomp, you go to your toilet early morning and start slamming ceramic to your tiles. Or your toilet bowl lid, just drop it.
Your upstair sure can hear
But downstair also can hear, so be ready for complain
or you can take a ladder, can use a hammer to hit the ceiling. Hope you don't have plaster ceiling.
I always think condo plaster ceiling is a waste of money, I don't even bother to waste money doing it.

Long term you can consider to move out and rent your unit
But you move to landed and also rent
until you find a longer term

For me, I also hate to stay in condo
Condo in msia really suck to stay in
developer really useless one
They claim they do QC check but none at all
as a result all the main door slam loudly, due to rosak door closer
floor to floor also lack insulation
I stay in Australia and HK also not get this type of shit
Except in London, my condo have that stupid piping problem sound everytime my neighbor flush his toilet
Only in Msia, condo is built like crap and they never bother to think about sound insulation

Your condo say before 11pm mean can do renovation in weekend also ?
Damn if yes, really useless tak guna management
My condo not allow renovation any time in public holiday and weekends.
Strictly owner will get fined.

Condo in msia build like shit.

Can hear 2-3 floors above you someone stomping
Even downstair someone slam door also can hear
Even your right and left condo, the fella bathing at 430 am also can hear the fella slaming his ceramic mug on the tiles while brushing teeth.

Never trust a sly foxy msia developer.

Buy sub-sale
Never buy a newly launch one
If you intend to stay
Newly launch one based on showroom - only buy if you want for investment
Newly launch one, you can't feel the doors, some showroom no doors at all, you can't feel the flush of toilet, and see the defects
Farking developers in Msia - their QC check is for customer to raise defect listing
They don't even bother to do their own QC check
I work in manufacturing line - all our products are certified QC check.
then why developer no need the responsibility to do QC check baffles me.

ANother reason don't buy newly launch is that you dunno your neighbors
and you certainly dunno the quality of your condo management
That's why buy sub sale for staying purposes.

Last few properties I bought, I personally knew the developer
so I can see the list and know who exactly staying next to me
Excluding the biggest mistake I ever made was the property I recently bought and moved in
This developer completely alluded me
The project director is a tidak apa attitude fella - he thinks what works for him works for everybody

they not only want to build higher

but they also want to have higher margin
no more pure freehold condo
they all come in mixed development
Commercial development
some stupid condo have only one or two storey high of shopping lots, suddenly become commercial lot.
Then they also getting smaller and smaller
goodness 750k for 900 sq feet.
some asshole property developer told me that this is modern living - minimization living. Stuff family of 4 into 900 sq feet.
they even have open concept - your kitchen is open exposed no wall.
I hate those type of units
why?
because when you cook all the smoke go to your living room
your kids can see the kitchen knife at the kitchen block may play with it
you lose a wall that you can put in more hanging cabinets to put your stuff
in middle of night or if your upstairs wake up at 4 am to cook, you will dragging of bar stools
because an open kitchen would have a high table so need to have bar stools

All in the name of modern living - but in actual fact blady developer wanna cut corners
Too many developers out there
I hope they pay the price of this covid 19
and many more close down
I pray many more close down
and better quality more concern for customer needs come out

I would prefer Build To Sale
I will never buy a showroom promo one again

I once had a crazy neighbor upstairs that can't stop running from 2am to 5am.
Luckily I rented that unit for 1 month from my uncle.
I had enough after 2 weeks, I moved out.

Condo has so many problem with sound
1) dragging chair/furniture
2) footstep sound
3) Slamming door sound
4) Bomba now require new condo to install fire proof door: they are heavy and lazy ass developers don't do QC check on the door closer, so most door closers are defective causing units to super slam the main door until dead also wake up
5) ceramic cup sound of your neighbor brushing teeth and put the cup on the granite toilet tile

Almost all condo in Msia have hollow floors.
Only those very high class posh ones near KLCC, cost > 2 million per unit, have insulation
Moving to landed is a costly option
because you have to buy second hand
A single storey house in PJ cost 700k
A double storey one probably cost 950k
Then you need another 250k to renovate
You also need to headache to hire a reliable contractor that can do your whole renovation work
I have a friend who hired a contractor to extend his house from 2 storey to 3 storey, keep on asking for more money but work not completed
then he stopped giving the money and his house was in limbo was another 1 year
until he found another contractor to finish his home
He learn the valuable lesson of being cheated

its hard to prove and legal ramifications of chasing the top owner away.

legal cases in msia takes years to decide

and some people can get bankrupt in the process

if you win the case, many years down the road, the other side not only have to pay principle but plus interest.


Our developer standards and laws to protect owners are below par
prevention is better than cure
we should not wait until take legal action
we should ensure developers do a good job before they give to new owners
Build to Sell is the best option

Our property only look nice on the outside fascade
but on the inside all crappy

I once lived in Puchong double storey house
The developer is quite popular
but their house is crappy
You think house no footstep sound?
Wrong
I once lived next to incredible hulk
He walk with big stomping sound at 3 am
I can even hear him scold his daughter through the walls
when he shower and sing song...my master bedroom sound like water fall swish sound and can hear him singing

You can still do that...go to the floor above him with a hammer
at the pathway...hammer all the way...
if the penthouse is empty of course
the staircase no security card need to access ?

Well no surprise
you heard of the taman rimba kiara too, right ?
But dunno what happen now, what is the status ?
LOL, I brought all 3 of my ex girlfriends there for a walk even my present day wife.
that place brings back a lot of memories
Plus my mountain biking failed exploits there
hope they don't demolish that park

well the more lower price unit you buy, it appear the less considerate people are
but of course even in high price units
there are few who are nut case

Before you go talk to them
bring the security guard with you just in case
I think its best to have MO go talk to them instead of you

But its only noise up to 11 pm ?
After 11pm ok ?
My one worse, I got noise at 4am.

keep on pushing
don't give up
push the MO
talk to them
The cat is out of the box
the upstair already know you are frustrated with their foot step noise
so if they become malicious
even worse
so you have nothing to lose

Do you have a watsapp or telegram of your condo group ?
Go say something there
see if you can get some complains
my condo telegram group made a lot of open complains about footstep noise during this MCO
reach out to the resident committee
to the chairman
I made contacts with some influential people within the resident committee
at times I talk to them about the issues we face

economy is very bad now
if you try to sell your unit you may not get a good price
I heard one house wanted to sell for 650k...but due to bad market and ppl hard to get loan, the price went down to 600k
Bafore MCO, that type of house can fetch 680k.
single storey house

that;s why I don't do plaster ceiling
waste of money

I stay in condo every 6 years
then I move to another
and rent it out

I don't buy top floor
because I wanna maximise my returns
most tenants don't go for high floor
unless they fussy expats

Omg
that's why when buy condo
don't just look at showroom and price
don't just judge by fascade
see developer reputation, though most of the stinks, avoid the sinkiest
see the management office team
see the neighbors
see how resident committee fight for their rights
my own resident committee just came out with new set of bi-laws
which includes nuisance as one of the rules
about making noise disturb the peace

I remember my condo in London, I hate it.
There was this loud plumbing sound everytime my neighbors flush their toilet.
But no footsteps, no furniture dragging, no door slam sound, no sound of your upstair put ceramic cup in the toilet after brush teeth. This is what I call quality.

For Msia:-
ALso the design intent sucks
The developer doesn't have to spend so much to ensure quality
but yet they don't even bother
For eg...I once lived in Puchong
At least think of putting some drain gutter below the roof atap
But the stupid developer didn't bother to do so
So when heavy raining, my house looks like a waterfall
What about doors ? doors that are much smaller than the frame
WHat will happen?
Super door slam sound
That stupid developer build another housing area in Setia Alam
And as I predicted, same old stupid door quality
This time worse, with the L-Shape handle that I hated
Sometimes my shirt would get tangled on that kind of stupid handle
I want the cylindrical door knob design back

Is it so hard for them to go house to house do QC check ?
DOn't even bother to do that
Wall cracks
Wooden window frame attack by fungus until become soft like sponge
Upstair hot like shit, because developer not bother to place aluminium insulation

This post has been edited by Maria Takagi: May 20 2020, 04:28 PM

then MCO once over

Your problem is solved ?

they go back ?

if you can, choose semi-D
or corner lot with big garden
I don't think there are many newly built houses in Klang Valley
Perhaps in Shah Alam and Klang or somewhere near Kajang or outskirt Cheras
You live in KV ?

I wish I have the finances to move out too
But I am thinking of moving back to the bigger corner lot home, I jointly bought with my parents, nearby
just that my wife don't prefer to stay with parents
maybe turn my condo into a weekend home
I tried that a few years ago
I had two cars and two homes
Damn confusing
always left my keys behind in one of the homes

Maybe buy a nice cushion pair of slippers and ask ur maintenance office to pass to them to wear when they at home

Well at least he tried

shopee/lazada got ?

yes normal reaction, they usually deny.

also got case, they know full well is upstairs of them, but yet they still protect the 2 level up noisemaker.

complain to commissioner of building