Like for example, my sum insured in 2019 is 80k, then this year quotation came for 2020 is still 80k. But when total loss before renew insurance, they say market value only 70k
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May 13 2020, 11:45 AM, updated 6y ago
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Why got concept like agreed value and market value when u do total loss claim
Like for example, my sum insured in 2019 is 80k, then this year quotation came for 2020 is still 80k. But when total loss before renew insurance, they say market value only 70k |
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May 13 2020, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ May 13 2020, 11:45 AM) Why got concept like agreed value and market value when u do total loss claim you should lodge a dispute. insurance companies are like banks. legal ah longs.Like for example, my sum insured in 2019 is 80k, then this year quotation came for 2020 is still 80k. But when total loss before renew insurance, they say market value only 70k |
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May 13 2020, 11:48 AM
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thats where agreed value come in.
if you buy based on agreed value, then youh 80k will be compensated with 80k |
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May 13 2020, 11:49 AM
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does your motor insurance cover note stated agreed value? if it is stated then if claim arises, due to theft or total loss, the company should pay on agreed value.
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May 13 2020, 11:54 AM
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when issue you agreed value you say your car not worth that much. want lower premium. when got something happen, then ask why so low
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May 13 2020, 11:54 AM
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always buy agreed value...
not so rugi although the premium is slightly higher |
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May 13 2020, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ May 13 2020, 11:54 AM) when issue you agreed value you say your car not worth that much. want lower premium. when got something happen, then ask why so low So ngam my car is under MSIG LOL So if my insurance is market value, then there is no way to argue with them? This year they proposed sum insured same as last year, make me think my golden butt sit in my car wont decrease value lol |
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May 13 2020, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ May 13 2020, 11:55 AM) So ngam my car is under MSIG LOL do remember if it is market valueSo if my insurance is market value, then there is no way to argue with them? This year they proposed sum insured same as last year, make me think my golden butt sit in my car wont decrease value lol you over insure, you pay more premium but anything happens, they pay you market value only you under insure, you only get paid partially for your claim |
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May 13 2020, 12:03 PM
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Always insure the car value based on their valuation at agreed valued. Then you'll be covered.
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May 13 2020, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ May 13 2020, 11:55 AM) So ngam my car is under MSIG LOL If every year follow proposed sum insured the value does drop. But if last year you ask for lower, then it might show same as this year.So if my insurance is market value, then there is no way to argue with them? This year they proposed sum insured same as last year, make me think my golden butt sit in my car wont decrease value lol This is how my system looks like. MSIG Recommended SI:61000 (Agreed value) ISM-ABI Market Value:58000 Reply Date:09/01/2020 01:09:14 Response Code:ABI088 ISM Valuation Successful |
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May 13 2020, 12:20 PM
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I notice pemiums this year are a bit higher compared to last year, even if it's the same sum insured.
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May 13 2020, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ May 13 2020, 11:55 AM) So ngam my car is under MSIG LOL Unfortunately no way u can argue since u beli sum insured based on market value. If agreed value diff story, insurance must pay accordingly same to your agreed value. So if my insurance is market value, then there is no way to argue with them? This year they proposed sum insured same as last year, make me think my golden butt sit in my car wont decrease value lol But not all ins offer agreed value. U can compare price and benefits dengan company lain before purchase. QUOTE(tifosi @ May 13 2020, 12:03 PM) True. But not all insurance/takaful operator offer agreed value. QUOTE(BronzePlate @ May 13 2020, 12:20 PM) I notice pemiums this year are a bit higher compared to last year, even if it's the same sum insured. Since detariffication start, all insurance/takaful operator are free to revise their premium and guidelines. Ins premium no longer regulated by gov. Maybe pasal itu got some ins company increase their premium.Or maybe itu agent suka suka letak valuation sum insured tinggi, higher premium higher commission. This post has been edited by moodswingfella: May 13 2020, 12:30 PM |
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QUOTE(BronzePlate @ May 13 2020, 12:20 PM) I notice pemiums this year are a bit higher compared to last year, even if it's the same sum insured. because after deregulation, the insurance company can charge any amount they want and can compete with each other.usually they are very smart la, will increase step by step so no one notices |
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May 13 2020, 12:31 PM
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If you buy cars that depreciate kaw kaw then you better drive fast and wreck it. No wonder a lot of drivers of expensive cars are fucktards when on the road.
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May 13 2020, 12:31 PM
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now every insurance different price and can buy direct
agent like me business dying ... please support tq |
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May 13 2020, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 13 2020, 12:29 PM) But not all ins offer agreed value. U can compare price and benefits dengan company lain before purchase. Most major one does I think. So far I've only dealt with 2 companies, Lonpac and Allianz, both does offer agreed value. Price not much diff, only about 10% of your premium.True. But not all insurance/takaful operator offer agreed value. |
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May 13 2020, 01:22 PM
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May 13 2020, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ May 13 2020, 01:22 PM) looks like many buying thru online due to discount and MCO, maybe you can enlighten us what can we get if buy thru agent? For my clients I m their agent for their life insurance , medical card, shop insurance, shipping insurance, company vehicle insurance, construction insurance basically I handle a-z for their insurance matters. 2 months invoicing credit. then every year will give hamper and voucher |
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May 13 2020, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ May 13 2020, 01:48 PM) For my clients I m their agent for their life insurance , medical card, shop insurance, shipping insurance, company vehicle insurance, construction insurance Isit true that if buy toyota car with MSIG, then its less hassle to fix at toyota workshop (since MSIG is panel for toyota (?))basically I handle a-z for their insurance matters. 2 months invoicing credit. then every year will give hamper and voucher What i mean is some insurance company might haggle about what need to fix, how much it should cost etc |
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May 13 2020, 02:05 PM
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i think market value term is new concept.. before this, during claim, insurers will pay a market price, which is usually lower than the coverage value. Nowadays, a term agreed value is used whereby during claim, regardless of market price, insurer will pay based on agreed value. So, customers can get extra money (because agreed value can be higher than market value)
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May 13 2020, 02:18 PM
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The real pandemic in Malaysia are the people who must be spoofed any and all information or its always salahan orang lain. There are pros and cons for both market value or agreed value.
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May 13 2020, 02:20 PM
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Agreed value is a godsent for conti car drivers
Trade in value 15k but if car total loss or stolen insurance agreed value will pay 40k+ |
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May 13 2020, 02:22 PM
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if got budget just get agreed value ..less problem
else they take some market data out |
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May 13 2020, 02:22 PM
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May 13 2020, 02:24 PM
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May 13 2020, 02:28 PM
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AVP only good if your car total beyond recognition, if total 40% and they think still can repair under your extravagance AVP value. Bad luck, you going to have to drive the ketam car. Not civic ketam, but your body misaligned with no integrity car lol.
But maybe you can report to the body who regulate insurance company and get your car to be declared as total loss. |
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May 13 2020, 02:29 PM
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May 17 2020, 05:53 PM
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