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 Romet 250 V (LJ250-V) ala Buccaneer 250I, Problem

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TSJarap P
post May 1 2020, 04:46 PM, updated 6y ago

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greetings from Germany to Malaysia, my name is Jarap and I am now driving an ROMET SCMB 250 LJ250-V. Is an Buccaneer 250i Euero Version.I am looking for someone who is technically knowledgeable and can help me with problems. Thank you so much!

I imported the motorcycle to Germany, it is brand new and has a mileage of 16 kilometers. Unfortunately I have problems. The motorcycle starts but a few seconds later the red lamp (engine problem) comes on. The motorcycle is adjusting to gasoline and is not running properly. I am looking for repair manual and instructions. I searched the internet but found little. I became aware of your Facebook page. Maybe you can help me and if not I wish you all the best and lots of fun driving.

I have found the operating instructions as an attachment.
I am also looking for a repair manual
can someone help me here??



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cowboy_bebop
post May 2 2020, 09:02 AM

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Hi jarap. I saw you posted the issue on the buccaneer Malaysian community Facebook. Thats definitely the best place to ask I think for now

Hopefully one of the group members will be able to assist you

In the comments, a member Ng Cheng Wah pointed out that your ECU might be faulty. FYI iirc Mr Ng works at Chear Motor, the main distributor of the bike here in malaysia.

Electrical/electronics problem are not unheard of for the bike. Some were unable to get their bike running due to short circuit. In my case, the rectifier was kaput after 3-4 months of usage

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basilisk
post May 2 2020, 11:45 AM

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yea good move posted there...
TSJarap P
post May 2 2020, 01:41 PM

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Thank you all, yes the guys in the Malaysian community Facebook are really great, I didn't expect that much help. thank you!
I should just know where this part rectifier is (what it looks like photo) so I can check it.
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post May 2 2020, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Jarap @ May 2 2020, 01:41 PM)
Thank you all, yes the guys in the Malaysian community Facebook are really great, I didn't expect that much help. thank you!
I should just know where this part rectifier is (what it looks like photo) so I can check it.
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I doubt your problem is the rectifier (photo). The rectifier issue causes the battery to not charging, so your battery will die, causing the ECU to not work and the bike not running. The battery indicator will flash. I had it replaced for free as the bike is still under warranty.

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I'm sorry I've never encountered any ECU issue, so couldn't help you with it.

There's an american youtuber doing all sorts of maintenance work on the same bike (ssr buccaneer) called choppercharles. He also posted his work in details here

https://advrider.com/f/threads/my-new-chine...r-250c.1366197/

Hopefully that's helpful for you

The scene here in malaysia for this bike is we often purchase spare parts direct from China (via shopee, taobao) and DIY it. It's cheaper, and as there are only 2-3 official service centre nationwide
TSJarap P
post May 2 2020, 05:03 PM

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thanks for you help,
today service technician is coming, let's see what he says, since I've already had 30 motorcycles, I already have some experience.


TSJarap P
post May 2 2020, 05:10 PM

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I do not know of such a mistake yet. I have heard the petrol tank and checked if it was on the injection pump, but can also see no problem there.
the only thing is the round part near the shock absorber, this part is not where it should be.


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cowboy_bebop
post May 2 2020, 11:32 PM

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Sorry for not able to get a pic of the part on my bike for comparison. My bike is elsewhere and we are in a soft lockdown in malaysia atm

Saw that you already had a technician looking at your bike. Hopefully the problem will be fixed. You are obviously more experience with that many number of bikes. Mine is my first haha

For my personal note (as I'm a beginner), I recorded most technical issues of the bike and compile it in a Google site. However, the notes are in Malay language

https://sites.google.com/view/buccabros/issues

Best of luck with your (and mine) bike!
TSJarap P
post May 3 2020, 03:38 PM

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thank for you Info and good away!
Service will bring the motorcycle back next week, I'll get back to you when it's back. Have a good trip, everyone
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post May 13 2020, 12:05 AM

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the motorcycle is back from service
Process:
The service dealer found the alleged mistake and mixed an additive from Liqui Molli into the fuel tank, changed a spark plug and brought the motorcycle back to me.
I drove another 4 kilometers, then and the motorcycle didn't work again. Stutter again and red lamp.
I looked at the spark plugs, they were completely black and really dirty. Spark plugs cleaned and again driven 4 kilometers, then the problem with red light and stuttering is back. Spark plugs removed, same problem as before.
Extremely black dirty electrodes again. Look at the pictures: user posted image
I then sucked off the old gasoline and put new super gasoline in it.
Unfortunately, the problem is still there. Engine no longer starts.

Dirty black spark plugs again.
Now I wrote to the service in Poland, from there I exported the motorcycle.
The service from Poland writes that I should read out the error code with the OBD II scanner.
Where is the connection and what does the FI connection for the scanner look like ???
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post May 13 2020, 12:07 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFFMho9eois&feature=youtu.be
cowboy_bebop
post May 13 2020, 06:03 AM

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Oooff sorry to hear that. Will get back if I'm getting useful info
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post May 16 2020, 04:29 PM

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Thanks.
where is diagnostic connector???

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TSJarap P
post May 16 2020, 05:19 PM

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is the right adapter for diagnostic connection for OBD II?

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post May 19 2020, 09:23 AM

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the black female connector looks like OBD2.
for the one at the bike, have you found it? some bikes have it under the seat or near the battery compartment.

For your case, suggest you check fuel pump, fuel filter, and injector if they are still stuck with the LiquiMoly. Clean them if possible.
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post May 24 2020, 09:15 PM

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the cable on the ignition coil was faulty .. took a few hours to find the fault ..

https://youtu.be/zarF0d95yHg
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post May 24 2020, 09:17 PM

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@alexei..thanks for you posting

yes I cleaned everything with Liqui Moly and exchanged spark plugs ..
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post Jun 16 2020, 05:54 AM

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Hi everyone
I'm from Hamburg/Germany and I'm driving a Romet Scmb 250i too
I've a lot of fun riding it .. wink.gif
and now i have to read a lot here
till later
greets SCMBfan



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post Jun 16 2020, 06:01 AM

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Hi everyone
I'm from Hamburg/Germany and I'm driving a Romet Scmb 250i too
I've a lot of fun riding it .. wink.gif
and now i have to read a lot here
till later
greets SCMBfan
@jarap ...send a pm,if you have still problems wink.gif


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post Jun 16 2020, 06:03 AM

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TSJarap P
post Jun 16 2020, 03:30 PM

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hi an ALL
my box is currently running very well, I have solved the ignition problems myself, yes the search for the fault was not easy ... it was one of the ignition coils for the rear Zilynder.
the German dealer has a lot of clue, he didn't even have an instruction manual, let alone a diagnostic OBD adapter, so nothing. The Poles are also not well equipped and not ready to help. It's a good thing I already had 30 motorcycles and I know a lot.
I also have direct contact with manufacturer Longjia because my wife is from China.
Yesterday I repaired the fuel sender myself. And it's my turn to make a diagnosis connection.
Well, the moped is not bad, just "knitted" and cheap spare parts from Poland. for example, a cylinder costs € 60 .. so nothing.

I am gradually replacing slightly higher-quality parts, for example with various plug connections .. the ignition coils possibly .. .. then I should bring the next summer around .. I am still looking for data on engine maintenance, i.e. torque information, valve settings .. actually so Art Rep. And maintenance instructions.

greeting
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post Jun 16 2020, 04:51 PM

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Hi jarap! Glad you finally have the bike running with the cryptic issue. Sorry for not being able to offer any assistance. I still don't have my bike with me

For upgrades i guess you could refer to what choppercharles did for his bike. He documented the process in details on that advrider forum

At this point id say I would've sold my bike if the used price isn't as low haha.

The only upgrade I'm planning to do is replacing the spoked wheels with rims. Most probably gonna stick KTM Duke rims with tubeless tyres so peace of mind and not having to pack spare tubes for long rides

TSJarap P
post Jun 19 2020, 01:29 PM

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since I had problems with the fuel gauge .. I had to look at it:

1) Loosen the tank

2) Loosen two contact closures

3) Tip over the tank

4) Remove sensor


so then I noticed that the "feeler" sits relatively loosely and is not always in contact ... I then "adapted" to which I tightened the nut on the feeler so that there is more pressure on the spool.

Then as removed .. reinstalled .. everything ok again ..


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cowboy_bebop
post Jun 20 2020, 06:46 PM

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This bike is well known for its inconsistent fuel reading. One second you're fine with 3 bars, next second it's blinking like it's empty. Especially on hilly roads. Did your fix solve the issue?

QUOTE(Jarap @ Jun 19 2020, 01:29 PM)
since I had problems with the fuel gauge .. I had to look at it:

1) Loosen the tank

2) Loosen two contact closures

3) Tip over the tank

4) Remove sensor
so then I noticed that the "feeler" sits relatively loosely and is not always in contact ... I then "adapted" to which I tightened the nut on the feeler so that there is more pressure on the spool.

Then as removed .. reinstalled .. everything ok again ..
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