Hi all,

I need to get a new phone, and I want your advice since I have not been following the mobile scene for a while.

My criteria (a bit different from what reviewers always focus on):
* OS/Security updates (longevity)
* Storage size

Things I'm not concerned about:
* Camera quality
* Screen technology
* Bells and whistles

In terms of size, the smaller the better, but I believe (good) small phones don't exist now.

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* My first phone was an iPhone 4, but security updates were quickly cut when iOS 7 (IIRC) started to support 4s and above only. I was pissed.
* I then moved to Nexus due to the longevity hype and latest OS, but was really disappointed when Google ended up with the policy of supporting phones for 3 years only. Again, pissed.

I heard from my friends that iPhone 6 is still getting updates. The reason being that phones in recent years have gotten good enough that it can still support today's OS. Man, I regret getting the Nexus now.

So, in 2020, I'm currently looking at the 2020 SE. It uses the same latest processor, so I think the phone can last for 6-7 years? The only concern I have is the small battery, which probably means lesser charge-discharge cycles, so the 6-7 years benefit could be killed by a dead battery anyway. (But I think I can stock up on a spare battery now, and change it 7 years later?)

Any better alternatives out there?

Agree with your suggestion of getting iPhone SE 2020. Its practically the same size as iPhone 8 if im not wrong, so hence you will be able to use iPhone 8 accessories.. hehe. Honestly I would have waited for this phone if I knew its coming out.. hahaha

it's a no brainer, iphone of course if you expect years of OS updates

dont pay attention to those benchmarks tests as they dont normally represent real life usage. my 7+ battery has been saying service for over a year and still lasted more at least 2 days. my son using iphone 6s+ for games and youtubes. almost the same battery life, and is still getting latest ios.

it a small phone. se battery should be ok for average users. ive a huawei y max with 5000mah battery i use for whatsapp. still need to charge every 2-3 days.

That really sounds good. My Nexus's battery performance started to drop just after 1 year.

I'm thinking it's because at work, I'm constantly charging it with my PC and/or car charger instead of the factory charger, which messed up the battery.

This post has been edited by bret7: Apr 28 2020, 06:00 PM

Sounds like iPhone SE 2020 is made for you.

I just saw an article about Nokia promising a "forever" cycle. Sounds really good, but no decent reviewers ever cover their phones. Plus, they were caught sending private data to China, which is odd since Finland is pro data-privacy.

This post has been edited by bret7: Apr 29 2020, 03:29 PM

To be fair, all phone manufacturers has issue with piracy. Except maybe Blackberry.

This post has been edited by WiLeKiyO: Apr 29 2020, 03:39 PM

iPhone 11, no doubt.

nokia or any android one partner
https://www.android.com/one/

nokia 1 low end smartphone release Q1 2018 still got apr 2020 google security patch monthly update

If you are comfortable flashing OS, Oneplus is the way to go. Have a look at the 7T or 7T Pro.

My 5 year old oneplus 2 is running android 9 with no issues. Only battery small as per standards back then.

This post has been edited by jacktay94: Apr 30 2020, 11:48 AM