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News Goodbye China's $3.8 Trillion New Silk Road

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SUSAngelic Layer
post Apr 21 2020, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 21 2020, 12:54 PM)
TS will be disappointed. In fact the belt and road is not really white elephant but meant to defeat US embargo and naval blockade. Belt and road project halted in Europe and south east asia but not west asia and middle east. In fact, the path route linking Russia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, China, Pakistan, Iran is on.

You will find the useful of highway linking China, Pakistan to Iran allowing China and Russia to supply essential necessities, weapons, parts to Iran.  US naval blockade on sactioned Iran is useless and Iran will be able to defend itself against US invasion. At the same time, logistics firms along the route and other businesses that derived from it prosper.
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No, the most important part, and one of the central objective of the project, the oil pipeline failed to materialize even after more than a decade now.
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post Apr 21 2020, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Apr 21 2020, 12:21 PM)
china is going to experience a lot of defaults, especially since their loans are to the less developed countries that dont do too well in recessions.
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Probably thats what china wants. Remember Hambantota port, or Kenneth Kaunda International airport?

I fear this crisis actually played into China's hands
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post Apr 21 2020, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Apr 21 2020, 12:18 PM)
Yes.
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post Apr 21 2020, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(loki @ Apr 21 2020, 11:30 AM)
wow. ts with his anti china threads again.. wonder if he is CIA?
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Like that ts is the most lame duck CIA ever...
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post Apr 21 2020, 01:22 PM

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post Apr 21 2020, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Apr 21 2020, 12:04 PM)
Ha ha ha ha ha.... dunno why he no worry about ECRL? whistling.gif
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Who needs ECRL when can songlap with restrictive movement biggrin.gif

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post Apr 21 2020, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Apr 21 2020, 12:40 PM)
You are wrong.
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Go find some numbers to support your statement.

And you will be surprised.
I mean, you were never a bright guy and never predicted anything correctly.  You never even share anything useful.
So im asking you to go find some numbers to support your 'fact', so you can learn something along the way.
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why not you proof me wrong?
LoL.
I quote a few instances
1) If Microsoft suspends Windows system remotely in China, tomorrow whole China technology industry die!
2) If Nvidia dont sell to China, China cant produce graphics cards
3) If Snapdragon... die
4) If USA dont pay a single cent for China for its goods supplied from China, China die...

In the end, China dies first
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post Apr 21 2020, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Apr 21 2020, 01:01 PM)
Probably thats what china wants. Remember Hambantota port, or Kenneth Kaunda International airport?

I fear this crisis actually played into China's hands
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Its one thing if one country defaults, its another if 76 countries default. Even before they look at seizing anything, theyll have to recapitalise their banks to avoid a financial crisis.
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post Apr 21 2020, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Apr 21 2020, 12:23 PM)
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post Apr 21 2020, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Apr 21 2020, 12:59 PM)
No, the most important part, and one of the central objective of the project, the oil pipeline failed to materialize even after more than a decade now.
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It is already in construction but to avoid violation of embargo, PRC purposely put it on hold until war happens in Iran, they'll start pumping oils channelling to China in return of food, weapons, equipments trade.
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post Apr 21 2020, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 21 2020, 08:43 PM)
It is already in construction but to avoid violation of embargo, PRC purposely put it on hold until war happens in Iran, they'll start pumping oils channelling to China in return of food, weapons, equipments trade.
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Which means it is an white elephant, one which will never happen.
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post Apr 21 2020, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Apr 21 2020, 09:46 PM)
Which means it is an white elephant, one which will never happen.
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Not white elephant anymore. The pipeline already there but pending activation at right time. China is planning to replace US as oil supplier in Asia to countries without much oil such as Japan, South Korea, Thailand that currently get from US. Philippines, Vietnam, Taiwan will share dividends when mining in Spratlys started. When China influence grow stronger, China no longer obey US sanction and can overwrite dealing with which ever countries blacklisted by US.
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post Apr 21 2020, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(LA757 @ Apr 21 2020, 11:48 AM)
Hello! Silk Road sudah siap la sampai Pakistan boder...we already finished the project there lama sudah..almost 7 years ago. Silk road across central China tu Uzbek/Kyrg border also siap. Modern highways & rail infrastructure.

More modern than USA infrastructure.

Author paling pandai...
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post Apr 21 2020, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(PortgasDerekAce @ Apr 21 2020, 11:39 AM)
CCP plotek so hardworking everyday
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better put our ignore list sheild on

ignore "not timid and slow", nut case commie supporter with mentally craze lunacy talk about irrelevant stuff, he debate like a pandan.
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post Apr 21 2020, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Apr 21 2020, 09:53 PM)
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another commie is "not timid and slow", damn stupid fella, keep talking nonsense

better put him in your ignore list

he likes to troll whenever he loses a debate and become butthurt
SUSAngelic Layer
post Apr 21 2020, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 21 2020, 09:53 PM)
Not white elephant anymore. The pipeline already there but pending activation at right time. China is planning to replace US as oil supplier in Asia to countries without much oil such as Japan, South Korea, Thailand that currently get from US. Philippines, Vietnam, Taiwan will share dividends when mining in Spratlys started.  When China influence grow stronger, China no longer obey US sanction and can overwrite dealing with which ever countries blacklisted by US.
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That is the convenient script I understand, but it won't be complete after 20 years, nor it will for the next 20 years, probably 50 years or even forever.
It is nice to keep it going forever for a project which can never be completed so you can continue to siphon money for whatever amount that is asked, I know that because I am involved in a side project in the mid 2000's.
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post Apr 21 2020, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Pitiuran @ Apr 21 2020, 09:55 PM)
another commie is "not timid and slow", damn stupid fella, keep talking nonsense

better put him in your ignore list

he likes to troll whenever he loses a debate and become butthurt
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post Apr 21 2020, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Apr 21 2020, 09:57 PM)
NMSL itu budaya komunis
jangan pertikai
satu dunia dari Siam ke Taiwan sudah tau.
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so let's put him in ignore list

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post Apr 21 2020, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Apr 21 2020, 09:57 PM)
That is the convenient script I understand, but it won't be complete after 20 years, nor it will for the next 20 years, probably 50 years or even forever.
It is nice to keep it going forever for a project which can never be completed so you can continue to siphon money for whatever amount that is asked, I know that because I am involved in a side project in the mid 2000's.
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Belt and road connecting to China allies already completed and running. Only links to Europe on hold. Russian also already linked up along with its ex-Soviet allies. Belt & road is not for corruption but to supply & trade with China allies bypassing US embargo.
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post Apr 21 2020, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 21 2020, 10:01 PM)
Belt and road connecting to China allies already completed and running. Only links to Europe on hold. Russian also already linked up along with its ex-Soviet allies. Belt & road is not for corruption but to supply & trade with China allies bypassing US embargo.
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Don't lie lah, just because you think people cannot see it.
What happened to Peshawar-Karachi motorway?

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