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 Official LYN FIA Formula One World Championship V3, Kimi Raikkonen - 2007 World Champion.

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post Sep 15 2007, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Sep 15 2007, 03:57 AM)
see you said it yourself.

what if it happens to another team ?
it could happen to any team. that's why those who provided the information need to be charged as well. let me remind you guys again that it was GIVEN, not stolen. it would be a completely different story and alot less complicated if it was stolen.


Added on September 15, 2007, 3:58 am>> Dennis was source of new spy evidence <<

interesting ....  hmm.gif
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I read somewhere that Alonso threaten McLaren with his emails and put up some demand. Ron then had to counter this by going forward to the FIA first with all the info. With that, he turn the table against Alonso instead and save his image by showing that he has nothing to hide.

That Ferrari employee did something wrong too, and yes he should be change, if that's what u'r implying. If you mean Ferrari should be charge, I think you're probably drunk laugh.gif
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post Sep 15 2007, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Sep 15 2007, 12:47 PM)
same thing goes to ferrari winning the constructors title. its tainted. they won it off the track
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So it's ferrari fault that mclaren cheated, that mclaren decided to use ferrari data in their simulation, that mclaren breach intellectual copyright rules.

QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Sep 15 2007, 02:13 PM)
Definitely.

Ron Dennis..."We're pulling our drivers and entire team out until 2008!"

He hasn't said it yet, but there is nothing left to be done but to do so. Here's how I look at it...

"IF" Ron was ignorant of this whole mess and he is half the man he claims to be (no team orders, we're an honorable team, etc. etc.), then he has no choice but to retire the team from this year's racing.
"IF" however, he was complicit, then he must also retire his team anyway because it's the best way to minimize the damage already done to the sport.

THE CAR AND TEAM IS ILLEGAL... FULL STOP!!!

All the world knows it, but the FIA is too soft/moronic to know what needs to be done.
Any man worth his salt would simply throw in the towel and try again next year (after also sacking Alonzo, PDR, Caughlin, and anyone else who was privy to the Ferrari info within the team).
A complete purge is necessary to make things right.
Nothing less will do if Ron cares at all about the future of the sport.

Come on Ron...show us what caliber of man you are! We're waiting...

Since they're guilty...sure it'll effect the sponsors such as Santander (bank).
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mclaren will still get hamilton his world title... or maybe alonso, even if its against their will.
with all this that happened, the last person they wants to win the title is alonso, but if they hinder alonso's race to favor hamilton, they will get even more trouble...
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post Sep 15 2007, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(EroS @ Sep 15 2007, 03:59 PM)
still cant believe WMSC didnt punish da mclaren drivers.
wat ever happen 2 "All 4 1 & 1 4 All"..
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I think Pedro and Alonso was given immunity, if I'm not mistaken

maybe they agreed on alonso cooperating with the FIA and in return, he gets immunity
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post Sep 15 2007, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Sep 15 2007, 05:45 PM)
but it's not entirely sure what has gone into mclaren's car, we dont even know  whether the contents of pedro's conversation with alonso is from the 780 pages of dossier or from stepney mouth. but it's from ferrari none the less..

cry-baby-ron VS attention-whore-alonso. who's the winner ?

i doubt alonso will be at mclaren next year nor he will win the drivers champ. mclaren sure sabotage his car. laugh.gif equal treatment is out of the window when shit like this happens.
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Alonso just turn the table against his own team McLaren, I doubt the team will do something like that, as Alonso will report it to the FIA if McLaren do something like that, and further get them into trouble.

Although it would be better for the team if Lewis win, as they will still keep their number 1 and 2 on their cars next season. If Alonso wins, he takes the number 1 and 2 to which ever team he goes to and mclaren will have number 20 or so.
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post Sep 15 2007, 06:14 PM

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Glad to see Kimi faster than Massa lol
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post Sep 17 2007, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Sep 17 2007, 08:39 PM)
If he use new engine mean he will back 10 position at SPA GP right? correct me if im wrong.
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No, he retired due to mechanical failure. Even though its not engine related, as long as the retirement is mechanical failure and not intentional, you can change your engine if you wants to.
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post Oct 8 2007, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(binary @ Oct 8 2007, 06:35 PM)
Ferrari accused in F1 spy twist

Source : BBC Sport

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Sorry if this has been posted before. So, should FIA take action against Ferarri too? strip out thier constructor point?  brows.gif
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Saw that news sometime ago. True enough, someone post it up lol.

That guy is just bitter. He wanted to be promoted when Ross left the team, but he was sidelined, and he did openly voice out his displeasure last year (Ferrari should had kept an eye on him since then, he was already a rouge employee)

He then sold out the team to McLaren who unfortunately, more than willing to take his info instead of reporting him.

There's not a chance any info can flow in from McLaren, since Ron already know his employee is doing such stuff, he'll never let it happen the other way round. There's no way that McLaren employee can get anything out from the team.

Anyone in his position can say such a thing since he's not backing it up with any proof. It's like "Hey I know Ferrari is spying, I got no proof so take my word for it."

PS: If anyone still not convince, McLaren would have reported Ferrari if it was true smile.gif

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post Oct 9 2007, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Oct 9 2007, 07:54 AM)
quote from tat article...
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Oct 9 2007, 08:43 AM)
so he knows that he can't prove it, yet he attempts to spoil Ferrari's name...
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That's right. He can't proof anything, so he can just say anything he wants.

Why FIA didn't start of an investigation? Heck why didn't Ron Dennis reported it to FIA? Nobody make any statement about it. Its just that idiot himself talking and talking and no one cares about him.

Simply because it doesn't happened.

It's the dumbest thing to do on earth, to trade secrets two ways. They may be dumb, but not so dumb as to exchange secrets like exchanging Christmas cards.
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post Oct 10 2007, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(kapitan @ Oct 10 2007, 12:09 AM)
4. Crane
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lol

QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Oct 10 2007, 12:20 AM)
LEWIS HAMILTON will win the 2007 Driver's Championship.

I mean come on...

deep down inside of you...

from the bowels of your stomach...

the twiches of your liver...

the splinage fluids ...

the insides of your blood cells...

YOU KNOW he is going to win whether you are an Alonso fan or Kimi fan.

Alonso vs. Hamilton
Hamilton vs. Alonso
Kimi vs. Alonso & Hamilton
And Massa could go in between and SPOIL it all...
"...I will get out of my car, go upto Alonso, shake his hands, and show him the door that says "You lose. You self &%&$&$ righteous %$@%$$...." - Hamilton
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Lewis stands a very very high chance. After all, the only one closest to it is Alonso, and when ron dennis said "we're not fighting Kimi, we're fighting Alonso", we all knows what to expect.

But it still is not 100%, though it will take a hell lot of bad luck for Hami to lose it.

 

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