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post Apr 9 2020, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(ukiya21 @ Apr 9 2020, 08:33 PM)
If you want more hardware power, get an Asustor.. AS5304t or AS5202T..
both are equipped with newer celeron processor which is better for video transcoding (plex media server) and newer 2.5GbE network card..
Previously was my target but Lazada 12.12 had a good offer for DS918+ that hard to resist..
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Wah...3.4k exceed my budget d hahah but 918+ really very keng hahah...nice setup buddy!! Thx
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post Apr 9 2020, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 9 2020, 08:38 PM)
Don't need overpriced "branded" NAS for me.

Pentium dual core
Gigabyte Z170X Ultra Gaming
Crucial 8GB DDR4-2666
FSP Hexa 500W
Corsar Carbide 400R (Can install 10 HDDs total)
Cooler Master 4-in-3 device module
WD Red Pro 3TB
WD Gold 3TB and 4TB
Seagate Skyhawk 8TB X3
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Not a bad idea to built PC as NAS but cons side will be very gaint size....but really value for money...thx
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post Apr 9 2020, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(chuah_ph @ Apr 9 2020, 08:57 PM)
Not a bad idea to built PC as NAS but cons side will be very gaint size....but really value for money...thx
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Obviously. What can you expect for casing that allows you to install 10 HDDs. lol
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post Apr 9 2020, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 9 2020, 08:59 PM)
Obviously. What can you expect for casing that allows you to install 10 HDDs. lol
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Hahah true...thx
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post Apr 9 2020, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 9 2020, 08:48 PM)
Yes. Just share the folder. You can use Solid Explorer to access it for Android.

There are DLNA apps for Windows as well.

Got cheap sale for motherboard with at least 6 HDD ports from time to time. This is example
https://shopee.com.my/shop/59277182/search?...ection=11643259

Pair it with Ryzen 3 1200 or 2300X.

Getting a cheap case with at least 6 HDD is harder these days.

Cooler Master old cases like Centurion 5 II, CM690, HAF912
Corsair Carbide 400R
Fractal Design Node 304 (ITX)
Fractal Design Node 804 (m-ATX)
Fractal Design Arc Midi R2
Silverstone Kublai KL04
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Oh.. I was actually thinking of this before last time, but then I was just too lazy to search for the software to use to stream on phone. xD End up buying DLink DSL-320L. hahaha. May try soon after I plan it out and see. Hehehe. I do have a spare ryzen 3 1200 lying around. hahaha. But need new mobo, ram, casing etc. xD Hard disks would cost the most though. XD Both my 8TB and 4TB is worth RM1.5k. hahaa.
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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Apr 9 2020, 10:10 PM)
Oh.. I was actually thinking of this before last time, but then I was just too lazy to search for the software to use to stream on phone. xD End up buying DLink DSL-320L. hahaha. May try soon after I plan it out and see. Hehehe. I do have a spare ryzen 3 1200 lying around. hahaha. But need new mobo, ram, casing etc. xD Hard disks would cost the most though. XD Both my 8TB and 4TB is worth RM1.5k. hahaa.
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but amd chipset only allows raid 10 (raid 1+0) so u loose half of your total hdd capacity for mirror.
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post Apr 10 2020, 01:21 PM

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Is it stable if 1 SSD and 1 HDD pair in 2 bays but of cause not raid 1 mirror setting?

SSD for important photo and document storage while HDD for media?

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post Apr 10 2020, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(chuah_ph @ Apr 10 2020, 01:21 PM)
Is it stable if 1 SSD and 1 HDD pair in 2 bays but of cause not raid 1 mirror setting?

SSD for important photo and document storage while HDD for media?

Thx
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You don't store important photo in SSD, or any single storage, you store important stuff in multiple HDD, external HDD, cloud, NAS,
just in case one down, you still have other as backup.

SSD aren't immune file system corruption, lightning strike, human error (accidental format or deletion, lol) ect.
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post Apr 10 2020, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 10 2020, 01:32 PM)
You don't store important photo in SSD, or any single storage, you store important stuff in multiple HDD, external HDD, cloud, NAS,
just in case one down, you still have other as backup.

SSD aren't immune file system corruption, lightning strike, human error (accidental format or deletion, lol) ect.
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Multiple duplicate true to backup as I feel SSD more tahan than HDD in term of mechnical lifespan and bad sector....thx
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post Apr 10 2020, 02:40 PM

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NAS LAN link agreegate only for stabilize the txf or it will help to boast the transfer rate too?

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This post has been edited by chuah_ph: Apr 11 2020, 08:30 PM
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post Apr 10 2020, 05:28 PM

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MCO extended again... any good, reliable and on hand stock seller to recommended? If in PG lagi best!! thx
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post Apr 21 2020, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(chuah_ph @ Apr 9 2020, 01:47 PM)
Asus RT-AC88U with USB3.0 Flash Drive as FTP to store files but the transfer rate is superb slow even on 5Ghz 802.11ac mode with only avg 5-6MBps or even lower.
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I think there's something that limiting your transfer speed, maybe the flash drive, or FTP or you choose USB 2.0 mode on the router for compatibility.
Using 2.5 HDD I can easily get 60MBps transfer if using LAN or 20MBps if using 5ghz
Even if using NAS this will be the same speed that I'm getting. Well, 5ghz speed can double if I install the software on my PC to get 800mbps connection but I'm contend with 20MBps.

QUOTE(chuah_ph @ Apr 9 2020, 08:56 PM)
Wah...3.4k exceed my budget d hahah but 918+ really very keng hahah...nice setup buddy!! Thx
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To have decent NAS with 4 bays will cost almost 2k
depends on size, 2 HDD might cost 1k to 2k
PC as NAS maybe can save 1k but need to do everything DIY
It's not a cheap thing no matter PC or dedicated NAS.

One thing for sure is at least have RAID-1 on the system if go for PC or dedicated NAS. Having such system means you will have Terabytes of data, although the data might be unimportant or can be downloaded again it will be a hassle and time consuming if one of the HDD spoil. If you not gonna store Terabytes of data then you don't need to get PC or dedicated NAS
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post Apr 21 2020, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Apr 21 2020, 12:51 AM)
I think there's something that limiting your transfer speed, maybe the flash drive, or FTP or you choose USB 2.0 mode on the router for compatibility.
Using 2.5 HDD I can easily get 60MBps transfer if using LAN or 20MBps if using 5ghz
Even if using NAS this will be the same speed that I'm getting. Well, 5ghz speed can double if I install the software on my PC to get 800mbps connection but I'm contend with 20MBps.
To have decent NAS with 4 bays will cost almost 2k
depends on size, 2 HDD might cost 1k to 2k
PC as NAS maybe can save 1k but need to do everything DIY
It's not a cheap thing no matter PC or dedicated NAS.

One thing for sure is at least have RAID-1 on the system if go for PC or dedicated NAS. Having such system means you will have Terabytes of data, although the data might be unimportant or can be downloaded again it will be a hassle and time consuming if one of the HDD spoil. If you not gonna store Terabytes of data then you don't need to get PC or dedicated NAS
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Thx.
My flash drive or Ext HDD is USB 3.0.
Hardly can hit above 10MB if using 2.4Ghz as normally ~5MBps while 5Ghz maybe can hit ~15-20MB (higher if use laptop). I never try LAN yet but as per your info mean even NAS LAN also will not hit >60MBps?

Thx
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QUOTE(chuah_ph @ Apr 21 2020, 12:00 PM)
Thx.
My flash drive or Ext HDD is USB 3.0.
Hardly can hit above 10MB if using 2.4Ghz as normally ~5MBps while 5Ghz maybe can hit ~15-20MB (higher if use laptop). I never try LAN yet but as per your info mean even NAS LAN also will not hit >60MBps?

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Hard disk and storage media also plays a role. I could get 110MB/sec or almost 1Gbps on CAT6 LAN cable.
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post Apr 21 2020, 02:11 PM

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Use FREENAS

https://www.freenas.org/

easy to use and easy to setup.

just use 2nd hand or some old computer will do.

youtube got many tutorial just search will do.
or google it.

Transfer rate = 1Gbit per sec or around 115 - 120Mega byte per sec
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post Apr 21 2020, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(chuah_ph @ Apr 21 2020, 12:00 PM)
Thx.
My flash drive or Ext HDD is USB 3.0.
Hardly can hit above 10MB if using 2.4Ghz as normally ~5MBps while 5Ghz maybe can hit ~15-20MB (higher if use laptop). I never try LAN yet but as per your info mean even NAS LAN also will not hit >60MBps?

Thx
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My experience flash drive even if USB 3.0 the speed is not great. This is even flash drive directly connected to my PC.

No, on LAN easily can hit 60MBps. To hit 100MBps depends on situation, whether router got download anything, network traffic by other devices, even Windows or router issue also makes it cannot transfer at max speed. Sometimes after restart everything then can hit max speed. Router transfer to PC is easier to hit max speed while PC to router is slower.
I forgot to mention I'm using SAMBA for transfer, you using FTP so that might also give different result.
Also check if enable USB 2.0 mode on the router. That will cause the transfer to be slower.
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post Apr 21 2020, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Apr 21 2020, 05:57 PM)
My experience flash drive even if USB 3.0 the speed is not great. This is even flash drive directly connected to my PC.

No, on LAN easily can hit 60MBps. To hit 100MBps depends on situation, whether router got download anything, network traffic by other devices, even Windows or router issue also makes it cannot transfer at max speed. Sometimes after restart everything then can hit max speed. Router transfer to PC is easier to hit max speed while PC to router is slower.
I forgot to mention I'm using SAMBA for transfer, you using FTP so that might also give different result.
Also check if enable USB 2.0 mode on the router. That will cause the transfer to be slower.
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IC good info, thx a lot.


 

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