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andrekua2
post Apr 10 2020, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(versey @ Apr 9 2020, 07:32 AM)
nobody wants a i5 6500 now, no matter how cheap u sell, I see 3 months in LYN sales...still no takers.  laugh.gif

FYI, R3 2200G is about 10% faster than i5 6500, u see the point.  biggrin.gif
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Lyn got cheap sale? More often than not, buying in lyn just like buying new - 15% only. Why waste time?
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post Apr 10 2020, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 10 2020, 11:42 AM)
Problem is not LYN or not....
it's basically Intel no value since Ryzen hype.....
macam bagi free pun tak mau  laugh.gif
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No ppl sell cheap la... where got cheap? Only 2 cores Intel ppl throw. 4 cores still sell sky high price. If really cheap I would buy but no. All dreaming to change to Ryzen without much losses.
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post Apr 10 2020, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 10 2020, 11:48 AM)
then same as Nvidiot fag and apple fag.....
die die dont want to admit their overpriced toys are outclassed already....

Still remember when GTX970 asking price for 2nd hand was 1.5k  laugh.gif
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That's why I'm still using 3rd gen Core i5. Buy cpu RM120 better than being ripped by these sellers. Why would you buy 4 cores i5 around 500-600 when you can buy 6 cores Ryzen? Only negative about Ryzen is expensive board. I don't care last time you buy for a thousand or what, need to compare with current pricing and technology. Let them rot with their cpu.
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post Apr 10 2020, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 10 2020, 11:58 AM)
Actually 500-600 can get you 2nd hand complete system if you dont mind browsing full desktop section tongue.gif
mostly OEM opis PC, but still....it's not just CPU

as for Ryzen board, only X570 is expensive....X470 and B450 are very resonably priced IMO.
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Those oem ah... don't want. Crazy overpriced power supply. Like my uncle buy Lenovo, the special 14pin power supply. Luckily I browse Lazada and managed to find a shop near me that sell the converter. Ngam2 the shop also deal with used oem, probably that is why he stock them in case need to change psu.

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post Apr 10 2020, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 10 2020, 12:05 PM)
Cannot go wrong with any CPU after Phenom II and i5-2500 for gaming la.....
CPU demand havent really increased up to this point.
IMO, you upgrade mainly for platform features like NVMe only.
Otherwise, old i5-2500 can play any game just fine provided you pair with the right GPU
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Phenom2 cannot la...
Bought a phenom2 for my mom last time. Regret didn't bought Intel. Just slightly cheaper only but lots of problem. Heat is one, fan damn noisy. Secondly is it seem slow compared to comparable Intel. Also recommended uncle a unit but same problem. It doesn't age as well as Intel for whatever reason.
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post Apr 10 2020, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(gx_azam @ Apr 10 2020, 12:06 PM)
i hv stopped following master race. lazy to do research abt it. mine 4690k still rocks. so whos leading the race in cpu now?? is it true amd has surpassed intel?
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Hard to say who won. If Intel would just goto TSMC or Samsung then they would have 7nm die shrink. However Intel is too proud for that. Still with 14nm, 10nm next year IIRC. 7nm dont know when. AMD didnt win but TSMC played a big part.
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post Apr 10 2020, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 10 2020, 12:26 PM)
Ayam selling dual core Haswell at RM50. Cheaper than AliExpress. But nobody wants to buy.
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Like I said, people only dump dual core. Dual core is reaching bottleneck now. Windows now require quad core at the very least considering how much resources they consume.
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post Apr 10 2020, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ Apr 10 2020, 12:42 PM)
Not really, just go online and see the issues surrounding AMD processors, from micro stutters, to it not being optimize for specific application, to not as good battery life as intel (even though they are using smaller chip size).


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Bro,

Laptop AMD still stuck with Zen 1st gen. Even the latest one 3000 series is just a Zen+. 4000 series is Zen2 based which is the major leap but you have to wait until late Q2 or early Q3. 4000 series also mark 6 cores medium class instead of 4 cores. This is where it will start to shine.
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post Apr 10 2020, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 10 2020, 02:54 PM)
i don't see any bottleneck with daily web surfing and word processing. even LGA775 pentium is overkill for my dad to read online news.
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No... it had reached a turning point. I also got a 775 but it's a Q9650. It multitask better than my core i3 3220 when I used it to torrent and as HTPC. That's one of reason I bought a used 3570 to replace my i3. Chrome run smoother and audio stuttering that I experienced is gone.
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post Apr 11 2020, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ Apr 11 2020, 04:23 AM)
I think you don't get the point of the video, while amd is focusing on core count, intel is optimizing their processors so that it works better with  applications. Sort of a quality > quantity example.
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Bro,

You're right with Intel working with software developers to optimise apps using their special instruction like mmx, sse, whatever it is now.

However you need to know now that the game has changed. Software developers are starting to change their codes to share loads across multiple cores especially so gaming.

I think the fact that we had hit a wall helped Intel so much. The fact that we had to run heavy intensive rendering to showed how much faster Ryzen is compared to Intel is what helping Intel to stay in the game despite being so far behind.

In the past, I would not have doubted your arguments because Intel has better IPC numbers. Their single core performance still solid. However its not single or dual core works anymore. It's a world of >6 cores now whether you need it or not. Intel doesn't has anything that scales as well as Ryzen. AMD had taken the right step to combat ARM but Intel is still sleeping because they had the cash to cartel the whole PC industry to go along with it. PC industry need to wake up. It's not AMD vs Intel anymore. It's X86 vs RISC and thanks to AMD, they are still in the fight.

 

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