Considering to enter now, both also difficult.

Development wise, Verves Suites had been completed for few years and the performance are quite good, hence the asking price would be all factored in. Unless during this downturn, you're able to find a good price to enter.

Arte, a want to be development, lack of consistent buyers as they bought due to huge promotion package with almost zero fee to enter, some buyers will flip very soon but hard to do so bcz need to compete with developer's fancy package so many balance units.

If must buy, I go for Verves if there are units selling 10% below the record price transacted.