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initial.craig
post Jul 25 2007, 08:50 PM

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ahaha, if we got d money to buy all d speakers, then we wouldn't be thinking day and nights want to choose which one...

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post Jul 25 2007, 08:52 PM

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if it is the comparison between vs4121 and atp3, i will vote it for atp3
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post Jul 25 2007, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(yuheng @ Jul 25 2007, 08:52 PM)
if it is the comparison between vs4121 and atp3, i will vote it for atp3
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If it's the first gen ATP3, I'll vote for it but since we're talking about the current ATP3, I guess I'll prefer to VS4121 instead. The current ATP3 doesn't sound as good as the one last time, bunch is not that punchier and a little boomy. I happened to have an old ATP3 for comparison purposes.
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post Jul 26 2007, 08:02 PM

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After a visit to All It Hypermarket today, my fair answer is choosing ATP3 than BT3....I hear the clarity almost the same, AtP3 more booming and Bt3 is also less boomy than ATP3, But I believe when ATP3 turn loudly will lilttle distort or blur...than BT3
That is my comment, correct my meaning if wrong...
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post Jul 26 2007, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jul 25 2007, 06:31 PM)
yeah i like MX5021 because of the weight of vocal. and especially lower mid.
i found myself addicted to lowermid richness now a day.
any things sound less on that will automatically rejected.
such as stock koss. and that's why i go mod it.

you can hear more detail on 6021 because it's slightly emphasis on the bright side, hence give you impression of better detail. that's true.
but i just love more meaty mid. more solid more thick mid range. (don't get me wrong, not muffle type of vocal like 4121)
and that's the reason i got HD. =)

bass on 6021 and 5021 seems both fine for me.
6021 has more surround feeling as it using sort of inconcert thingy to produce surround sound, and stage like speaker setup.

let say we number the driver from top to down, 1-6

driver 3,4 produce mid
driver 2,5 producing mid + high
while driver 1,6 will produce brighter sound, together with mid+ high
so it will show a really obvious feeling of concert. not bad imho.
but for use as 2.1 setup which i listen to it not infront of it. MX5021 is better in my opinion.
i usually sit quite far from my speaker when i heard it. that's explain why 6021 is rejected. =) and AEGO M ROCKS on this.

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in that case, i do suggest u go for VS. ATP3 is a bit lack on gaming. the bass not enough oophmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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I dont find 6021 good lor. I prefer MX5021 and I used to own one cos of that.
Those micro drivers cant sing well lar.. seriously sounds thin.

MX5021 sattelite sounds a lot better.. not to mention it actually blend quite well with the sub. The sub sounds a bit loose but really can pack punch and thats why its THX'ed.


Added on July 26, 2007, 8:10 pmBTW for the price you paying, just look into Buy/Sell section lar. Someone selling CS21 for RM250 nego I think. I would say a step down on ACS48, but better than ATP3 or 4121.

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post Jul 26 2007, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jul 26 2007, 08:08 PM)
I dont find 6021 good lor. I prefer MX5021 and I used to own one cos of that.
Those micro drivers cant sing well lar.. seriously sounds thin.

MX5021 sattelite sounds a lot better.. not to mention it actually blend quite well with the sub. The sub sounds a bit loose but really can pack punch and thats why its THX'ed.


Added on July 26, 2007, 8:10 pmBTW for the price you paying, just look into Buy/Sell section lar. Someone selling CS21 for RM250 nego I think. I would say a step down on ACS48, but better than ATP3 or 4121.
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maybe we are attracted by the separation of the instrument sound.
but at the end of the story, this is jz my personal opinion and tastes laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jul 27 2007, 08:38 PM

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yeah, different ppl different ears, d most important is ur own preference...
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post Jul 27 2007, 09:02 PM

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i also prefer MX5021's sound than FX6021, not because the THX thingy, is because of the mid range from the satellite and the bass from the subwoofer it deliver

for ATP3 versus VS4121, of course ATP3 have much more better sound quality. VS4121 bass however is unacceptable, it is too much inaccurate, bloat and boomy

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post Jul 28 2007, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(yuheng @ Jul 26 2007, 09:11 PM)
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maybe we are attracted by the separation of the instrument sound.
but at the end of the story, this is jz my personal opinion and tastes laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Nah, there's nothing wrong with your persnal opinion and tastes because the FX6021 sounds quite good minus the heft price tag. If it was priced a little lower maybe in the region of RM400 to RM500, it will give other speakers a run of their money.

My friend played Akon's Konvicted on his FX6021, even though the FX6021 is on the bright side, it manages to push the hip hop song at its full glory with decent warmth. Some people like it sharp to be honest.

To be honest, FX6021 still sounded better than Altec Lansing's latest FX4021.
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post Jul 28 2007, 11:57 AM

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according to most of the comments,the ATP3 bass is less than the VS-4121?

if u got go to Subang Jaya SS15 there is a cyber cafe called 'Global Net'

one side using VS-4121 one side using ATP3

weird thin is when playing CS using the ATP3 speaker u can seriously feel the gunshots and stuff coming out from the sub at max bass but the VS-4121 u can hardly feel anything... -.-"

but sadly none of my frens own a ATP3 so can't make a proper comparism as the environment in cyber cafe is friggin noisy...

i personally own a VS-4121 though icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 28 2007, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Jul 28 2007, 11:57 AM)
according to most of the comments,the ATP3 bass is less than the VS-4121?

if u got go to Subang Jaya SS15 there is a cyber cafe called 'Global Net'

one side using VS-4121 one side using ATP3

weird thin is when playing CS using the ATP3 speaker u can seriously feel the gunshots and stuff coming out from the sub at max bass but the VS-4121 u can hardly feel anything... -.-"

but sadly none of my frens own a ATP3 so can't make a proper comparism as the environment in cyber cafe is friggin noisy...

i personally own a VS-4121 though icon_rolleyes.gif
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maybe two reason
1: the subwoofer of the ATP3 in the cybercafe is well positioned.
2. The ATP3 is older model, which has very high total power output.
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post Aug 1 2007, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Jul 28 2007, 11:57 AM)
according to most of the comments,the ATP3 bass is less than the VS-4121?

if u got go to Subang Jaya SS15 there is a cyber cafe called 'Global Net'

one side using VS-4121 one side using ATP3

weird thin is when playing CS using the ATP3 speaker u can seriously feel the gunshots and stuff coming out from the sub at max bass but the VS-4121 u can hardly feel anything... -.-"

but sadly none of my frens own a ATP3 so can't make a proper comparism as the environment in cyber cafe is friggin noisy...

i personally own a VS-4121 though icon_rolleyes.gif
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Well, the ATP3's subwoofer is down firing whereas the VS4121 is a long throw subwoofer but in a quiet environment, the VS4121 subwoofer is more boomy whereas ATP3's clarity is better especially in the mids and highs. Of course, I'm comparing this with the second generation ATP3.
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post Aug 19 2007, 02:55 AM

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I think VS4121 subwoofer + ATP3 satellite is a good mod... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

MX5021 is good if do little equalizer tuning...
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post Aug 20 2007, 12:30 AM

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Many ppl say Thx is good but I quite confused...my Z2300 also got that THX but sound like....I dont wan to say it either...

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post Aug 20 2007, 12:33 AM

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THX is a official certification on multimedia base rather than pure music

correct me if i m wrong.
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post Aug 20 2007, 01:31 AM

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if want strong bass = 4121 , if want clarity sound = atp3.....
for my personal experienced......
60% 4121 bass = 100% ATP3 bass
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post Aug 20 2007, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(yuheng @ Aug 20 2007, 12:33 AM)
THX is a official certification on multimedia base rather than pure music

correct me if i m wrong.
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i dunno waht is multimedia base lol, but i think thx is bout movies.. y'know in cinemas b4 a movie starts it'll say THX
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post Aug 20 2007, 02:56 PM

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THX before the movie means they're telling you

THX (Thanks) for watching =)

lolz,
anyways, IMHO, THX is just a marketing gimmick. With the THX certification, the product price can be jacked up way beyond what it is actually worth. I believe most of us here that like the MX5021 is not due to the THX, but the sound of it.

As the matter in fact, the mx5021 is the only multimedia speaker with the THX certification that i like, the rest (Logitech Z2300/5400/5500) are just a bunch of over-bassed/RMS speaker. They are loud, wayy too loud. I didnt even get the chance to go for more than half of the volume knob at home, even at 1/3, my phone will start ringing within seconds and someone would yell SHUT UP!!! sweat.gif

If you do own a soundproofed room, or that you live miles away from your next neighbor, then u would enjoy the loudness of these speakers =)
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post Aug 20 2007, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Aug 20 2007, 02:56 PM)
THX before the movie means they're telling you

THX (Thanks) for watching =)

lolz,
anyways, IMHO, THX is just a marketing gimmick. With the THX certification, the product price can be jacked up way beyond what it is actually worth. I believe most of us here that like the MX5021 is not due to the THX, but the sound of it.

As the matter in fact, the mx5021 is the only multimedia speaker with the THX certification that i like, the rest (Logitech Z2300/5400/5500) are just a bunch of over-bassed/RMS speaker. They are loud, wayy too loud. I didnt even get the chance to go for more than half of the volume knob at home, even at 1/3, my phone will start ringing within seconds and someone would yell SHUT UP!!! sweat.gif

If you do own a soundproofed room, or that you live miles away from your next neighbor, then u would enjoy the loudness of these speakers =)
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i would not think it is pure marketing gimmick, in order for u to get a THX cert is not as easy as apply/approved.

THX qualified speaker should be great in certain fields but not music, it should be movie,gaming....so call multimedia base.
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post Aug 20 2007, 06:09 PM

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VS4121 has crazy bass. Bass too overwhelming that will blow the whole house. I mean the music cant even be heard.

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