Yes this is when you start projecting delusional projections on people who does not fit your world view, first claiming I am an agent and now claiming I am a buyer. Trying to build a strawmen argument here are you?

I am none of the above. I weigh the pros and cons and I discuss about potential. Unlike you, hypocritically negative about this project by only highlighting negatives and peep squeak when positives stares back at you (examples of the hypocrisy? Others say: double glazed windows, you: no comment. Other say: Look, it doesn't make sense to invest in the sky deck as it not profitable. you: really, there is a sky deck, show me the evidence. Others: Oh, I thought you know it all?)

We are here to discuss the project, be it things that has been commited to paper, or things that seems to be true but it's speculative, or potential pitfalls of the project or potential opportunities for the project

You overwhelmingly apparent naysaying of this project only reflects your inherent bias. Your feeble attempts at sowing doubt in my optimism by painting me as an agent or a buyer makes it doubly apparent of some agenda

if EXSIM is creative enough and smart about it, they should make the rock face an attraction.

the demarcation of DCP area in the public domain does indicated that DCP might include a small strip to the cliff edge of the said rock face.

An entrepeunerial mind can even make this an adventure park for rock climbing.

As for the water falls, it just having pumps. Even Seresta have an artificial waterfall in that development

More information based on a couple of renditions available in the public domain

4. Existing road access via Damansara Perdana
3. Loop over Sky Deck to front side of Empire City
2. Loop over Sky Deck to back side of Empire City
1. Existing underpass that runs under LDP

If this comes to fruition, then there will be options for future DCP residents to conveniently link up to LDP or DASH or
Penchala SPRINT

P.S. From attached image no. 1 you can also see that road no. 3 has a direct access ramp off into DCP for LDP heading north

Look in the mirror man. And read my posts diligently

In short, you attacked and made accusations. I merely posited an opinion about the potential of the rock face artist impression I explained and questioned your motivations

Go figure. The sky deck construction is so big and so prominent it's hard to miss. You're a facts guy right, before you open your mouth and shoot your guns, go do a site visit

I brought up the sky deck because it can be correlated to a point you insist if making, you posited that "no developer will spend the money to build something they cannot sell". The sky deck is precisely this investment that the developer is making despite it not even in any official brochures for the phase 1 to 4

In fact the sky deck only exists in artist impressions

Like I said, it is not the end until the fat lady sings. You're in actual fact missing the forest for the trees. It is true that a developer will act if it makes business sense. And to me, the sky deck makes perfect business sense, so too for the even much cheaper facilities that can be built on the rock face that makes up the artists impressions that you are so anal about

Like I said, I have been clear that I am making deductions based on the opportunity value of the rock face

In contrast you're making bold claims of IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN based on deductions. So much for evidence and facts.

You clearly are sub par when it comes to comprehension. Or is it because your warped logic and ego has clouded your mind

You know what, all this talk about no evidence of the sky deck. Just a cursory search in Google Earth would already have shown you the exact documentation and actual pics of the earliest structures of this sky deck being built almost 1.5 years ago.

It's now fully covered and still being constructed, you can experienced it yourself if you happen to travel south or north bound, it is a couple of short km from the Penchala LDP toll .

At this construction is smack exactly at where the sky deck should be according to the "unofficial" " unauthorized" "artist impression" renditions of the sky deck in the public domains

Some might say it is "hence not fact (according to some)" because there's no EXSIM logo, but it's all there in the metal, both in scale and size and actual construction

Do a site recce if you wish to consider this development.

Naysayers and agents alike can't be trusted 100%, even my opinions should be looked upon with your own analysis. Even if you're at home in front of a computer due to the pandemic, as I have already shown you a couple of times in this thread, that you still can form your own analysis, Google can be your tool. So are the news like the Edge which focuses on the business profiles and developments of these developers.

There is always pros and cons to a development, but there is also always a development that fits your needs and requirements. Who doesn't want to stay at multimillion sought after locales with seemingly littlr to no cons, and tons of upsides. But can everybody afford such dreams or excesses?

There are a lot of downsides to this development. I too would not shortlist this development as it is now. But at the same time there is also plenty of opportunity too to be had. It all depends on your portfolio, your capability and your risk considerations. It also depends on how you move the collective voice to force the hand of the developer or the town planning authorities.

Do a site recce. Form your own opinions.

And when you see extremes in opinions, positive or negative, treat it like a red flag, it's likely just a overbearing keyboard warrior trying to peddle an agenda or someone stuck in their own rut of their own bad experience, and trying to make it toxic for others too

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You didn't attack me?  search your own posts . Use the term "property agent" and then the term "just because you are a buyer" and then the phrase "Letting your imagination run wild yea??"  It's obvious you're trying to sow doubt by making a me strawman of your favorite punch bags

I already pointed you to the correlation. You made a strong claim "IT WILL NOT HAPPEN" based on a motley of presumptions that can be summed up as "a developer will not build something they cannot ..." I posited that EXSIM building the sky deck (that they cannot sell) is the obvious counter to this presumption

Moreover, you often make a second presumption that any artist impressions without the developer's "stamp" is not to be believed. Again this presumption falls apart in the context of the sky deck. Its not on any material with EXSIM's "stamp" on it

I am no problems with you making presumptions, but to make snarky comments and color and belittle other's presumptions/speculations and then go around being holier that thou making equally presumptuous claims "IT WILL NOT HAPPEN"  that's hypocrisy, better learn to admit that

Same hypocrisy when you make bold claims (ostensibly based on facts and evidence) when clearly you have not even visited the site. Can be extrapolated by your total ignorance to the fact that the sky deck is being built.

It is well within my rights to communicate in my own way. It is obnoxious of you to try to make another strawmen attack (trying to paint me as elitist perhaps?).  I think my use of vocabulary is within the bounds of being reasonable. If you can't fathom some of my vocabulary, there is always Google translate.

sow doubt by making a me strawman of your favorite punch bags??

The promise of easy connectivity and accessibility from your doorstep to wherever life brings you. Located at the intersection of several key highways, D’Cosmos Residences is supported by a network of access roads and various highways like the Lebuhraya Damansara-Puchong (LDP), Penchala Link, soon-to-be completed DASH Highway, Jalan PJU 8/8, Jalan Damansara and proposed link roads.

GO read your own posts dude. The context is clear. There is no other implied meaning other than to paint me as a buyer or a agent that is "making make belief" to "sell falsehoods"

Letting your imagination run wild is an attack?? Of course it is, its an attempt to belittle, especially when read together with the full text of your comment. If you still don't get it, I'll hazard an elaboration, IMO it is a comment that is implied to get persons to  contrast my "fanciful imaginations" to your "-supposedly- rock solid evidence based 'IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN' claim" .... It is nothing short of an infantile attempt at solicitating brownie points and popular support. But alas, it missed the point. The intention of my comments was to point out the potential opportunity of the rock wall. In your own warped logic, you lumped me together with "agents - selling falsehoods"

Read my posts, I am discussing possibilities with thread audiences, unlike you, which I will onforth call the the 'IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN" hypocritical prophet.

Yes, very rich, can't respond to intellectual challenges, deflect by attacking my language and "idioms". Nice try, this is not Trump America you know. Infantile attempt at debate

Try to convince a logical observer that the structures I just showed are "pedestrian". A sky deck can be classified as pedestrian too, I would opine that its a creative way to exploit legal loopholes for town planning approval.

before you open your mouth and shoot your guns

It's obvious you're trying to sow doubt by making a me strawman of your favorite punch bags

Like I said resorting to semantics in your retort? It's infantile. It's what we did call a red herring fallacy. Diversions doesn't work. I've already pointed out your hypocrisy. That enough is clear for all to see

And get your warped logic straight. I am and has been very clear with my comments and opinions on the rock wall and the parks, waterfalls, climbing attraction. I have never once claimed it will be built, I only pointed it out as an opportunity that the developer can activate. If they choose too. I've already mentioned this thrice, go and read my comments word for word.

Do not project your personal bias or comprehension inadequacies or fallacies onto the my comments on the rock wall.

I did not claim it is official. Nor did I say Exsim will build it. It's all in your mind. Get that straight

The very fact you attempted to "paint" me, first, as a agent, and then as a "aloof" buyer, all as an attempt to substantiate your arguments, is telling.

I can tell you straight that these incorrect interpretation of my comments and logical fallacies is all in your mind and very clear for all to see. You're making incorrect projections of perceived notions onto my comments.

I feel it's likely because of your internal "dislike" of this development. I won't speculate further, but your overt angst and negativity are clear as day. 

Phrases and expressions? Make uup phrases?????

Again do not project your own inadequacies onto my abilities.

Go do a simple Google research on Wikipedia or better yet, Merriam Webster or Oxford Dictionary.

Practice what you preach. Look up on the actual meanings of "logical fallacies" and idiomatic terms like punching bags and straw man, stop and study before you open your mouth and make a further fool of yourself with those infantile retorts......make up phrases..... By golly....

Your recalcitrance and incompetence is insufferable. If you're too lazy to do a simple search to find out what the phrases mean, then just say you don't care. Repeating the same "making up phrases" retort only reflects badly on you. Stop embarrassing yourself. Follow what you preach, I'll point you to a key word. Google "logical fallacies". I can assure you whatever you read on logical fallacies will benefit you.

At the same time, I repeat once again, do not project your own insecurity, your own distaste of this project, and your own preconceived notions on me and my comments.

I am not trying to convince anyone. Nor am I here to "sell" this project. There is not enough points in this project to convince me to invest or buy to stay.

I only entertain responding to you because  I am  trying to point out your err and at the same time to correct your incorrect notions of what I have been doing  - a discussion of some aspect of the project. It is unwarranted that you paint my discussions with your venomous preconceptions that taints and color what I have been doing with my comments

Unlike you, I do not set out to convince anyone, nor do I want to be overbearing in my opinions on others. I am merely stating my observations, deductions and an opinion, that, there the potential pitfalls and also potential opportunities to be had with this project

If you track actually my comments on this thread. You will find that  I am one of the few who brought forth an pro and cons analysis of the topology of the site, I also posited an analysis that D'Erica has more upsides than the other phases. I am also the one who bring in the info if the MBPJ town planning (4th amendment) and its potential impact. I am among the first who found out and shared info on the temple in front of D'Erica. I also commented on the downsides that is Flora Damansara and the mosque.

I also mentioned legacy follies and bad rep linked to Mammoth Empire's incompetence with Empire City, and the substandard wreak that is Empire City. I am just as happy to share positive  info about the recent cash infusion for Empire City Mall...that might go on to salvage Empire City Mall and all the owners who have invested in that project.

This is what I would consider productive discussions and information sharing.

You claim to be all evidence based and fact basedin all your comments, but I find that you gleefully repeat and highlight any downsides of this project, but when challenged with positives on the project, your go to reactions does not jive with your self annointed claims that you are fact based and unbiased. - this part, it is my observation and conclusion based in all your responses and retorts

That's probably also the motivating reason I entertain your retorts and responses. I want to point you to your err and your veil. And hope you reflect on that. Nothing more, nothing less.

I do not need your, or anyone elses' acknowledgement or approval of what I bring forth to the table for discussion. Buyer and pundits can make up their own minds.

Sure suit yourself. Whatever you say.

Based on me profiling you, I think I have just the best advice for you. To save you the possible pain and anxiety , only go for projects that are already built and VPed. Better yet, only go for those that have VPed for at least five years for good measure. And also, I strongly recommend that when you buy your next house or property, only go for a development where the project is the last component in the masterplan. Follow this advice and you'll have to be the most unlucky person in the world for you to get a lemon. 👍😂😉

Also make sure you do a site recce before trying to invoke "facts" and promote your "fact based standards"

Also practice what you preach, don't speculate. Don't say IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, because doing so does not state any fact, but at best deductive extrapolation.

Here's something for you. I'll teach you it should have been done. Just rephrase your statement, you should instead say something like this "...based on my past observations of a, b, c, and d, I think is it is highly improbable that it will ever happen....."

This sentence suits the "fact based, evidence only" persona that you are trying to project on yourself. ☮️

Touche. Apply that advice to you, don't imagine things before the fact, " IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN" kononnya 😂😅😂

It's good advice my man, especially for you. Follow that advice, and you'll have little to no room to settle at speculation, guesswork, or developers short-changing you, because you'll have the whole masterplan committed, pre built, and physically in front of you to assess all you like. BEST PROJECT FOR YOU EVER!!! 😊🤗

It seems at face value, it is a fair opinion (you think I am an agent), that is only true if you base it on just one topic (rock face) that I talked about,

That said, but it is also fair opinion for me to say that you have colored your opinion with your preconceived notions without actually being fastidious at reading my posts. In the full context. Just because someone talked about upsides to a project, you automatically assumed I am an agent. You are equally as guilty as Predator in this context, you prejudge before being "upfront about it"

Like I said, I don't sell properties. I buy them.

I have been clear in my posts, I discussed the rock face as an opportunity to be activated. I did not say it is definitely to be built.

Of course, anyone could be blindsided by information we are not aware of, we don't know what we don't know. How about the times I talked about the downsides of a project? Now then, do you automatically assume I am not an agent because I spoke of downsides

Well, I don't know what I don't know. Have the sky deck been heavily marketed before? I did not notice. But it's rather ironic isn't it? If it's has been heavily marketed before? Then it's ironic Predator (the fact based and evidence only prophet) did not notice it.

Well, what I do know about the sky deck, it is not on the EXSIM don't publish any progress updates, or post pictures of the actual construction. Nor is it in the newspapers or marketing material for all the current DCP phases. So, based on the same benchmark that Predator has set, it is highly "unlikely" it is a EXSIM authorised information, .....😂😅 Is that it? @Predator

Anyway, I mentioned the "possible" sky deck for two reasons. (1)  had a quick Google map trip. (2) I am pointing out Predators's logical fallacies when he/she ridicules my discussion on the potential of the rock face as a "fantasy" but indulge in his/her own "fanciful extrapolation" that IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. The sky deck topic also served to show that Predator did not do a site recce, and is not the all-knowing and fastidious about facts "persona" that she/he claims to be.

As for my posts in the sky deck, I only discussed what I saw driving along LDP, what I saw documented in Google Maps last night and how these actual constructions correlated really well with the illustrations and marketing material relevant to the sky deck

But the other main premise to the sky deck topic also revolves around Predators's thesis that IT WILL NEVER BE BUILT if it does not serve commercial purpose for EXSIM to sell something. The SKY DECK is therefore an example that runs counter to this thesis

By all means of extrapolation, the sky deck will likely be much more expensive than any sort of simples structures that are the artist impressions circulated about the "park" at the rock face

So in this regards, what make you so sure that EXSIM wouldn't consider it as a potential marketing tool to be activated in the near or far future.

That said, I reiterate, I DID NOT SAY EXSIM WILL BUILD THE ROCK FACE PARK, I merely posited that it's a special opportunity that seems dumb for EXSIM not to use

TOTALLY AGREE 👍🏹🏹📈 NO COMMERCIAL ENTITY WILL BUILD SOMETHING IF IT DOES NOT MAKE BUSINESS SENSE

Imagine... After rushing out 6 phases of residentials, the existing  marketing propositions are running stale and old.... but now EXSIM need to build commericial phases. In the past, they could leverage Empire City Mall, Sky Deck... Etc. The marketing department needs something snazzy new to attract the imagination of prospective buyers. The shareholders are running impatient. Sales rates are dropping. Competitors are coming up with new shiny things.  I wonder what else can the marketing department pull out from the hat to spruce up the value proposition for the new commercial phases....? Free park maybe? How about "Kuala Lumpur's one and only rock face park?"!!!!!!!!!!

Since we are dealing with the "hypothetical" let you imagination run wild 😂😂😂😂 IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN KONONNYA.

One have to wonder why SUNWAY have to spend so much additional money to spruce up SUNWAY X PARK SOUTH QUAY, after the fact that SUNWAY PYRAMID and SUNWAY LAGOON and their original master plan?, major attractions and ongoing success is just a stone throw away from the new Sunway Waterfront residential and commercial phases ? Why spend more than necessary?

OMIGOSH, Why is SUNWAY being  so silly?!!!😂😂😂 Don't they know "the developers are for profit organisation..... "😂😂😂 Why are they "build that shit as an after thought... ", 😂😂😂 it's totally crazy, right?!!!😂😂😂 Why could the SUNWAY executives not wonder " who will manage your so called South quay X adventure park and that South quay lake waterfall park...."😂😂😂 "imagining the whole shebang will be maintained by the municipal (yeah right... they are going to use public funds to maintain a high end high class park like South quay......" 😂😂😂BUT IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN, BUT SOMEHOW SOUTH QUAY PARK exists after the fact that is the master plan, after so many years, why?

WHY even build loss making SUNWAY BRT😂😂😂. SUNWAY MUST BE CRAZY.... THE WORLD MUST BE CRAZY....

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.... KONONNYA

enjoy............ What fanciful extrapolation you have, Predator, what big claims (negative speculation) before the fact.

I have to wonder, how is your negative speculation any different from positive speculation? Isn't it speculation all the same?

It is never over until the fat lady sings.

It was suppose to make us laugh silly 😂😂😂 can't fathom why you miss it , it's suppose to be rhetorical satire, which I wrote in an attempt to allow you to see and to realise your own (pathological) logical fallacies and reasoning bottlenecks

Like I said,
I have to wonder, how is your negative speculation any different from positive speculation? Isn't it speculation all the same?

That's said, for the umpteenth time, I really gotta say, your inability with reading and comprehension is insufferable

Or perhaps, I guess it is done purposefully, avoiding arguments that you can't reply. It could be a case of cherry picking what seems to work for your argument or ego driven denial

First, you missed the first point (or warped it to suit your way) Sunway Lagoon, Sunway Pyramid, Sunway Education, Sunway Hospital etc. Was part of the original master plan

Second you missed Sunway South Quay Lake, Sunway Lake, X PARK which came later and addition to the their master plan. This point you conveniently skipped (purposeful slip of mind perhaps, becaus eit doesn't work for your argument). It is meant to show you that your negative presumptions that a developer would not add attractions or facilities or value propositions after the fact (original master plan). All of which involves tons of sunk additional cost (after the original master plan) to activate and only then can these new value propositions can be used as a marketing tool to market further expansion of their development (business sense)

Third, you wholly skipped the other example that is Genting

And fourth BRT is after the fact that was Sunway's original plan. Does it make business sense (if profit taking is involved), nope, it's a loss making endeavour. So what is the business sense for putting additional money into the BRT?  I ENCOURAGE YOU REFLECT ON YOUR OWN QUESTION. THINK HARDER WHY SUNWAY BUILD THE BRT? EVEN IT IS LOSS MAKING. WHY WOULD A PROPERTY DEVELOPER INDULGE IN SUNK COSTS TO BUILD A LOSS MAKING FACILITY AND PROJECT? 😂😂😂

Fifth, Sunway Lagoon is a money making park, so why can't a feature at the rock face not be a money making park? I can't fathom your logic here. Even a couple of simple cheap structures can be rented out as cafes. What's more if someone makes a rock climbing park.

Sixth, you skipped the entrepeunerial example that's is Genting Highlands. When a natural feature or location has potential opportunity, it just takes an idea, investment, and perserverance to activate it. In contrast to Genting, anything at the rock face would be way cheaper..even if EXSIM doesn't want to build it, they can invite others to build it. imagine Legoland or art centre at Sentul Park or Universal Studios at Genting (now defunct, fallout and switched to another vendor).

Like I said, a few posts before. You have something amiss in your brain apparent from your overt negative speculations of this project. Or you really have a timid, extremely risk adverse mindset😂😂😂. Hence, I had opined the best property for you is a 5 year, fully built up, VPed property that preferably is the last component of any masterplan.🤔😆👍

Just to add the BRT project funding and cooperation between the council and SUNWAY is more complex than it is mentioned above, but the underlying point Imam trying to make remains valid. (1) it is a loss making endeavour (2) it is an endeavour after the fact (after the original master plan. (3) Sunway funded the project in part (sunken cost), (4) Sunway is also maintaining BRT out of pocket in part and  (5) the BRT is built by Sunway because there is also other factors that makes business sense (a point I am making) other than just the simple notion that it has to be profitable or not cost adverse before a property developer will ever consider funding it (and I point out that this logical fallacy that has been repeatedly made by Predator)

You still fail to see the logical fallacy in your arguments

Your premise is that any sort of feature at the rock face will never happen

And the Sunway BRT, Sunway South Quay, X PARK is clear scenarios that indicate the simple fact. When it makes business sense, any one will invest to activate the potential

Be it on the scale of TOD, town planning, master plan or even a Taman. You are setting up a slippery slope fallacy by saying that the DCP SCENARIO is incomparable

Genting did not sell off land to get a vendor to build a park inside Genting property. Genting is also pairing new investment/joint ventures into new facilities/attractions/value propositions with expansion and growth to its existing development

UNDERATAND THIS. THERE IS NO FACTS AND EVIDENCE in your argument. It is mere speculation based on extrapolation

The very fact you selectively reference Metropark while selectively reject Sunway is clear to see that you are dwelling in logical fallacies and confirmation bias

The fact EXSIM go into a JV with Mammoth empire to "save" Empire City Mall and "eat" DCP is already counter to the premise you are making - that EXSIM will only out in money for things they can sell.

Now, I posit you the rhetorical question to expose your err -

- Why put in money into Empire City Mall when they can't sell it?
- Why put in money into the Sky Deck Garden when they are not selling it?
- And hence why can't they get into a scenario where they either build the small "artist impression" (a few structures as an attraction, marketing tool, rent out income) or build something even fancier with JVs or vendors?

THINK THROUGH THESE LOGICAL FALLACIES

THERE IS NO FACTS AND EVIDENCE IN YOUR ARGUMENTS. IT IS SPECULATION AGAINST THE IDEA BASED ON PREMISES AND EXTRAPOLATION - Which I have duly deconstructed, elaborated and explained that it is just as it is - speculation that is a negative pov

I didn't say it is wrong. I only say it is not the only scenario

Hence IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN is just a speculative assesement.

By the way, I have just run a quick check on the original BRT proposal documents and press releases on BRT.

BRT IS NOT A TOD nor has it been marketed as a TOD by Sunway at the time of its vision and construction

There is a few articles of proposals (3 years after construction) to Prasarana to reduce BRT fares by some developers (not Sunway) to try to make it some form of TOD, nothing after that

  Don't make up imaginary facts
ARE YOU TRUMP WITH "ALT FACTS"¿ 😂😂😂

P.S. you are imagining things too - from the get go I have explored the idea that is the "artist impressions", as well as expanded on it to say it has potential to be made to an even more attractive proposition - like a rock climbing park by entrepeunerial individuals, EXSIM or partners - fact check my statements and go read all my post - DON'T TAKE CREDIT WHEN IT IS NOT DUE.

Again, selective interpretation and deflecting ... what's even more  worse is you peddle the falsehood that BRT is a TOD. It is not. Own up to that. You can't have alternative facts when it does not suit your worldview.

Like I said I had already elaborated what the BRT example is aimed at. Its only four post up. Any body can see that.

Dismissing valid points by shouting "its going no where.."  is in actual fact another logical fallacy, its called false dichotomy. Worse, it escapism

You can be convincing if you stuck to addressing the points I made, Mr FACTS AND EVIDENCE      . Saying "its going no where........" is empty and stinks of escapism

Escaping is not going make your point any better. Its cognitive dissonance.

Also your premise and speculation IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN is based on what in research we call McNamara's fallacy

This I can agree. It applies to all developers and developments. And businesses in general. It is all about up-marketing and bottom line

But that is besides the point. There's a reason property investors are called pundits. We assess based on existing value propositions and future opportunities.

Anyway, your statement = sky high expectations on exsimms delivery of the project. I hope this is a personal opinion, and not the I AM FACTS AND EVIDENCE sort of pronouncement that Predator makes.

Its a valid opinion. But if we have to be objective to the level of "FACTS AND EVIDENCE" (standard demanded by Predator), to put it simply, in research we sometimes see such generalisations as Simpson's paradox and false dichotomy

Because you are bent at peddling your own version. Doing the forum a service by pointing out the err in your attacks and overbearing proclamations on anything that does not suit your negative agenda

Like I have clearly put it. If anyone follows each and every post you make on this thread, we can see a pattern, you are indifferent to outright hostile to anything positive about this project, but are quick to point out and glee at anything negative

I can understand the motivation to deter fanciful up-marketing by agents, but to syte on and belittle others that share a positive view is what warrants a public whack- a-mole

What I found is even more wanting. For a person who proclaims that you're mall about EVIDENCE and FACTS, you totally missed the sky deck and also all the other road connectivity being built. You also  did not do a site recce.... Add this all up

I believe audiences and new visitors need to be brought to their attention of your pessimistic bias (to active discouragement of this project that's based on a motley of truths, half-truths, active sabotage and poor understanding of the project)  - all these should be brought not the attention of unsuspecting audiences

It's so bad it's like you're the anti-salemen (a pun based on the moniker anti-Christ)

You are not FACT AND EVIDENCE based as you so proclaim

You don't need to keep repeating Metropark like a broken record. I've have already posited my POV that runs counter to this POV and showed plenty of valid points in more than one reply post, that your POV is one scenario but not the only scenario

And stop using the I'M ALL FACTS AND EVIDENCE, moniker-bullshit. I've shown in more than 20 exchanges between you and me, that you are far from deserving to this self proclamation

I have been upfront about my statements and opinions. I am an investor and investor are pundits. When you invest, you look at existing value proposition, risks, and also future opportunities and future risks.

On this thread, I share both favourable and unfavourable facts and opinions on this project. Unlike you, I am objective in presenting information, facts and speculations alike.

I invite all audience to subject every one of my post to this examination. And then do the same for Predators's posts. That is enough to reveal your hypocrisy and your negative even to the degree of hostile bias to this project.

I too see plenty of downsides Vs upsides for this project. Which is why I did invest as it does not fit my investment criteria and risk profile.

But at the same time,I also see that this project is flawed but well suited for prospective buyers of other risk profiles, temperament or needs

Similarly, agents do up marketing because it is their role to sell. Point out their up-marketing all you wish. I'm pretty agreeable to that, esp if these agents peddle falsehoods

But what is your role? Master naysayer? I too am agreeable with that, because there needs to be a devil's advocate

But to make bold proclamations of EVIDENCE AND FACTS but not practice what you preach, you come across to me as just as bad as overpromising salesmen. You actively throws whatever mud you can find to detract the project, to what purpose or agenda I suppose? (This is my opinion, but I invite all audiences to look at every one of Predators's posts, and formulate your own opinion on Predator).