Do you have any pren/relative/yourself

In tilapia farm biz?

Just do it.

No need to be NATO.

No Action, Talk Only

i was in the fish business just a few years ago. Before your fish can even grow big enough to sell you need to invest at least 400k bare minimum.

After that you still need to find customers to buy your fish. not easy

Mane buleh.. nanti lugi how

Crab farm better.

Wat kind fish u did?
And eventually do you still continue?

invest in local jiken far easier to manage and less prone to enforcement officers

Belilah buatan Malay...oh wai

Why not if u have 1mil(at least) to burn.

Itu byk susah heard..

Plus crab easy die..

local FL not easy to invest
most jst install michat and no need go through okt

udang galah bro

udang galah iz the shitz nowdays

Nanti all ur fish keluar pattern then how??

Don't want lar itu very sinful type of biz..

Contact mane..mohon share pencerahan...

FL got season eh..they dont do daily...and sides, it s they contact u
not u contact them

so give u also no point if they are on resting period


most have personal life as normal jane doe as well - do they like to lay low wthout ppl knowing much

i think demand for freshwater fish in malaysia is not really good..i've seen most of the customers are those coming from nepal, bangladesh, vietnam..

This post has been edited by krizalid88_real: Mar 25 2020, 11:09 AM

Tilapia.
I did not.
I was the engineering side of things. Things like how to grow the fish and how to make the ponds etc under my jurisdiction. But even after you grow the fish, got to sell it. That one is not easy.

The main problem is this:
If you just want to farm and sell to midleman, then you must be very efficient because your profit margins will be razor thin. For example right now harga borong is RM14/kg. Means the middleman probably will buy from you at rm13 max. And that means you as farmer must have RM12 cost. Else you grow the fish for 6-8 months but can't even get rm1/kg profit.

If you want to distribute as well, you better find some good sales people. Because restaurants don't like to have their stock interrupted. So they tend to stick to 1 vendor. If you just start out, you have to somehow compete with those fellas in the market for 20 years. A lot of goodwill to catch up on. Not to mention that middleman/distributors have to invest additional for storage of live fishes and buying lorry/hire staff to deliver.

How much is the cost for 1kg of fish?

now they no more on wechat? michat time now?

i think they go with whatever suits them best
i am giving a general opinion saja

Depends on how much your fish feed cost.

High risk yeah high return too.

Buy 10k bottles of champagne.

Airlines, hotel, service industry requires. Got demand.

how to fight vietnam?

From what I heard from my friend the fish feed price per 20kg is around rm60. With that price still can untung?

May I know what's the reason you are not in this business anymore?

Hi TS wah banyak bullets nampak, main invest aje. High risk memang high return but ada high failure also.

Apsal u no work at fish farm dulu, learn selok-belok baik-baik then baru keluar buat sendiri ?

Bro., great to know that you're the man in this line. I am really keen to learn about growing tilapias not for commercial basis rather for personal consumption instead. Would be grateful for any leads, tips, directions.

I can't remember the exact pricing I calculated last time. But back then we buy fish feed by lorry. The volume buy by tonnes. If I'm not wrong the feed that time was about rm40+ per 20kg bag.

About 60% of your cost will come from buying fish food.

As for reason I quit... Maybe ambition too big, money not enough. We wanted to farm and distribute ourselves. Coz profit margin much higher. But sales was low. And farming itself is no easy task. Each cycle takes about 6-8 months to reach acceptable size.

crowded oledi, so do other fish species farming.

real farm maybe, lots of risks involving environment

mlm, money game ... don't bother

Sure go ahead and ask. If I know I will answer.

TS, why don't you start small by rearing freshwater catfish (those African catfish variety) in HDPE tanks first? Learn the ropes and see how it goes from there...

Patin better

newbie kasi chance la... plus keli got a bigger local market

A friend of mine. An iban. From what i learn he just dug a pond on the land next to his house, n bela around 12k of talapias inside there. Maybe will try ask him more about cost n such if u interested.

Having a piece of land and good water supply is a big bonus in any aquaculture venture. Also, you friend should consider rearing tilapias in cages inside the pond for easier management and harvesting... and the mud smell lessen...

I think he also just started rearing it few months ago. Afaic, this is the 1st time he doing it. With no prior experience or anything. Told me since the land is not utilised, he just hire some ppl to dig it. Cost him around 10k just to dig the pond. N he said if the first batch berjaya, he'll dig up more ponds, since he own quite a big parcel of land in his kampung. Maybe by that time he'll only do it properly i guess.
I went to his house few times b4. That parcel of land, ada durian, ada pisang, ada macam2. N yeah. It's huge.

Based on your experience which breed of fish offers the best food to meat conversion ratio and with the shortest rearing cycle, if I had phrased it correctly.

With marketing aside, what is the most problematic issues with cultivating fish eg bacteria or fungus infection etc etc ?

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Mar 25 2020, 12:17 PM

For you I would says YES, please by all means go ahead!

i my hometowm, talapia grows in longkang, tangkap je kat longkang

Tongsat

Papaya farm better

Owai

You must also stay in Country Heights I presume.

Tongsat is catfish right ?

Yes

Inb4 rm3/kg lel

my father friend running fish farms in open area (dunno what fish)

told us as long nothing happen to the fishes, it can be profitable like selling drugs

and his next plan is to farm fish inside his factory by having several huge water tanks

he's rich already, so retiring below age 55 and doing fish farming

Best food to meat ratio. I'd say keli. Coz those fishes eat anything and don't require much space. Also keli maturity cycle much faster. But the price is even more competitive.

-what is the most problematic issues with cultivating fish eg bacteria or fungus infection etc etc ?
This one hard to answer. It depends on individual situation. Sometimes your pond location not ideal. Or got predator like biawak. Or even different fish also got different problem.
If you don't want to bother just do keli or tilapia. Those 2 fish super hard to die one.

What I dont understand is this, catfish have dangerous and venomous barbs right ? When I was a kid in a fishing village, I seen grown men cry like babies bila tercucuk these barbs. How is it these days I see people trading in these fish like its nothing ? No more poisonous barbs ?

Different species. Got thai species and marehsia species. I think the one without barbs is thai one

Thanks bro. Will drop keli instead since I never grew up eating them and will focus on tilapia instead. Being a newbie I am sure there are tons of questions to ask but let me figure out what to ask first.

Oh thank you thank you. Baka lain.

River fish is generally smelly, probably due to the food they eat,
I have seen some farmer they bought the dead chicken to feed into their pond,

only if u can control your cost.

Chicken farm better

max can sell 30/kg worth or not?

Tilapia can sell RM 30/kg?

siham farm > all

I heard ppl just make a toilet above a pond, and the pond below rear fish

So the fish makan taik

Anyone can confirm?

normal jer, long long time ago babi also makan taik pun,manyak berkhasiat yo..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_toilet

But now pig alrdy farmed with proper food.... So now everyone can eated?
Irony is now fish eating human shitted.. so must ban?

thought it was like rm5 per kilo for tilapia

depend on size. the one you talking about is grade c. Usually 500g below.

Tq boss..you are big big saviour....

You r Mai man....

Bro., how many Grades are there for tilapias and what is the weight range ? Also there are couple of varieties of tilapia which variety is the best for production ?

3 grade.
c is for 500g below
b is 700g below.
A is 700g above.

The best variaty one is the gift tilapia. But chinese people don't like black colour tilapia. There's a big foreign player in semenyih rearing this breed. Only for export.

Local one all take the red tilapia.

Oh is this the same player who markets the fishes under the name TRAPIA ?

yea

Wah this operator must be damn big. Our ringgit no match against their currency liao.

Then the baka-baka anak ikan for this foreign player all imported ke or local from our Fisheries Department ?

If some1 put poison in ur farm...how much u loss ah??

need to check water quality.....
better you masuk kelas ... ada kelas and incentive from Perikanan

sendiri in house one.
they selective breeding over many generations. The meat is firmer, it grows faster and is bigger than usual.

Same concept like chicken. Last time chicken takes about 2-3 month from chick to adult ready for consumption. Nowadays chicken just need 1 month from chick to adult.

Did you buy the feed directly from producer? Or the feeds are imported?

viole nah jual ikan haha

Jiken better.

Lagi2 from vietnam

had to buy through intermediary.
feed is usually local. we have quite a few fish feed producers here with factories.

If you buy big enough you can buy straight from producer. But you have to buy way too much. You talking about 10-20 tons per order. Unless you're a big farm, you usually cannot buy that much.

Bro, MCO until 14/4, where got people go to jiken farm la dei. Now is worst time to open jiken farm.

jibai all jiken papaya farm all susah go.

Hw cum u knw so much

Most are actually scams

But why

i would recommend eel if you want to invest in fish farming

just that you need to look for japanese buyer

Eel.. bahaya woi...

People want your money, free, that's all.

cus i smart mah.
if wanna open new business, must rajin kan diri visit SME/agencies mia department.

ppl can tolong you, why susah2

Can I hug u... U go where I go where..

That I won't fall into hole

Trapia is not in semenyih. Their fish farm is in tasik temenggor. Heard a salesman during their peak their monthly feed consumption around 20k-30k bags feed. Now not anymore, maybe less than 10k

[Wah rili big operations woi

viole see this fella keluar pattern liao
nak manja2

Apa buleh buat..need folow semak ppl cari makan

why pattern no hug me?

Not that simple, before that you must have good quality eel first. Jap very fussy, thats why they imported expensive from japan. You Can?


BTW not every water can rear good japanese specs. I am not talking about food cost yet.

And also later eel keluarpattern hw?

Cuz u only wan hug Thai moi

I no discriminate. Can hug hug but didi no touching so #nohomo

Dafuq insaplar

Yes big operations, but now hardly heard their news anymore. Died down liao

As most of the A sized fish is consumed by chinese market, their black tilapia very difficult penetrate the local market.

-Most restaurant preferred red fish over black fish.
-90% restaurant want live fish. Dead fish different price.
(Due to the long journey from tasik temenggor travel to KL the fish cant survive very long)
-The flesh very lembik and tasteless cuz the fish is fed 24/7 so it can be sold in the market soonest possible. Ok la of cuz not 24/7 lah

Japanese super damn fussy when it comes to their fish.

hw u knw