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Buying Advice Which would you recommend?Also whats the diff?, NikonD80/D200
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TSAhBoiz
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Jul 23 2007, 08:31 PM, updated 19y ago
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Hi guys i would like to ask your advice on which camera to get because i know that the D80 has the majority of the D200 specs but is the D200 worth it than?D80?
Also whats the best price now for both of the models body only.
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R a D ! c 4 L
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Jul 23 2007, 08:46 PM
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in noise handling, D200 is certainly better than D80. D80 does 3 frames per sec. While the D200 does 5. D200 is solidly build, D80 is well build. And a very bright viewfinder.
Hmmm, not sure about the price though, but im sure the D200 cost 1.5k - 2k more.
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calvin_gsc
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Jul 23 2007, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(AhBoiz @ Jul 23 2007, 08:31 PM) Hi guys i would like to ask your advice on which camera to get because i know that the D80 has the majority of the D200 specs but is the D200 worth it than?D80? Also whats the best price now for both of the models body only. if you need to ask, you clearly don't need a Nikon D200.
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TSAhBoiz
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Jul 23 2007, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 23 2007, 09:15 PM) if you need to ask, you clearly don't need a Nikon D200.  you happy with your D80? im still searching for a cheap cheap D80 body..
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calvin_gsc
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Jul 23 2007, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(AhBoiz @ Jul 23 2007, 09:18 PM) you happy with your D80? im still searching for a cheap cheap D80 body.. I am definitely happy with my Nikon D80. Well, first of all, I don't need the performance of the Nikon D200. Secondly, $$ is a big issue for me when it comes to DSLR. So, I got myself a D80. have a read at here http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d80/vs-d200.htm it is explained in quite detail. QUOTE - D200 is a semi-pro/pro. D80 rest as amateurs good camera. - Color Matrix Metering: 1000 pixels RGB sensor(D200) vs 420 pixels RGB sensor(D80) - D200 uses compact flash memory cards. D80 uses SD memory cards. Compact flash is very useful If you are planning to upgrade to D2X or another future professional camera or simply comming from D70. (You don't have to buy again all your memory cards) - Shutter speed- 1/8000 for D200 and 1/4000 for D80. - Continuos shooting- 5 frame/s for D200 and 3 frame/s for D80. - Continuos shooting: 37 / 22 frames (JPEG / RAW) D200 vs 23 / 6 frames (JPEG / RAW) for D80. Please notice the difference in RAW. - D200 has a much more advanced interface, with external controls for nearly all functions, whereas the D80 (like the D70) relies more on interal menues. - Nikon just won the EISA awards - The D200 as the best camera 2006-2007. - Definitive more rigid body. D200 looks like a tank and D80 looks like a Jeep. - Lacking from the D80 is the "Non-CPU Lens Data" menu item found in the D200 and D2Xs, for entering information about non-CPU lenses, as well as the aperture-indexing finger that the D200 has for wide-open metering with older "AI" lenses. - D200 has Group Dynamic AF (Sports useful) and Closest Subject Priority Dynamic AF (useful for difficult front subjects with distracting background). http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...05044723AA0TwzDThis post has been edited by calvin_gsc: Jul 23 2007, 09:27 PM
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julchin_09
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Jul 24 2007, 12:28 AM
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Im not sure if you really need the D200 or not, but if you're serious and know your way with DSLRs and their settings, then the D200 would be the better cam. But these was what the review I read said and it would be overkill if you're not prepared... But still, the build quality and certain specs its has an edge over the D80 would be something every NIKON user would crave for, but with a Body RM1k + more than the D80, You should know where you're heading in this hobby before getting it. If, I was a NIKON Fan, I'd go for D200 and follow my heart and not my skill .....  ................................ This post has been edited by julchin_09: Jul 24 2007, 12:29 AM
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R a D ! c 4 L
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Jul 24 2007, 02:58 AM
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 23 2007, 09:15 PM) if you need to ask, you clearly don't need a Nikon D200.  and i never said that the D80 is a bad camera
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wlcling
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Jul 24 2007, 01:23 PM
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the D200 if you can afford it! The obvious differences are:- 1) Weather-proof body. It does feel like a tank though, but with the cost of extra weight. 2) 5fps !!! (This is particularly nice for burst shots to freeze motion & even bracketing while handholding). Combine it with a speedlight, and you are able to take 5fps with flash! <-- LoL, handle with care 3) Different neckstrap (haha!) If the above isn't too important, get the d80, and invest the money on your lenses instead...
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TSAhBoiz
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Jul 24 2007, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Jul 24 2007, 01:23 PM) the D200 if you can afford it! The obvious differences are:- 1) Weather-proof body. It does feel like a tank though, but with the cost of extra weight. 2) 5fps !!! (This is particularly nice for burst shots to freeze motion & even bracketing while handholding). Combine it with a speedlight, and you are able to take 5fps with flash! <-- LoL, handle with care 3) Different neckstrap (haha!) If the above isn't too important, get the d80, and invest the money on your lenses instead...  D200 and D80 has a big price jump though.. I would love to get a D200 if i can get it cheap coz it does fit my need more so..
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scotty
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Jul 25 2007, 01:51 AM
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some said d80 has more accurate WB. And better noise control. issit true?
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scorgio
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Jul 25 2007, 02:25 AM
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QUOTE(scotty @ Jul 25 2007, 01:51 AM) some said d80 has more accurate WB. And better noise control. issit true? WB not sure. But D80 does have a better noise control, more obvious if u compare at high ISO.
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julchin_09
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Jul 25 2007, 04:04 AM
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Issit due to the D80 Being a newer cam thus internally improved?
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Mavik
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Jul 25 2007, 11:05 AM
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Patience is a virtue
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If I am not wrong, I saw that a D80 body is around RM3.5k and a D200 body is around the range of RM4.8k
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wlcling
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Jul 25 2007, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(scotty @ Jul 25 2007, 01:51 AM) some said d80 has more accurate WB. And better noise control. issit true? I heard D200 has more accurate WB, but is still fooled indoors sometimes... not sure about noise though Added on July 25, 2007, 12:34 pmQUOTE(AhBoiz @ Jul 24 2007, 04:35 PM) D200 and D80 has a big price jump though.. I would love to get a D200 if i can get it cheap coz it does fit my need more so.. if it fits your needs, maybe try to get it second-hand... oh yah, there is a rumor* that the d200 will be replaced by a new model soon.... *Rumor rumor rumorThis post has been edited by wlcling: Jul 25 2007, 12:34 PM
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TSAhBoiz
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Jul 25 2007, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE if it fits your needs, maybe try to get it second-hand... oh yah, there is a rumor* that the d200 will be replaced by a new model soon.... *Rumor rumor rumoryea im looking for a second hand model but still with a warranty left. If it get replaced the price will kill you le..Summore the specs of the D200 are better than the D80 means if the D200 get replaced than the specs muz be wow?like d2x?or better? This post has been edited by AhBoiz: Jul 25 2007, 03:41 PM
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wlcling
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Jul 26 2007, 12:34 AM
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it's just rumor... so no point thinking too much about it...
just buy d200 or d80, go out and shoot-shoot-shoot and enjoy yourself! both ways, you can't go wrong...haha!
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R a D ! c 4 L
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Jul 26 2007, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Jul 25 2007, 12:27 PM) oh yah, there is a rumor* that the d200 will be replaced by a new model soon.... *Rumor rumor rumorD300 la D300! which will feature a full frame CCD/CMOS  rumors la of course  And D200's noise handling is better than D80 imo.
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scotty
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Jul 27 2007, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE(R a D ! c 4 L @ Jul 26 2007, 10:54 AM) D300 la D300! which will feature a full frame CCD/CMOS  rumors la of course  And D200's noise handling is better than D80 imo.  d200's noise handling better than d80? u sure bout this?
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TSAhBoiz
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Jul 27 2007, 11:07 PM
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Bros i need your help can you tell me if its worth it to buy a second hand D200body with 5months warranty left at RM4100?or what do you think the price should be? less than 7k shutter count..supposed to be in good condition..
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wlcling
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Jul 27 2007, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(AhBoiz @ Jul 27 2007, 11:07 PM) Bros i need your help can you tell me if its worth it to buy a second hand D200body with 5months warranty left at RM4100?or what do you think the price should be? less than 7k shutter count..supposed to be in good condition.. i think the price is ok if the condition is good...
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TSAhBoiz
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Jul 28 2007, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Jul 27 2007, 11:27 PM) i think the price is ok if the condition is good... ok thanks for your comment.. anyone else?
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calvin_gsc
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Jul 28 2007, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jul 25 2007, 02:25 AM) WB not sure. But D80 does have a better noise control, more obvious if u compare at high ISO. QUOTE(scotty @ Jul 27 2007, 02:47 AM) d200's noise handling better than d80? u sure bout this? I think this is untrue. D200 noise control better according to this test         For lowers ISOs, look for yourself here http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/dslr-comparison/us.htm#1600 Added on July 28, 2007, 3:18 pmQUOTE(AhBoiz @ Jul 28 2007, 12:32 AM) ok thanks for your comment.. anyone else? if got $$, go for the d200, you wont go wrong with it. You can't find the perfect dslr. Ourselves as photographers has to adapt to conditions and make the best out of the camera. This post has been edited by calvin_gsc: Jul 28 2007, 03:18 PM
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h_bib
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Jul 28 2007, 08:14 PM
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D200 going obsolete already,take D80 first while waiting for D200 replacement.
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TSAhBoiz
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Jul 28 2007, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(h_bib @ Jul 28 2007, 08:14 PM) D200 going obsolete already,take D80 first while waiting for D200 replacement. i doubt the D200 would go obsolete soon.. the specs are still very very usable and better than the D80. People are still choosing the D200 over the D80 if the have the cash..Besides if a higher model came out the price would probably be a killer and unreasonable compared to theD200 and D80.. Also i got my D200 today guys
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Gadget_Freak
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Jul 28 2007, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(AhBoiz @ Jul 28 2007, 10:47 PM) If i got the cash, i'll choose S5 over D200 as i dun need the faster fps
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julchin_09
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Jul 29 2007, 04:08 AM
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QUOTE(AhBoiz @ Jul 28 2007, 10:47 PM) Wow... you got the killer cam. Nice nice! What was the damage it incurred you? This post has been edited by julchin_09: Jul 29 2007, 04:09 AM
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h_bib
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Jul 29 2007, 12:09 PM
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Envy You...^^
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TSAhBoiz
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Jul 29 2007, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(julchin_09 @ Jul 29 2007, 04:08 AM) Wow... you got the killer cam. Nice nice! What was the damage it incurred you?  roti and water for few months  ..now need source second hand lens's..
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h_bib
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Jul 29 2007, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(AhBoiz @ Jul 29 2007, 04:51 PM) roti and water for few months  ..now need source second hand lens's..  Big Sacrifice man...
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calvin_gsc
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Jul 29 2007, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(AhBoiz @ Jul 29 2007, 04:51 PM) roti and water for few months  ..now need source second hand lens's..  You bought only body now? Can you share with us what are the things you bought, from where and what's the price you got. Thank you! So that we can share with others too.
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h_bib
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Jul 29 2007, 06:56 PM
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Yea..I'm curious too..
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TSAhBoiz
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Jul 29 2007, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 29 2007, 06:20 PM) You bought only body now? Can you share with us what are the things you bought, from where and what's the price you got. Thank you! So that we can share with others too. Yea i bought Body only since im doing underwater photography i dont need the kit lens(cheaper oso) I got everything which comes with the D200 Body and with 5months warranty for Rm4100.. Why u all so curious ar..
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wlcling
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Jul 30 2007, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(AhBoiz @ Jul 28 2007, 10:47 PM) Congrats!!! You won't regret it... QUOTE(Gadget_Freak @ Jul 28 2007, 11:11 PM) If i got the cash, i'll choose S5 over D200 as i dun need the faster fps if i got the cash, i'll love to have both... haha
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julchin_09
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Jul 30 2007, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(AhBoiz @ Jul 29 2007, 11:44 PM) Yea i bought Body only since im doing underwater photography i dont need the kit lens(cheaper oso) I got everything which comes with the D200 Body and with 5months warranty for Rm4100.. Why u all so curious ar..  Thats a unique field to specialise in. Im curious to know the price in order to better gather and understand market prices these days....... You can make use of these vital informations for future purchases.
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TSAhBoiz
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Jul 30 2007, 12:32 AM
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unique, addictive, different, harder  << This post has been edited by AhBoiz: Jul 30 2007, 12:32 AM
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Gadget_Freak
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Jul 30 2007, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Jul 30 2007, 12:19 AM) if i got the cash, i'll love to have both... haha
both or MKIII? or Mamiya?
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h_bib
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Jul 30 2007, 12:54 AM
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Cant wait to see you post ur underwater pics...
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scotty
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Jul 30 2007, 01:52 AM
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congrats bro. but u've made a wrong decision. firstly, do u know the cost of a underwater casing for d200? if i not mistaken, the casing itself is around 8k
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julchin_09
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Jul 30 2007, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE(scotty @ Jul 30 2007, 01:52 AM) congrats bro. but u've made a wrong decision. firstly, do u know the cost of a underwater casing for d200? if i not mistaken, the casing itself is around 8k   Oh my God! For Real? RM8k? Thats like almost using a Fuji S5 for housing.....
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scotty
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Jul 30 2007, 02:21 AM
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well, all i know is that the casing is around or more expensive that the body itself. for example an underwater casing for d2x/s cost u rm 12k. http://shashinki.com/shop/nexus-underwater...d2xs-p-486.htmland the price for d200 casing will be around 5k or more. http://www.ikelite.com/web_two/2d200nikon.html
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AlamakLor
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Jul 30 2007, 02:58 AM
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Look at all my stars!!
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Wanna go underwater isit? sap sap sui:  +  AhBoiz, I suppose you have the camera now and no lens? I got lenses but no camera
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wlcling
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Jul 30 2007, 03:00 AM
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then i hope threadstarter didn't think the d200 weatherproof casing means it's waterproof... lol
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TSAhBoiz
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Jul 30 2007, 04:08 PM
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Gadget_Freak
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Jul 30 2007, 04:09 PM
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good luck on ur saving
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