Here is a EVEN betting kick-back phenomenon observed in
real time roulette and most even chance games ie. Baccarat for example
if you see a streak of 5 or more RED comes out, it then breaks and goes once to the
opposite in this case its Black and will often immediately comes back to RED.

Let me think what kind of progression can we use to exploit this phenomenon

Sample from my favourite Casino:-




Table: 1
Date: 08.10.2007

*****************
N Z R

15 - B
35 - B
31 - B
22 - B
14 - R <- RED
11 - B <-- comes back to BLACK!
30 - R
12 - R
16 - R
18 - R
7 - R
27 - R
24- B < - BLACK
27 - R <-- comes back RED!
-- -- --
0
2 - B
4 - B
11 - B
3 - R
12 - R
18 - R
3 - R
34 - R
1 - R
-- -- --
32 - R
36 - R
8 - B
16 - R <-- comes back to RED!
11 - B
30 - R
36 - R
7 - R
16 - R
3 - R
1 - R
4 - B
23 - R <-- comes back to RED!
21 -R
7 - R
18 - R
20 - B
-- -- --
0
6 - B
2 - B
32 -R
29 - B
15 - B
28 - B
21 - R
31 - B


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Baccarat Table 6: -

Player
Banker
Banker
Player
Player
Banker
Banker
Player
Banker
Banker
Banker
Banker
Banker
Banker
Player
Banker <-- comes back to Banker!
Banker
Banker
Player
Banker
Player
Player
Player
Player
Player
Banker
Player <-- comes back to Player!
Player


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This post has been edited by shahjees: Oct 9 2007, 06:12 AM

all i see is old untie and uncle playing poker at starworld, must be world class huh

everyone knows that in roulette, all the outer bets are sucker bets, means that you will have to
win more times to cover a single loss. therefore, covering more numbers gives the player
a fatal illogical illusion that one would be having more chances of winning than they would lose.

here are the results of covering 24 numbers out of 36(+0) numbers on a real 40,000 actual spin:





from the chart you can see that you actually made a small profit of $70 on the first 16 spins
but by continuing to play the same method on a long run,
you would actualy be losing a staggering -$22,160!!!!!!

This post has been edited by shahjees: Oct 15 2007, 08:36 AM

lose real hard cash money and win virtually useless genting points,
what a smart way to play...

only in casino can we see the smartest and wealthiest person plays the dumbess strategy

in malaysia everthing is haram and illegal, can you tell or show us something which is legally done in malaysia?

hehehe, we all know that the casinos are undisputable bastards of all champions worldwide.
but it is getting interesting to learn that the casinos games, roulette specially have become
the punching bags for young internet savvy punters worldwide trying maximize the winnings when the odds are
NOT against them...

This post has been edited by shahjees: Dec 13 2007, 04:39 PM

yeah ... many of them never giveup they just keep playing and playing the same old losing technics again and again . .
they have all the traits of perfect losers regardless of how big or small their starting bankroll is

yes i have tested similar system to edwards, where the bets are placed randomly regardless of the last results, in fact
you can even try a basic simple chart and start your bets using BBPPBBPPBBPP which gives the same results using martingale,



Note the downward spikes are where the martingale bets takes place!
but as we know how dangereous it is by playing martingale, this system looks good at the begining,
but will eventually bust your bankroll in no time.


A slight modification to the martingale approach yields better results, but you'll not earn as much as
playing the risky martingale.



again some modification to this system should give you the much needed bust insurance,

cheers and happy punting!

I was the guy who posted the original test result in http://gambling.projectsydney.com
and in response to my post there, a lot of people including baccarat genius artenvivo, turbogenius and numerous other
gambling expert has adviced me on the high risk of playing this system using martingale,



yes this and your random system works and it seems to work because of the artificial effects from
martingale system.

we have however finally dropped the idea of using martingale and modified it to ride on fibonachi instead.
but after much discussion and debates, we've decided to drop this risky method.

wow, this thread is getting hot,
Hi edward, as a matter of fact you actually have not shown us here any evidence of your winning system,
i am game for it, please show the winnings!

Hi edward, sorry but i don't see your logic on letting the casino to win, please clarify

This post has been edited by shahjees: May 2 2008, 03:17 PM

Hi edward, sorry but i don't see your logic on letting the casino to win, please clarify

This post has been edited by shahjees: May 2 2008, 04:26 PM

yoo joehans, are you following victors system strictly or do you have better system now?
let me know m8!
this edwards system in no different than original lowrollers failed oppossite-opposite-same-same random method!

Hi edward, as a matter of fact you actually have not shown us here any evidence of your winning system,
after reading all this post and the way you boast here, how do we believe you?

anyway, i am game for it, please show the winnings!

This post has been edited by shahjees: May 11 2008, 05:34 PM

haiz...so many stupid clowns in this thread!

hi edwardng, if you have a winning system aka the holy grail i will be very happy and will definately congratulate and
would have thanks you for your excellent system.

you can read all my previous post in this thread and you'll see the amount of testing of betting system that we use to test a system
before playing using real money.

i have tested both your system16 and system32, your betting system was winning money for a few first bets,
and i was happy with the results but unfortunately in the end both system16 and system32 did not live up to the expectation
and it went down the scale. I know it will be hard for you to believe, but in gambling we have to expect the unexpected and
take this as part of gambling challenge improve the progression and you'll be ready with counter measures.

we have tested a similar system like yours last year and we modified martingale and use fibonachi 1-1-2-3-5-8 instead
the results are almost as good as using martingale, only fibo is less risky during the bad losing streaks.

please give it a try,
cheers and happy punting


This post has been edited by shahjees: May 18 2008, 09:01 AM

   found something new....coming soon  

This post has been edited by shahjees: May 23 2008, 06:14 AM