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jack2
post Jun 4 2020, 10:38 AM

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which insurance companies offer the best and cheapest insurance for medical and life insurance?
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post Jun 24 2020, 12:15 AM

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Where can buy insurance (medical card) online without going through agent and then get rebate?
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post Jun 24 2020, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 24 2020, 12:21 AM)
let me check it.

I am trying to buy for my sister who is OKU in "intelektual' but Manulife wanted her to do medical check up and premium is high.

I don't see there are any valid reasons for the needed to do medical check and impose high premium. Don't tell me intelektual has higher risk in all diseases.

Is this one kind of discrimination?

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post Jun 24 2020, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 24 2020, 01:04 AM)
if i can remember,...previously got discussed in lyn.... intellectually disabled may have difficulty getting medical cards ......
as most plans would have sort of exclusion like this....
psychotic, mental or nervous disorders, (including any neuroses and their physiological or psychosomatic manifestations);

but not sure about any latest amendment to it...
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Intellectual is due to lower IQ and not because of mental disorder etc.
jack2
post Jul 23 2020, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jul 12 2020, 11:09 AM)
Room 500
Annual Limit RM1 mil
No lifetime limit
Premium 4500 yearly
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This is cheap if for aged 69. Which insurance co?
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post Jul 23 2020, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(ahwai @ Jul 15 2020, 11:43 PM)
Mum
Room 350
Annual 750k
No lifetime limit
Yearly 1.7k

Dad
11k yearly
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Can PM me this plan for 1971 May?
jack2
post Aug 4 2020, 12:50 PM

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Prudential customer service is damn lousy and bad. If you did not login to your PruAccess for 1 year, your account is inactivated and you cant login until you need to call them for reactivation. No e-mail help is allowed. But when I called them, keep waiting ....

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This is really bad service and activation is not able to be done over e-mail. Don't tell me it is due to security reasons. This e-mail is the registered e-mail and I am not asking for password or reset password.
There is no monetary involved and financial loss if someone accesses the account.
I have been calling the number and keep waiting for more than 10 mins with no response and hearing the advertisements and announcement.
"Please hold for the next available consultants".
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post Sep 6 2020, 01:05 PM

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I applied medical insurance from Manulife for my sister who is OKU in Intelektual and the underwriter at first requested for

1. Statement for their panel doctor
2. Statement from usual visit doctor

During this process, I have visited the doctors many times because of human mistake etc...

Then now, they asked again to do blood test. I wonder why don't they request it once at all and not one by one. I have spent may times in bring my sister to do all of these.

How about if after done all this, they rejected? This is business and I pay the insurance premium for them to "insure" one.

Hence, I am looking for others companies which can access all at once without spending my time to do one by one.

Please PM me.
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post Sep 6 2020, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 6 2020, 01:35 PM)
There is no such insurance company that ask for everything in one shot.

The insurance underwriter will get a few reports first that is deemed necessary. If they need further investigation, they will request for follow up check up
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Not really. We have declared everything on her condition and they did not ask for medical check on blood.
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post Sep 6 2020, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Sep 6 2020, 01:05 PM)
I applied medical insurance from Manulife for my sister who is OKU in Intelektual and the underwriter at first requested for

1. Statement for their panel doctor
2. Statement from usual visit doctor

During this process, I have visited the doctors many times because of human mistake etc...

Then now, they asked again to do blood test. I wonder why don't they request it once at all and not one by one. I have spent may times in bring my sister to do all of these.

How about if after done all this, they rejected? This is business and I pay the insurance premium for them to "insure" one.

Hence, I am looking for others companies which can access all at once without spending my time to do one by one.

Please PM me.
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Probably i will go for life insurance for her.
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post Sep 6 2020, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclopes @ Sep 6 2020, 02:13 PM)
If at the initial stage of submitting the proposal, all health details given are adequate, the need for additional checkup may be minimized.
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We declared everything.

When we visited the panel doctor, the doctor did not ask for blood test but only asked for urine test....
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post Sep 30 2020, 11:51 PM

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Buy CI36 needs medical check up?
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post Oct 1 2020, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 30 2020, 11:56 PM)
Not unless you're got any health problem or buying a huge amount.
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My sister who is OKU and tried with Manulife and they asked to do this and that and then was rejected after the latest blood count shows anemia and hypertension.

In this case, can still proceed to buy CI36?
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post Oct 2 2020, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 2 2020, 12:27 AM)
hi jack, do you still have all the reports with you? since you already done all the checks required by Manulife and if you have all the reports kept with you, try to apply with other companies. Chance is minimal though but if you dont mind, can give it a try. if there is a company that can accept with exclusion and loading also consider good already. do update us again.
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Yes, I do have a copy.
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post Oct 5 2020, 11:16 AM

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Sometimes ppl or company tend to be smart:

I received this SMS

We are unable to reach you to review the policy contract bought via Non-Face-to-Face. Reply NF to 63839 for any clarification needed.

And what the helx that I can know which company is from.
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post Oct 13 2020, 08:11 PM

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It is really a bad experience with Manulife.

First, I applied medical insurance for my sister who is OKU. They claimed that OKU is OK as long as is good health. The process was going through and then did blood test etc and found to be anemia and hypertension. They rejected the medical insurance with reason to come back and reapply again after 1 year.

Then I wanna go for life insurance with them and they do not wish to offer as they claimed that my sister is Intellectual Disability in which her IQ is same like child about 15-16 yo.

So kia su company, better don't do insurance business la. bangwall.gif
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post Oct 13 2020, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 13 2020, 08:17 PM)
It's just a matter of offer and acceptance.

You show up by offering them with such health condition and offer to pay x amount, it's up to the insurance company whether to accept your offer with the risk involved.

If they don't want to accept, you got nothing to lose since you didn't pay them the premium. They also didn't lose anything by not offering your sister the coverage.

In this scenario you've given, you're more in the mercy of the insurance company to accept a sub standard condition rather than the insurance company is asking for your business.

If this company didn't work out with you, go try another company. Don't keep hard feeling about it.
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You are right but of course there was something happened between me and the underwriter.

They asked to get latest blood test when they found out the blood test report that she did in 2019 has anemia issue. Then I asked the underwriter that if the latest blood test report showed the same issue without improvement, will you accept the offer or reject?

If you accept, then I bring her to do blood test.
If you reject, then no point to waste my time and your money to do the test.

Then the underwriter gave direction to do the test... and at the end, rejected.. so you see how the attitude is
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post Oct 14 2020, 09:10 PM

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I m pity Manulife to treat me as lulu to offer me this plan:-

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20 years protextion. The insured high on
Accidental Death Benefit : Rm300,000
Life : Rm50,000

Yearly premium
1st year : Rm30,000
2th: Rm30,000
3th: Rm30,000
4th: Rm 30,000
5th: Rm30,000
Total Rm 150,000

Each year you can withdrawa :Rm 3,300
For 10 years

Start 11th - 20th years , you can withdraw from account Rm6000/yearly.

Upon maturity, capital you can take back Rm 167k

Meaning Rm93,000+167k after 20years.


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post Oct 14 2020, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 14 2020, 09:13 PM)
hi jack2, the plan you quoted above is not something you want. so you can ignore the offer. the agent offer you or company offers you?
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The agent helped me to appeal with the Co and the Co reviewed the appeal and provided this offer that they can offer.

Anyhow, MSIG accepted my sister's application with some exclusions on medical side and I accept the exclusion as it is fair to both of us.

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post Oct 14 2020, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 14 2020, 09:26 PM)
okay, glad to know that your sis got some offer for medical coverage. wink.gif
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 14 2020, 09:53 PM)
biggrin.gif good to hear that, gratz
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Thank you. Few companies do not want to offer life insurance as well.

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