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 Intel Pentium Dual Core E2140/E2160/E2180 Thread, Discussion & Compilation

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post Dec 30 2007, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(Dreamworks @ Dec 30 2007, 02:58 PM)
Hmm... My E2140 seems to be stable at 3.0GHz with stock vCore, passed ORTHOS for more than 12 hours. My KVRs are doing 900MHz with 1.9v, timing@5-5-5-15, decent enough for a pair of RM65 ValueRAMs happy.gif

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QUOTE(Punish @ Dec 30 2007, 10:25 PM)
or maybe its just me...i cannot run 400FSB on Ip35-E stock voltage donno why.....

and for those who with 2180 can your proc reach 3.2Ghz and how much vcore it need....my proc cannot run 3.2 even with 1.4vcore...

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not all chip can do 400fsb on stock voltage, even it's a m0 chip. smile.gif

mine (m0) need 1.4725v, what say u? cool2.gif
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QUOTE(Punish @ Dec 30 2007, 10:33 PM)
so your point is what holding my mobo to reach 400fsb was my proc...?

and your m0 1.4725 it to reach what? 3.2Ghz or 400fsb?

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it doesn't matter 8*400 or 7*400, it takes lotsa voltage to run 400fsb, which i found pointless as performance gained is not much, but u gains lotsa heat... tongue.gif

e21x0 are known to have this fsb wall issue, but not all thou... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Punish @ Dec 31 2007, 12:39 PM)
i choose e2180 cuzz i tot with the extra multiplier i can go further but sadly i was wrong....

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put it this way, most e21x0 have fsb wall around 400fbs regardless what multi u have. by gettin chip with higher multi will decrese d chance of hittin d wall, but it is not necessaryly guarantee u can achive high clocks. and just becoz most chip have that 400fsb wall it doesn't mean that e2140 confirmed reach 8*390 ish fsb, e2160 can reach 9*390 ish, e2180 sure can clock 10*390ish fsb etc... thre is no guarantee in oc, u need luck (in gettin a gud chip) beside gettin quality components like ram, psu or other related... doh.gif

and remember e21x0 are value chips, intel ain't gonna kill the sale of its mid range / high end chips by allowin ALL d value chips to be able to do what d former can do. smile.gif

QUOTE(allenultra @ Dec 31 2007, 01:02 PM)
Punish, u sure E2180 is a good OC chip?

What I read around, E2140/2160 do perform well in OC but not E2180.
IP35-E been very convincing, thus I would say your CPU already reach the limit.

P35 board should do 500fsb or near 500fsb, so what actually holding you back?

Temperature? CPU? motherboard bios?
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it's obvious that d chip is hittin d wall, no way on earth an e21x0 chip can do 500fsb. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Jan 2 2008, 05:51 PM)
yeah, maybe bro kucing is right, I got walled procs. sad.gif
and to reach 3.08, need around 1.4v, less than that not stable, cannot run even SuperPI.
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bro, wat's voltage u need to feed for 375*8. mine need 1.3875v in bios. if u can't even complete sp 1m, better lower d speed as it's quite unstable imo. smile.gif

QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jan 2 2008, 09:03 PM)
Kinda same with L2 stpping Id been used on my E4300 before. 3GHz already being walled no matter what voltage u supply.
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some M0 still capable of > 3.0GHz, just that they need lotsa voltage like 1.45v above (in my case) to break d wall, which imo, not worthy as u get lotsa heat in return... smile.gif



QUOTE(Punish @ Jan 2 2008, 09:22 PM)
izzit anyway we can detect walless CPU....batch no or something....my friend going to buy new system soon..

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d least u can do is choose a decent steppin & pray it'll be one of those better batch. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(akuinsan @ Jan 3 2008, 11:32 AM)
this is mine...
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and some Question...
after overclock... i try using Everest Ultimate (ver4.20...)
using the Benchmark tools, and i saw my DDR RAM also overclock from DDR2 667 become DDR2 833...as this picture
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and my original DDR2 667 is standard/value kingston RAM...also my proc using OEM heatsink... if that any problem if i want to using this "clock" for my daily use of my pc...

this is print screen of my current voltage/temperature, reading by everest
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drop ya ram multi and pump ya fsb up. if ya chip is a decent one, it should be able to do 2.8GHz w/o havin d need for extra juice... smile.gif
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 7 2008, 10:53 AM)
Just wondering, what might be the safe zone temperature for idle and load for E2140?

OCed one yesterday to only a mere 2.0Ghz. Dont dare to try more as i am on stock cooler. Current idle temp is 31c.
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bro, as long as ur on stock voltage, ur fine with stock cooler. any average e2140 should be able to do a 2.8GHz on stock voltage. e2140 on maximus? preparin for penryn for sure... brows.gif

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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 11 2008, 07:12 AM)
Hi there guys,

I am not sure this is a problem or not but it feels kinda weird to me. As said, i OCed my E2140 to 2.4Ghz (300 * 8) the other day and all went well..

After a while, i launched the Asus AI Suite and CPU-Z and to my surprise, its only showing my E2140 to be running on 1.8Ghz (300 * 6). The multiplier itself went down from 8 to 6. However, when i try to run some program and installer, again, both CPU-Z and Asus AI Suite automatically change the value from 1.8Ghz to 2.4Ghz.

I am wondering, is it normal for the multiplier to change automatically?
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EIST (or something like that) was enabled, u gotta disable those stuff in bios bro. there are 3/4 options needed to be disabled whenever oc is done. it's sorta C&Q to amd... smile.gif

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 9 2008, 10:17 AM)
32M SuperPI passed

3.2GHz - 1.5000VCore
DDR2 801MHz - 2.0VDIMM
NB - 1.5100V
SB - don't remember

tried Primed? doh.gif... auto-reboot cry.gif doh.gif shakehead.gif

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3.2GHz @ 1.5v... shocking.gif

isn't it abit too high bro? i ran mine @ 1.44v i already sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Feb 20 2008, 09:52 AM)
I think that is normal ..

My AMD also like this.. From 34c ... Open Firefox .. Shoot to 43c.. Then I din touch anything.. Back to 34c..  smile.gif

Anyway guys.. Why this thread don't have someone who can do the list in first page? EAsy for reference..

I still don't know which motherboard to get.. biostar / abit or gigabyte.. ? Must be highly overclockable & cheap so i can fund cooler..

I'm switching from AMD > intel..
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Feb 20 2008, 10:13 AM)
You come here do wat?  laugh.gif

BUT the price - RM 385..  sweat.gif 
ABIT - RM 315 .. RM 70 can find 2nd hand cooler already..
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abit's boards are quite gud as well, but since i had a pleasent experience, that's y i recommend gigabyte's. RM70 for diff in capasitors (normal vs solid), u'll be d judge then whether is worth d $$$. both are almost on par if not a 'lil bit better than each other in term of oc. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Feb 20 2008, 10:53 AM)
I'll be getting E2160 M0 stepping.. I need a mobo that can run 400Bus speed .. Although I am not sure I can get 100% oc but I will do it after I get cooler.. Ram must be able to do over 1000Mhz .. How hot is the Nb with passive Heatsink only? vdimm max is wat volt?

Sorry to ask a bunch.. I don't want waste money n time.. If GC nvm.. just unplug only.. Motherboard is real headache..

I'm in overclocking for quite some time and my exp tells me that Gigabyte / Asus expensive becoz of their branded name and marketing.. Their performance I don't really know coz i neva use .. expensive ma..
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u can expect 400fsb on almost all p35 boards, heck, even p965 boards can do that. wat matter d most is ya chip, for sure not all e2160 (even it's a m0) can do 400fsb as most of intel chips have this fsb wall. imagine if e2160 / e2180 can do 400fsb, will there be ppl buyin their e4xxx/e6xxx chips? laugh.gif

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well, if that's d case i gotta agree w u, but i did enjoy playin w 965p-ds3 back then when i owned an e2140, oc was a breeze, or i can say oc w intel is easier. then i managed to play w asus p5k-e, a great board i must say. no vdrop & very fine voltage tweak option for vdimm (0.05v per notch IIRC), but my oc was limited by d chip which can hardly go further than 400fsb, that's y i opted to sell all & went back to amd (misery). laugh.gif

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