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English Clubs Chelsea FC - The Shed V53, EPL - Chelsea v Liverpool 11.30pm #833

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post Feb 20 2020, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Feb 20 2020, 12:22 PM)
Iike I said if it was reviewed, christensen would be more likely to be punished for simulation, bloody nose and all rolleyes.gif
Just like the willian incident, where it was never a dive, he was just trying to avoid being clattered into, and didn't even appeal.
I'll say it again, chelsea were idiots for not going for him in january and expecting tammy to be the second coming of drogba. Lamps has to shoulder some of the blame as well, refusing to give michy and especially giroud more opportunities in order to build confidence and at least keep tammy on his toes. I mean if I were in his shoes, why bother trying so hard, and what's the big deal in missing so many chances? I'm the undisputed number one anyway. Virtually undroppable.

Drogba was pushed by the very best in the business, in the form of crespo, anelka, shevchenko and torres. It brought out a different kind of monster in him, and you could see this translated onto the pitch.

Tammy looks over his shoulder and he sees a bunch of mugs whom the manager doesn't even trust. What lamps needs to realise is tammy is just as culpable for us dropping points when he misses big chances, as kepa is when he let's in silly goals. He kicks kepa to the curb without a second thought, yet tammy gets a free pass. Bad man management imo.

Tammy is nowhere near the level of an elite striker like the drogs who can turn a game at any given moment. The kid doesn't deserve to be given so much trust, nor should he be burdened with the responsibility of carrying the team.
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whenever there are big games between chelsea and top 5 clubs...the ref who always get chosen will be the one bias against chelsea, already witnessed it over this decade

anyways....tammy is simply not strong enough to become drogba / costa 2.0

hence we need to test 2 strikers upfront from the start, i can't brain if the team is not winning in a row...why can't just try 4-4-2 or 4-1-3-2 , or heck even 3-5-2 formation ?
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To be fair in all aspect, this is Lampard’s first season.

Yes, he did accept the managerial role knowing first hand the consequences of falling out of Top 4. And for what it’s worth, his familiarity with the club up to Abramovich increases our expectation even further during the early days of his appointment as our manager.

But, do take into account on the transfer ban (albeit only being applied until the January window). We definitely lack options, regardless on attacking-wise or defensive-wise, we are short on options. And to add to the series of unfortunate events, many of our top players are out injured for a good while.

For me, getting top 4 is definitely a bonus. We need to see this from a long-term perspective. Lamps is definitely trying to build something, that is for sure.

But for the next 6 fixtures... really hope Lampard could improve on his tactics. Maybe a 3-4-3 with Alonso, or 3-4-1-2 with 2 strikers up front to instil more attacking prowess to the team.

We need to win the Saturday match so badly 🙈
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post Feb 20 2020, 03:09 PM

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Btw, Arsene’s proposal on the new VAR law seems better and accurate imo. Hopefully the proposal can be accepted and applied in the next coming seasons. Current VAR kills the beauty of football, both for the fans and the players imo sad.gif
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QUOTE(fzrnhkm @ Feb 20 2020, 03:09 PM)
Btw, Arsene’s proposal on the new VAR law seems better and accurate imo. Hopefully the proposal can be accepted and applied in the next coming seasons. Current VAR kills the beauty of football, both for the fans and the players imo sad.gif
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still not understand what the difference between his suggestion and current offside rule
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post Feb 20 2020, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Feb 20 2020, 12:22 PM)
Iike I said if it was reviewed, christensen would be more likely to be punished for simulation, bloody nose and all rolleyes.gif
Just like the willian incident, where it was never a dive, he was just trying to avoid being clattered into, and didn't even appeal.
I'll say it again, chelsea were idiots for not going for him in january and expecting tammy to be the second coming of drogba. Lamps has to shoulder some of the blame as well, refusing to give michy and especially giroud more opportunities in order to build confidence and at least keep tammy on his toes. I mean if I were in his shoes, why bother trying so hard, and what's the big deal in missing so many chances? I'm the undisputed number one anyway. Virtually undroppable.

Drogba was pushed by the very best in the business, in the form of crespo, anelka, shevchenko and torres. It brought out a different kind of monster in him, and you could see this translated onto the pitch.

Tammy looks over his shoulder and he sees a bunch of mugs whom the manager doesn't even trust. What lamps needs to realise is tammy is just as culpable for us dropping points when he misses big chances, as kepa is when he let's in silly goals. He kicks kepa to the curb without a second thought, yet tammy gets a free pass. Bad man management imo.

Tammy is nowhere near the level of an elite striker like the drogs who can turn a game at any given moment. The kid doesn't deserve to be given so much trust, nor should he be burdened with the responsibility of carrying the team.

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right on cue!
Lampard shouldn't give any favouritism toward those young players although it a good way to go now. But he should use the entire squad than just stick with certain players even this young players doesn't performing. Lampard should keep them on their toe, that in order to play, all players especially those young players need to perform in the matches.
Those young players need to know they still got long way to learn to be consistently first team players and not become big headed start asking/demanding more money and status just because performing in few matches and started most in the matches!

This post has been edited by Iceman74: Feb 20 2020, 04:51 PM
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post Feb 20 2020, 11:20 PM

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Christensen fit to face spurs after custom make his mask at milan
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post Feb 20 2020, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Feb 20 2020, 03:34 PM)
still not understand what the difference between his suggestion and current offside rule
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As per The Guardian’s website:

“ What Wenger is suggesting, in his capacity as Fifa’s head of global development, is a slight variation on the concept of daylight between an attacking player and the last defender. The former Arsenal manager believes that, if any part of a player’s body that can score a goal is level or onside – i.e. anything except the hand or arm – he should not be ruled as offside, and we can stop chalking off perfectly good goals because an armpit or a big toe was millimetres ahead of the last defender.”

In other words, Giroud’s goal in the match vs ManU would have been counted as onside biggrin.gif

However, there are speculations saying that the real issue with VAR lies within the ‘remote refereeing’, which would still be there even if Arsene’s proposal as per above is applied sweat.gif

Sos kicap warna biru: https://amp.theguardian.com/football/blog/2...mote-refereeing
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post Feb 21 2020, 10:12 PM

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Lampard:

- RLC back in the Chelsea squad.
- Kante, Pulisic out, Christensen and Abraham in squad.
- Kepa decision still just based on performances.
- Giroud in contention to start.
- Not thinking battle with Mourinho back at the Bridge. #cfc
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post Feb 22 2020, 01:11 PM

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I cant watch the game today...will be attending a wedding....common chelsea we need to win.

Just put in a good performance.

Tough couple of games in the coming weeks for chelsea
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post Feb 22 2020, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(fzrnhkm @ Feb 20 2020, 03:06 PM)
To be fair in all aspect, this is Lampard’s first season.

Yes, he did accept the managerial role knowing first hand the consequences of falling out of Top 4. And for what it’s worth, his familiarity with the club up to Abramovich increases our expectation even further during the early days of his appointment as our manager.

But, do take into account on the transfer ban (albeit only being applied until the January window). We definitely lack options, regardless on attacking-wise or defensive-wise, we are short on options. And to add to the series of unfortunate events, many of our top players are out injured for a good while.

For me, getting top 4 is definitely a bonus. We need to see this from a long-term perspective. Lamps is definitely trying to build something, that is for sure.

But for the next 6 fixtures... really hope Lampard could improve on his tactics. Maybe a 3-4-3 with Alonso, or 3-4-1-2 with 2 strikers up front to instil more attacking prowess to the team.

We need to win the Saturday match so badly 🙈
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You're right about that. Our good run which included some fantastic wins away vs burnley, wolves (5-2!), etc, kind of pushed expectations way up including mine, but when teams started to figure us out, all of us were hoping for frank to come up with solutions. They haven't been coming, plus our injury crisis (not sure what they're doing in training, but I can't recall the last time our players were dropping like flies, one after another) has only made things worse, so everyone's on edge and worried right now sad.gif

QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Feb 20 2020, 04:47 PM)
right on cue!
Lampard shouldn't give any favouritism toward those young players although it a good way to go now. But he should use the entire squad than just stick with certain players even this young players doesn't performing. Lampard should keep them on their toe, that in order to play, all players especially those young players need to perform in the matches.
Those young players need to know they still got long way to learn to be consistently first team players and not become big headed start asking/demanding more money and status just because performing in few matches and started most in the matches!
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The most obvious are tammy, mount, and kante imo. It's okay to have favourites, but he absolutely must know when enough is enough. Alienating giroud and michy has also been detrimental to their confidence. Michy especially, looked like a very capable player for palace and dortmund while on loan. It's impossible for him to turn garbage overnight, but when your manager decides to go strikerless and sub in a midfielder for his final change in a crucial match (vs leicester) , it can happen. It shouldn't, but it can.

QUOTE(Shanks747 @ Feb 22 2020, 01:11 PM)

I cant watch the game today...will be attending a wedding....common chelsea we need to win.

Just put in a good performance.

Tough couple of games in the coming weeks for chelsea
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A couple of losses in a row and we may well be heading for a downward spiral. Players like giroud (if given a chance) need to step up, even barkley. Frank may just need to bite the bullet and play 'conservative' against some of these teams, maybe even go for a counter attacking approach. My main worry is we've been drilled into such a one dimensional system with mixed results, it may be the only system the team is capable of utilising. Let's see what happens tonight.
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post Feb 22 2020, 07:29 PM

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Back 3 with Barkley start
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Great to see Alonso, Barkley and giroud start!
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post Feb 22 2020, 07:57 PM

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Missed last game due to odd timing. 343 hmmm interesting. Good to see Giroud and Barkley start. Let's go guissss
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post Feb 22 2020, 08:20 PM

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Farewell kepa. Thanks for all the penalty saves sad.gif
Think his chelsea career is basically over. On the other hand, great to see barkley and giroud in there! smile.gif
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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Feb 22 2020, 08:20 PM)
Farewell kepa. Thanks for all the penalty saves sad.gif
Think his chelsea career is basically over. On the other hand, great to see barkley and giroud in there! smile.gif
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Whats ur idea if we swap Kepa with Donnarumma? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Feb 22 2020, 08:26 PM)
Whats ur idea if we swap Kepa with Donnarumma? icon_idea.gif
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Dont think so
He is another problem, not to say his agent
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post Feb 22 2020, 08:45 PM

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Goalllllllllll king Giroud!
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post Feb 22 2020, 08:45 PM

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we are pressing them like no tomorrow
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Giroud!

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