Yes i am looking around that year.  The 2.5z offering about 190k to 210k. Parts wise there are alot of people in the market selling it so i wont be worrying too much. At least it has gear box not as espensive as my beemer that i am driving now, heck i dont even know why i bought it new when i saw my friend get the same model recond one with 30% lower price and nothing is wrong. I guess is luck.

As for vellfire, there are offers giving 1 to 2 years warranty. I thought its gimmick but no. There are those without warranty but about 10-15% lower price.

I do not want to buy new because it cost RM 400k +, and risk being stolen especially for this models in new.

My wife doesnt like kia grand carnival because it looks bulky and like a van, even though i liked it. Serena is too small, i didnt like it so it boils down to vellfire.