I am not so experienced, but i read some forumer said need check online car history and etc.

Any 1 stop dealer who have high credit? can recommend? thx

https://m.facebook.com/wanaokr/

Can try to check with them. My friend is working as SA there. Look for Desmond

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yamud ent....

since i worked so many years in recond
my answer to u is NONE

and since you're not experience in buying recond or in car in general
i suggest u buy new car for peace of mind
recond car dealer only gives u 2 months warranty only

thank you, a bit far from me, but will check it out on weekend.

if u fork me 200k extra then i will buy new.

trust me, don't be cheapskate
that "cheapskate" will backfire u once the 2 month warranty is over
if u don't know anything abt cars at all, u won't be able to point out what is wrong with the car
and you'll be in serious wallet trouble once it fail

or just forego your vellfire idea and go for other cars that is sold brand new...why must u have a vellfire?
u have to understand that buying a recond is basically buying a used car, there is no difference

there are differences between being a cheapskate and opt for not so high price cars that will devalue quickly overtime.
plus, I am using it for weekend family trip to dinner, shopping and maybe going somewhere, there are 7-8 of us.

you're going to regret it real soon
don't say i never advice u before

2 months warranty pass by very fast

If worry about warranty might as well get new Nissan Serena

Nissan serena hybrid is a good value for money option although depreciation hits hard in the first few years. Or else, get a vellfire / alphard and standby another 20k for anything that may fail. I'm assuming you're looking for a 2013-2014 vellfire?

can try sehaluan s/b at glenmarie
some said good .. but i not the buyer

ask for the grading of the vehicle. should come with specsheet and grade.

Any reason why dismiss locally available choices like

Kia Grand Carnival
Honda Odyssey
Nissan Serena

Reading through the war of comments, I find the comments abit not helpful.
What i can only decipher - You dont buy a car with warranty, if anything goes wrong, "its the end of the world. It's your coffin"
Warranty warranty warranty.

I mean, how horrible can it go? The whole car gonna explode and kill all the passengers, if don't buy a genuine Toyota with warranty? And Toyota is not gonna be responsible for a blown up car?
(I had to exaggerate to knock some sense)

RM 200K difference is a huge difference to justify going for a genuine , Toyota Vellfire.
if its a Bimmer or Merc, okay , that's justifiable because of the spare part price. But a Toyota? Not even a Lexus.
Toyota are as reliable as they can be. And even if let's say,in the event the CVT gearbox goes down, it can be fixed with a budget of around RM 5k. Not changing to recond part. There are CVT specialist out there.

And there are 3rd party workshops (not those bawah pokok workshop) offering specialize servicing in recond Jap cars .

yes there is pros and cons of a recond Vellfire / Alphard. People still buy it because of the price.

And if it were me having a healthy budget for Vellfire, I would want to be seen in a Vellfire, not a Serena. No offense , but truth is, status wise, Vellfire is one class above Serena.

Yes i am looking around that year. The 2.5z offering about 190k to 210k. Parts wise there are alot of people in the market selling it so i wont be worrying too much. At least it has gear box not as espensive as my beemer that i am driving now, heck i dont even know why i bought it new when i saw my friend get the same model recond one with 30% lower price and nothing is wrong. I guess is luck.

As for vellfire, there are offers giving 1 to 2 years warranty. I thought its gimmick but no. There are those without warranty but about 10-15% lower price.

I do not want to buy new because it cost RM 400k +, and risk being stolen especially for this models in new.

My wife doesnt like kia grand carnival because it looks bulky and like a van, even though i liked it. Serena is too small, i didnt like it so it boils down to vellfire.

There is a website we can check the car history at a price, i did not bookmark. If you know kindly please post it for me.

last time i did something like this i came across a shop that sell them alphard / veilf at singnificantly higher price when i asked why , he brought out thier listed cars all graded as A while others brought in down to D grades. thats why theirs much more expensive. never knew about them specsheet until i saw one.

he advice me if ever in the market make sure demand for the specsheet 1st. explain alot. as lower grade usually come with accident case.

Kia Grand Carnival, diesel klunker. And the brand Kia. But its a damn good choice. I just think Vellfire more handsome. Resale value the Vellfire will hold down the line.
Nissan Serena is smaller. Good choice if that's the size you want.

Dunno anything about Honda Odyssey.

TS UGPM, the person I bought from. So its personal experience. Super satisfied so I will happily recommend.

That bad? I thought the famous issue is the steering column. The engine is bulletproof, so is the gearbox -- you not tekan-ing lah, its a MPV.

This post has been edited by Jason: Feb 6 2020, 10:46 PM

these vellfire are also famous for their ABS module problem
u can't check it, u can only wait for it to fail and it's very expensive to change 1 of them
my friend who owns a vellfire back then changed a few of these every year until he was so fed up...he traded in for a kia instead
the power door sometimes will give u problems too...as always expensive to repair

the SA that u engage knows nothing abt the car they're selling, their job is only to sell u the car u like
they don't even know the condition the car it's in nor that they care
a car that is grade C also they can say it's a grade A...u won't even know
that's why the buyer needs to know themselves which part is wrong and needed replacement

as someone mentioned, he is looking for a 2013-2014 car, it's a 6-7 years car, what kind of car that is 6-7 years old that is problem free?
as compared to a brand new car?

Don't need spare 20k to repair la, Toyota won't be so critical like conti cars.

Not so much issue on anh30, during my 6 years ownership for the anh20, exclude my mod and wear&tear, the most expensive repair I spent was throttle body, was quoted 4K by Toyota SC, but my friend use a repair kit that cost me 1k plus. Absorbers, steering rack and brake pad+rotor won't cost a lot for you if you can afford 200k car.

When ppl don't and never own it, will scare you off, so don't bother and continue the hunt.

What you need now is to find a reliable recond car dealer, before place booking, get the Scrut report of the said vehicle and enjoy it.

the spec sheet got mention grade rate?
can it be altered?

LOL

dont be so stereotyping all the sales person in general

car from japan is auction off in an auction and japan will do a very detail report about it and u can access by paying a small fee

so dont just open your big bad mouth and accuse other like you know whats happening

https://scrut.my/

they provide this service but im unsure of the price though
u need to know the full chassis number first

thank you so much!

I got the original auction sheet. hehehe. so i know exactly what grade I'm getting.
Didn't know about the ABS module problem.

Grand Carnival boxy van like. HELLO the Hellfire is literally a moving box. At least the Kia has come curves and with better aesthetics than the Hellfire.

Before buy recond units, please check the history of the car first in JPN before ship here. Scrut.com can buy report. You need to know what is the overall grade from 1-5, R is accident and most importantly is millage.

u can't
but most of it won't even let u see the auction sheet, only the boss hold it...the SA won't have access to it
so u need to get it on your own
and even then the SA will always say the car they sell is grade A
what can u do?...it's in their nature

but i can guarantee u it won't be grade A because A means brand new or almost brand new...real mileage is less than 1000km which is impossible for what u wanted


bro, i've been in this industry for more than 5 years already...u think u know whats happening inside better than me?
those "auction sheet"...only the boss will have access to it since they're the ones who bid it. bought it and pay for it
the SA will have absolutely no access to it and they won't even see it in their lifetime nor that the boss will let them see it

from the moment the car arrived at port until the car is sold, i can guarantee the SA never touched the car before so they will have absolutely no idea abt the car(that would also affect their mindset to sell the car as well when they know there is something wrong with it)

p/s : i'm not an SA, i'm the one who handles the car when it arrives at port till inspecting the car thoroughly for them(dealer)
and even then i still don't have access to the "auction sheet" but i know where to get it from

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Feb 7 2020, 01:36 PM

Difference between Grade A, B, C, D or whatever, is it big? how do they grade it.

ANH20 2.4 is solid reliability with ample sparepart, but 3.5 plague with gb issue. Anh30 2.5 plague with gb issue for model 2015~2017. 2018 gb is revised model imnm. I m still using ANH20. Initially looking to change 2015, but my mech advise not to unless 2018 but 2018 model still exp.