Hi, as title possible to get a rm3k road bicycle that wont trial far behind a expensive road bicycle???

Lazanda shopee under 1k got ady

Yes, for western branded bikes, can get 8 speed shimano claris brifters.


But if you are willing to consider China brand, options open up for you up to shimano 105 11speed groupset.


I'll go for the China brands over the western ones. More worth the money.

Shit bikes using freewheels and not real cassettes and using low end shifters.

Can give some china brand names?

Go check out RN Samy bikes in Batu Caves.

Up a bit (for real) Twitter Thunder Full Carbon Shimano 105 full.

I regretted with my Specialized Peter Sagan Venge. Damn.

i am staying very far from batu caves. But i did fb search this shop and in the first few post i did see they are selling a road bike for only rm999, fuuu damn good price.
But the question is this super cheap bikes vs those super expensive carbon fiber bike will it be hard to keep up with them? Like if you are riding in a group do you have to be padding extra hard just to maintain speed with them???

Bike is like 10%.

If you're just starting get 30k bike also can't keep up with 3k bike with decent rider

why regret??

Just get a good quality alloy bike with at least shimano 105 11 speed and learn to pedal properly. Padding hard will not get you anywhere. Bicycles are simple things, the engine is you and the most important answer to your question.

Some decent China brands are CAMP, Twitter. JAVA.

Also can consider Raleigh sojourn, (not truly UK raleigh but Malaysian license/unlicense copy) under 2k for 9 speed sora set.

But this is not the end of story, you need to make sure they have the frame size that suits your height.
You cannot just buy any road bike.
Also, different manufacturer has own way of counting frame sizes. Only consistence is across their own models.



And remember, the higher the speed count, the faster the chain wears out. Only reason to get multi-speed is for smoother gear change, but generally I don't give a shit about that, so 9 speed sora for me is plentiful.


Yes, I'll also stick with alloy.


I dislike carbon bikes, even though they're lighter, the price you pay is not worth the weight ratio. Also, in a crash, they're much harder to repair or even detect the flaws.


And because they're using resins, these degrade over time depending on how often it is exposed to the sunlight.


Carbon bikes do not lasts.... they will degrade.

This post has been edited by jbcoder: Jan 27 2020, 08:38 PM

Specialized allez with Shimano claris groupset can get 3k+. I think some entry level Giant bike can also get 3k+.

If ur into brand name get specialized allez but need top up a bit. Else , if dont mind name get twitter with 105 shimano groupset

ok thanks guys i think if i buy i will get the Twitter Thunder it looks good and is in my price range.

group set can get brand new mix ultegra. frameset can choose 2nd hand branded.

supersix evo

For carbon road bikes, best to get disc brake version. You don't want to wear down your expensive rims.

Furthermore your carbon rims are shit in the rain, cannot even compete with alloy rims.

What is decent bike?

Van a decent rider with noob bike beat a noob rider with a top range bike?

brakes you can modify later on or you are stuck with what ever brakes it come with?

Disc frames and rim brake frames are totally different, cannot modify to each other.


The problem with rim brakes on carbon bikes is you need special pads for carbon wheels and they don't work well in the wet compared to alloy rim brakes.


It's ok to get even cable disc brake road bike since they work better in the wet than rim brakes. The only thing better than them are hydraulic disc brakes.


I personally would go for something like this.

https://shopee.com.my/JAVA-S3-Disc-Brake-Ro...4857.2806267188

Another option here. Full hydraulic disc brakes.

https://shopee.com.my/Twitter-Sniper-2.0-Di...6755.2575706901

This post has been edited by jbcoder: Jan 27 2020, 10:19 PM

For budget rm3k, can try look at Scott Speedster30 11spd.

i see thanks

TS if you buy used you got many option to consider even name brand. For 3K, you can get specialized allez with 105 r7000, even cannondale caad 12, these 2 are consider a good entry level bike which when you cycle in group you can show face. I shit you not, sooner or later when you ride a twitter/camp/java, you'll find the urge to change to a good name brand road bike. Thats what I did, buy a used specialize frame and moded it out to look like price expensive but when in reality it cheap

Go for Twitter, 3k can get Shimano 105. If Taiwan. U can sapu. Just ignore Merida and giant too expensip.

U can get at Rahang Cycle Seremban. If u not there use their price as the bench mark

RM 3,388, shimano 105 even r7000 for beginner it a steal. Only downside is 8.4kg but considered the best bike for 3k budget.

https://www.facebook.com/504351696382701/po...88359401315249/

Also worth noting even rim brakes have 2 diff version. One with center mounting hole and the other dual mounting hole to the fork

So it's abit annoying especially if u plan upgrade here and there.....worst is to upgrade frame. Macam macam restriction.

Like the above, or rim brakes or disk brakes or front mounted FD or use those clamps, di 2 ready (if u want to future proof) etc


3k, I suggest u get second hand bike ....service like new then use 1 to 2 years. Then change whole bike or go for custom.build.

Most important for the bike, it's not the component etc but please...please ....please for the love of God, get a frame that fits your size. Make sure u measure inseam in cm * 0.883 to get your seat post setup ( measure from middle of crank spindle to the seat post


Make sure you don't over extend the seat post. Stem etc can adjust later but also make sure the fork isn't cut and slammed when you buy. Else no way you can adjust the height of the stem later.

but i see many here says the bike only matters a small percentage? A fit and powerful rider is more important?

This post has been edited by JustcallmeLarry: Jan 27 2020, 11:17 PM

Just my 2 cents.

Start reading up on different materials and types for frame and rims. Don't just jump in and get a carbon bike.

CFRP (carbon) frames are light but extremely rigid. Terrible for our local roads. They come with very skinny rims and low profile tires, also bad for our roads. Race seats are also very thin, skinny and uncomfortable. You will need those pants that have padding in the thighs if you plan on sitting down.

A light frame also carries no momentum, meaning it's less stable and more subject to minor changes from you or the road and wind.
They are meant for people who are pushing 90-100% all the time.

The plastic in the CFRP frame disintegrates over time, especially in the sun, whereas you can paint metal frames.

Aluminium frames are heavier but also very rigid. They are much stronger than carbon, so can take damage. Mostly used in mountain bikes.

Steel (chromoly) frames are great for long distance and comfort. They are tough, durable and the spring effect is good for soaking up imperfect roads like what we have here. It's also the strongest of the 3, so you'll find frames that are much thinner. They tend to be cheaper, but really good ones can cost the same as carbon or alu.

It's useful you read up about frames because this essentially is the bike. The rest of the components can be replaced.

A frame that fits your body is worth much more than anything else. Hence nobody can tell you what's best. If you can find a good bike maker, a custom frame is night and day different. Emphasis on good.

Buying used is a great way to get a good bike for less. Just make sure it's a good fit for you.

Don't get tempted by fancy components. In my case, I've got 21 speeds but only use the fastest one. Once you get strong enough, so will you. Disc brakes are great for feel and grip, but is an additional component. You'll only need it for carbon rims cuz the rims cost so much.

Sorry I can't talk about prices cuz I got my bike made a long time ago and haven't bought another since.

starting with durable steel frame or lightweight alu is ok.. next time u can change
but get good groupset like latest ultegra (derailleurs chainring, and cranks).. no nid include brake (105 level enuff) and advice start with clipless right of the bat (ultegra class pedals + cleats, and a good fitting shoe is very important). Practicing good cycling technique prevent injury especially to the achilles.

Wheels and hubs dun worry so much.. unless u plan to constantly hit at least 40km/h

will inflate initial cost.. but if u plan gonna be long term next time can change frame to carbon or titanium, and port over the parts.
also alternatively if u dun like Shimano system u can opt for SRAM.

This post has been edited by lee_lnh: Jan 27 2020, 11:38 PM

https://bicyclebuysell.com/

Look here

I found one guy customised bicycle frame..handmade frame... So nice the frame...

Nobody ever got shit for buying a Giant, Specialized or Canondale alloy bike.
The downside of buying used bike or frames is you don't know if the bike really fits you.
Buying a road bike is like getting a tailored shirt and each brand fits differently.
All good if the bike fits you and your budget but always buy the bike that fits your body not your wallet.
If you don't, your body will protest and then you'll need to spend again to buy another bike or fix your body.

For sure, your fitness level is more important. Bike also, if you don't setup properly then you won't utilize 100% of your power.

Can. But if you got more money can buy E bikes

When someone said group set 105.. what is complete set?

Saw few ads aging 105 group set but only consist of Rd, Rd and brake lever..

There is no accountability when it comes to propagating fiction as facts behind a username ya

LOL

complete set for 105 is not worth anything just FYI

how about the down side of buying used frames is that you do not know of the condition of the frames

Good to have for easier resell. Teru setori.

i read once this simple test; throw the frame in a lake/lombong. if it floats, then it's in good condition

That's why its important to first determine his own fit on a site like https://www.competitivecyclist.com/Store/ca...culatorBike.jsp before buying a bike

if everyone is as gullible as a cat i know

SL2

First bike, go to a lbs.
Cycling is an expensive sport. Deal with it or jog on.
3k for bike.
What's the budget for cycling wear, socks shoes glasses and helm? That's easily another 1.5k.

Better to go to a shop and sit on a bike. It is worth more than a million bike for websites.

Better to go to a shop and sit on a bike. It is worth more than a million bike for websites.

TS, are you planning to trail with a group of friends with expensive road bicycle?

Noted on the bolded. I'll let those guys cycling up Perez, Genting Sempah, Guthrie, Sepang, etc... know this.

lol definately more expensive then what ever i am getting their bikes are in the 6-10k category but i will want to take part in those big cycling event when they happen. I know those guys will be coming with their rm20k bikes.

Yup, consumables like cassettes, chain-ring, no need to get full original groupset, since you can get cheaper consumables elsewhere.


Shifters, brakes (except pads), Front and rear derailleurs lasts forever, so those you can stick with the original.

For cycling events, unless you're SPONSORED or just rich show offs, very few are willing to bring their own expensive carbon bikes in case a pile-up/crash happens.


Pro-cyclists don't need to pay for their bikes, since they're sponsored. So crash 20k bike also never mind.

If you'd kindly point out the fiction that'd be helpful, but it seems too much to expect from a troll.

This post has been edited by djtong: Jan 29 2020, 12:09 AM

You never know they might have those heavy, flexible carbon frames with the fat tires...

I dislike dishonest people

ok. 20 yrs ago, i started riding and join events with mummy bicycle as i am schooling and have no income. slowly i got my own cheap local bike and after working i got my 1st mtb. got poison by peers alike and upgraded like crazy back those day.
now i am just happily cycling around taman as i am now a full time dad

Need to know from you sifus did i just get cheated?
2 weeks ago i went to a nearby bike shop to get my first bike, my budget also rm3. I ask "expert" what is the best bike i could get with that budget and he sold me a Trek Domane AL2 saying it has a good frame and the groupset was used by people to compete in Tour De France b4. Was he making fun of my 0 knowledge on bicycle bcs reading through this thread people are recommending bike with better groupset which are cheaper then mine???

This post has been edited by RiriRuruRara: Jan 29 2020, 03:18 PM

Trek Domane AL2 is aluminium frame, boleh main. Apa groupset?

No you did not get cheated. That price is about right for an entry level Trek Domane bike. It's expensive because of the name 'Trek'. We're just being cheapskates trying to get better deal and bypassing branded products. Mostly aiming for China brands bike frame.


Groupset anything Claris (8 speed)above is acceptable in my opinion, as long as they're brake shifters or brifters. Don't use thumb shifters on a road bike or even downtube shifters. Too dangerous to use for beginners (but they were what's used before brifters came) since road bikes being nimble and thin tyres, are harder to balance with one hand while trying to shift with the other.


Most importantly the bike must suit your height. If you're comfortable riding it then you're good to go. I hope the fella gave you a free bike fitting too.

good luck ts… dun later got a fancy road bike not manage to catch up with 451 minivelo and abandon cycling after that yo!

LOL, true and maybe false

What group set

3k budget dun get carbon frame, that u might risk your life.

Yeap....3k USD can get quite a decent bike

ahh raleigh chopper bike

good times

According to spec sheet it is a Shimano Claris R2000,8 speed.

Yes he did give do a fitting. But my request was the best bike i could get with that budget not best brand name...

Claris is lowest spec.

Shimano
Claris X 8
Sora X 9
Tiagra X 10
105, Ultegra and Dura-Ace X 11

Only the frame can main for the Trek.

This post has been edited by kcchong2000: Jan 29 2020, 03:41 PM

i see miao n bunneh in here lol. thats rare

does the weight matter to you, do u ever ride a RB?
if you're new, do u planning to ride for long term or short term just for syiok only?

if you're not looking at the brand, 3k can get a decent RB alrdy with shimano 105 or tiagra also sufficient alrdy.

Then buy a clip pedal and shoe, and train ur cadence

the devil told me people used to compete in tour de france with this lowest spec gears???

Using the frame, maybe yes, groupset conlan97firm no. It just in F1 circuit, u use kancil to compete. Goodluck lar.

You need to know that bicycle, you need to had the frame + groupset + wheelsets + saddle + pedal + stem and handlebar. (bolded is main part)

For Frames maybe yes to competition, groupset sorry lar.

Groupset is crank, shifter, brakes, cassettes, chain, chainring

This post has been edited by kcchong2000: Jan 29 2020, 03:50 PM

they sell crankarms only without chainrings? then get them chainrings elsewhere?

which shop u went to?
what other brands they had?

This post has been edited by miaopurr: Jan 29 2020, 03:51 PM

Well he's not wrong if he fits that model for your budget, assuming he doesn't sell China brands.


Most of these shops are kinda snobs and they're anti-China bike frames.


So if he only sells brand name products and what's available in his shop, then that model is the best you could buy for 3k at his shop.

Shimano Dura ace was once 8 speed and a lot more inferior as compared to what you have today in Claris, at least aesthetically

The technology of Dura ace trickles down to Ultegra and then to 105 and so on, so it was not entirely a lie when the seller said that to you but he was being disingenuous about the fact, nuances but definitely not lazy lies like carbon's a lot more rigid than aluminium

get an older bike, 2nd hand.. shimano ultegra or sram red groupset..

i last time bought a kouta with shimano dura-ace groupset for less than 3k.

worth.

Not really, more like brands from China with little to no accountability when it comes to honouring warranties or safety standards

for 3k, i would highly suggest buy a second hand alloy giant bike, instead of those cheapo china china bike

but given that u have a friend or urself know how to check for bike condition la, otherwise buying those china bike is better

imo, china alloy > china cheapo carbon, cause bended alloy won't make u crash but damaged carbon might give ur life away

new groupsets (long rear derailleur cage) has a wide range cassette 11-34T. While the standard highest gear 11T is rarely used.. too rigid and need a lot of power. the 34T is a new welcome especially for steep climb and for all rounders/beginners.
older versions supports up to 32T (which I am still using).

This post has been edited by lee_lnh: Jan 29 2020, 11:36 PM

Does anyone heard about Benetto R100 Roadbike? Any comment. CFR