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post Jan 22 2020, 06:44 PM, updated 6y ago

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I am opening new thread for BK1X series

for comparison between BK1X and UA6800X for 60 inch as below:

BK1X

Picture:
Colour Wide
Brightness Standard
Upconverter -
HDR 4K HD Support| HDR 10|HLG
Youtube HDR -
Netflix HDR -
HDMI HDR -
USB HDR -

Audio:
Decoder Dolby Audio

Android
Version 9.0
Web Browser Puffin Tv

Connectivity
HDMI 3
USB 2 (Version 2.0)

Others
Power Consumption 189W

UA6800X

Picture:
Colour Real
Brightness High
Upconverter 4K
HDR Yes
Youtube HDR Yes
Netflix HDR Yes
HDMI HDR Yes
USB HDR Yes

Audio:
Decoder Dolby Audio with Eilex Prism

Android
Version 7.0
Web Browser Downloadable

Connectivity
HDMI 4
USB 2 (Version 3.0 x 1 , Version 2.0 x 1)

Others
Power Consumption 196W


My question are:

a) What is different between wide and real colour?

b) What is the mean of 4K HD Support| HDR 10|HLG? so it is mean previous model had upscaled 4K?

c) Why they removed Eilex Prism?

d) Why new model connectivitiy USB got only version 2.0 ? previous model got 3.0 for 1

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post Jan 22 2020, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(shebbycs @ Jan 22 2020, 06:44 PM)
I am opening new thread for BK1X series

for comparison between BK1X and UA6800X for 60 inch as below:

a) What is different between wide and real colour?

b) What is the mean of 4K HD Support| HDR 10|HLG? so it is mean previous model had upscaled 4K?

c) Why they removed Eilex Prism?

d) Why new model connectivitiy USB got only version 2.0 ? previous model got 3.0 for 1
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a)... good question..., no idea!

b) HLG or Hybrid Log Gamma is meant for online broadcast streams... possible some markets are going that direction.

c) eilex is an tv audio feature... not sure if it makes that much diff w/o it.

d) yep, this is going backwards, no good. and 3 hdmi is not goof enuf for some people.
perhaps these 2 are done to reduce cost to price the tv very competitively.


can also put AL1X for comparison... but we but AL1X is very similar to UA6800X, diff is really the positions of the hdmi ports.

UA6800X
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4488602/+2200

AL1X
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4778611/+200



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post Jan 22 2020, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 22 2020, 07:29 PM)
a)... good question..., no idea!

b) HLG or Hybrid Log Gamma is meant for online broadcast streams... possible some markets are going that direction.

c) eilex is an tv audio feature... not sure if it makes that much diff w/o it.

d) yep, this is going backwards, no good. and 3 hdmi is not goof enuf for some people.
perhaps these 2 are done to reduce cost to price the tv very competitively.
can also put AL1X for comparison... but we but AL1X is very similar to UA6800X, diff is really the positions of the hdmi ports.

UA6800X
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4488602/+2200

AL1X
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4778611/+200
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yeah that why did not put AL1X
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post Jan 24 2020, 04:12 AM

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u should better compare with AL1X.
when reading the official pdf u will see sharp define wide color as UHD 4k blue ray support etc
for usb and prism? i tink is jz to cut cost lo..

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post Jan 24 2020, 12:03 PM

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The information display on the internet might not be correct.... you got to call them and check once it is for sales....I call sharp to check whether 4TC70AL1X is really direct LED or not.......they say is not and mention the inforation on the internet is wrong.....
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post Jan 30 2020, 05:02 PM

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Just found this thread today. Been using my BK1X 60" for the last 2 weeks.

So far loving it. Been using it to watch Astro, Kodi for local videos from my NAS and other online streaming videos.

I would say this TV video upscaling from lower resolution is awesome. Tested as low as 480p video source and it works great.

It also have Bluetooth out with is great to use with my over the ear headset.

Android TV is 9.0 and the response is very fluid. No lag at all.

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QUOTE(ltwvince @ Jan 30 2020, 05:02 PM)
It also have Bluetooth out with is great to use with my over the ear headset.
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that is new, excellent.

does it do BT in too?


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post Jan 30 2020, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 30 2020, 05:22 PM)
that is new, excellent.

does it do BT in too?
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BT in of course it does. biggrin.gif

All smart tv that does BT will do BT in but not necessarily does BT out.

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QUOTE(ltwvince @ Jan 30 2020, 05:02 PM)
Just found this thread today. Been using my BK1X 60" for the last 2 weeks.

So far loving it. Been using it to watch Astro, Kodi for local videos from my NAS and other online streaming videos.

I would say this TV video upscaling from lower resolution is awesome. Tested as low as 480p video source and it works great.

It also have Bluetooth out with is great to use with my over the ear headset.

Android TV is 9.0 and the response is very fluid. No lag at all.
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can pm me how much and where u get it? thinking to get this model? is this wide color gamut model?

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post Feb 2 2020, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(fierdrop @ Jan 30 2020, 11:13 PM)
can pm me how much and where u get it? thinking to get this model? is this wide color gamut model?
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Bought it at RM3299 with 5 years Sharp warranty from ESH. So far they are they one I know have this model only during my survey 2-3 weeks ago.

Color is wide based on the specs but I'm not sure how to tell or what's the differences. So far I like the colours.

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QUOTE(ltwvince @ Feb 2 2020, 12:24 PM)
Bought it at RM3299 with 5 years Sharp warranty from ESH. So far they are they one I know have this model only during my survey 2-3 weeks ago.

Color is wide based on the specs but I'm not sure how to tell or what's the differences. So far I like the colours.
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I only can find this model at Harvey Norman website which is online. Can't find anywhere else. Btw. Al1x I thk price drop to clear stock now.
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QUOTE(ltwvince @ Jan 30 2020, 05:02 PM)
Just found this thread today. Been using my BK1X 60" for the last 2 weeks.

So far loving it. Been using it to watch Astro, Kodi for local videos from my NAS and other online streaming videos.

I would say this TV video upscaling from lower resolution is awesome. Tested as low as 480p video source and it works great.

It also have Bluetooth out with is great to use with my over the ear headset.

Android TV is 9.0 and the response is very fluid. No lag at all.
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Mind to side load a CPU-Z or AIDA64 to check what's the SOC used in this model?

Wonder does it upgrade the HW compare to AL1X series.
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post Feb 3 2020, 08:13 PM

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https://www.lcdtvthailand.com/review/8305/S...?Page=1&id=8305

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post Feb 6 2020, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(fierdrop @ Feb 2 2020, 02:33 PM)
I only can find this model at Harvey Norman website which is online. Can't find anywhere else. Btw. Al1x I thk price drop to clear stock now.
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The last round I checked, no one has this BK1X model except the ESH store I bought from in Kepong. When I bought them, they told me this model was just released a month ago, that was 3 weeks ago.
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post Feb 6 2020, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Feb 3 2020, 05:06 PM)
Mind to side load a CPU-Z or AIDA64 to check what's the SOC used in this model?

Wonder does it upgrade the HW compare to AL1X series.
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Will try when I have the time to side load CPU-Z.
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QUOTE(ltwvince @ Feb 6 2020, 11:45 AM)
Will try when I have the time to side load CPU-Z.
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AIDA64 should be available in the Google Play Store of the Sharp TV.
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QUOTE(cstan61 @ Feb 6 2020, 01:00 PM)
AIDA64 should be available in the Google Play Store of the Sharp TV.
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Yup, i read my AL1X TV using AIDA64 from playstore.
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post Feb 20 2020, 11:22 PM

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The SOC on this BK1X is ARM-Cortex-A55 @ 1.44GHz.
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post Feb 26 2020, 06:40 AM

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Just bought 4tc60bk1x from tbm dpulze for rm3299+rm100 for extended 5year warranty.

I heard from the sa that sharp is currently got stock issue for this model as i went to ESH no stock for all outlet.
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Did they remove HDCP 2.2 from the HDMI ports?
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post Mar 1 2020, 09:28 AM

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Will check when i receive the tv. They arrange delivery this afternoon.
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post Mar 1 2020, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(John Chaser @ Mar 1 2020, 09:08 AM)
Did they remove HDCP 2.2 from the HDMI ports?
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Why they should remove..?

My 6800X has also HDMI2.0a version,which support HDCP 2.2.
Btw,
watching Astro UHD channel 780 without problem.

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Hi all bros, i need help and advise on this model i just bought 4TC60BK1X but i really is noob on android tv. So far only see youtube and digital tv.

I read thru many posts on ATV here and follow the steps copy file from pc with x-plorer and plug into usb but then how to copy to the tv. I open kodi but inside all is empty files, how to add files/app for various channel.

I am very sorry i really is dunno much about ATV. Your help is greatly appreciated. If there is any already mentioned on other threads, please guide me there so i can read again.

Btw, how to use voice assistant. I saw the voice assistant icon but everytime I clicked on it, tried voice command, no response and it failed. Did I perform something wrong? In youtube voice command always is not recognized.

I bought from SenQ at RM3299 join their member additional 1yr warranty total 3 yrs. All your time to answer me is very much thanks from me.
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Forgot to mention, mine just was replaced with new unit last month due to one long line of semi dead pixels in the middle of the screen, from top to bottom.

They replaced it with new unit since mine was having screen issue in less than a month.
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This is newer ver as compare to 4TCAL1X, right? Is it mean 4TCAL1X discontinued? How is overall quality & performance of 4TCBK1X as compare to 4TCAL1X?
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QUOTE(stasio @ Mar 1 2020, 02:10 PM)
Why they should remove..?

My 6800X has also HDMI2.0a version,which support HDCP 2.2.
Btw,
watching Astro UHD channel 780 without problem.
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Well it just says hdmi 2.0a on this new model and it has no mention of hdcp 2.2.
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This BK1X model appears to be a lower end model compared to AL1X. Got the catalogue last nite and found that the "wide color" is found on even lower ended models while "real color" is on AL1X and the even more extravagantly named "real color pro" on the 8K model. Looking at the sequence of models in the catalogue, it starts with the 8K tv, followed by AL1X and then BK1X and the lower end models.

On the other hand, the BK1X has Bluetooth 5 vs 4 on the AL1X and the android version is 9 vs 8 on the AL1X. Sharp really likes to confuse the market.
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Any idea this sharp 4TCBK1X vs Panasonic GX800 AVFAN ????

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QUOTE(ltwvince @ Mar 2 2020, 07:10 PM)
Forgot to mention, mine just was replaced with new unit last month due to one long line of semi dead pixels in the middle of the screen, from top to bottom.

They replaced it with new unit since mine was having screen issue in less than a month.
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How to check/confirm the replacement TV is new not refurbished set? Thanks.
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QUOTE(shebbycs @ Apr 5 2020, 02:43 PM)
Any idea this sharp 4TCBK1X vs Panasonic GX800 AVFAN ????
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no idea... dunno anything about pana.
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QUOTE(shebbycs @ Apr 5 2020, 02:43 PM)
Any idea this sharp 4TCBK1X vs Panasonic GX800 AVFAN ????
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GX800 is obviously superior. There is no fight at all for BK1X vs GX800. if u need android just get a tv box for gx800.
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QUOTE(fierdrop @ Apr 6 2020, 09:30 AM)
GX800 is obviously superior. There is no fight at all for BK1X vs GX800. if u need android just get a tv box for gx800.
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may I know superior in what and why gx800 need tv box if the tv is superior?
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QUOTE(shebbycs @ Apr 6 2020, 02:27 PM)
may I know superior in what and why gx800 need tv box if the tv is superior?
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just google the spec for both im sure u will know when u compare. smile.gif
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QUOTE(fierdrop @ Apr 7 2020, 11:36 PM)
just google the spec for both im sure u will know when u compare. smile.gif
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I thought u already had the tv
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Can anyone share the memory RAM size of this model vs the older models?
Thanks
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Dear Owners of 4TCBK1X, can you help confirm or check the wired ethernet connection whether it is Fast Ethernet (100Mbps) or Gigabit Ethernet (1Gbps)?.. if you are using wired internet connection and your internet subscription (unifi, Maxis or Time) is more than 100 Mbps, then you can run Speedtest on your TV (you can either download speedtest from google play or run from web). If it's doesn't reach 100Mbps then it's FastE, if it goes beyond !00Mbps then most likely GigaE. I asked two different Lazada sellers, one says FastE, the other says GigaE... hmmm. Thanks for your help.

Got the answer.. FastE.. in the Thai 4TCBK1X review.. they took a picture of the ethernet connetion at 10/100.... hmm. It seems all 4K tv be it sony, samsung, LG and even sharp still use FastE. TQ

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QUOTE(rikiraikonnen @ May 26 2020, 11:28 PM)
Dear Owners of 4TCBK1X, can you help confirm or check the wired ethernet connection whether it is Fast Ethernet (100Mbps) or Gigabit Ethernet (1Gbps)?.. if you are using wired internet connection and your internet subscription (unifi, Maxis or Time) is more than 100 Mbps, then you can run Speedtest on your TV (you can either download speedtest from google play or run from web).  If it's doesn't reach 100Mbps then it's FastE, if it goes beyond !00Mbps then most likely GigaE.  I asked two different Lazada sellers, one says FastE, the other says GigaE... hmmm.  Thanks for your help.

Got the answer.. FastE.. in the Thai 4TCBK1X review.. they took a picture of the ethernet connetion at 10/100.... hmm.  It seems all 4K tv be it sony, samsung, LG and even sharp still use FastE. TQ
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Yea,all models mostly using 10/100 Fast Ethernet (100Mbps).
Using WiFi 5Gz ,you can get higher speed (if you need).
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QUOTE(stasio @ May 27 2020, 09:55 PM)
Yea,all models mostly using 10/100 Fast Ethernet (100Mbps).
Using WiFi 5Gz ,you can get higher speed (if you need).
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Yes but funny I read, if I'm not mistaken, the manual for Samsung 7400 recommends using CAT7 cable for wired ethernet connection. CAT7 is rated for 10G, kinda overkill for fastE (100Mbps) connection. I saw another manual from different brand recommending the use of CAT6. These recommendations can lead to different assumptions for users. You don't even need to use CAT5e.. CAT5 is enough for fastE. It's 2020 already, broadband products already offering way beyond 100mbps. Even powerline ethernet adapter can cater for up to 500mbps.

Did some quick reading, while there'll be no problem for 4k netflix or youtube but it'll pose some problem if you open 4k video from NAS or PC via local network.. bitrate problem.. even on 5Ghz wifi.
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QUOTE(rikiraikonnen @ May 28 2020, 11:16 PM)
Yes but funny I read, if I'm not mistaken, the manual for Samsung 7400 recommends using CAT7 cable for wired ethernet connection.  CAT7 is rated for 10G, kinda overkill for fastE (100Mbps) connection.  I saw another manual from different brand recommending the use of CAT6.  These recommendations can lead to different assumptions for users.  You don't even need to use CAT5e.. CAT5 is enough for fastE.  It's 2020 already, broadband products already offering way beyond 100mbps.  Even powerline ethernet adapter can cater for up to 500mbps. 

Did some quick reading, while there'll be no problem for 4k netflix or youtube but it'll pose some problem if you open 4k video from NAS or PC via local network.. bitrate problem.. even on 5Ghz wifi.
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the problem with big 4khdr files streaming is not so much about the TV ethernet port.
100mbps is good for most big files.
take a massive 80GB 2 hr long 4kdr ddatmos video... 80,000/2/60/60x8=88mbps.
it should do OK, but it may not.
the bottleneck is usually the tv player app, router or the pc.
the tv native player app sucks - low grade, poor with subs, some formats/types, navigation.
but this is normal as tv makers focus on displays and picture quality, not playback player, audio, networking.

if your files are big ones, it is better u get a separate box player to handle them, use the tv just for display.
if u search around, there are many users doing it with various boxes working with nas, samba, upnp, etc.
however, if your files r rather small like 10-20GB, it should be ok with just the tv - ethernet or wifi.
for that, i suggest u use kodi app from playstore for playback, it is superior to mx or vlc.
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what you getting in YouTube (enable Stats for nerds) playing really 4(8)K HDR files......color....bt.709 or bt.2020...?

sample:

user posted image

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QUOTE(ltwvince @ Jan 30 2020, 05:02 PM)
It also have Bluetooth out with is great to use with my over the ear headset.

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would like to know, does it lag/high latency for video playback? i.e sound slower than video.
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Just to check if anyone using the same tv got this problem. When i select dolby digital plus in the sound setting. I got no sound coming from the tv & q70r sound bar.
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Did CK1X series replaced BK1X series in the same year ?
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QUOTE(budakhops @ Jul 14 2020, 06:31 AM)
Just to check if anyone using the same tv got this problem. When i select dolby digital plus in the sound setting. I got no sound coming from the tv & q70r sound bar.
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u have dd+ setting in the tv?

i think this tv has dd only, nothing else.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 14 2020, 01:48 PM)
u have dd+ setting in the tv?

i think this tv has dd only, nothing else.
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Yup. Got dd+ in the setting.

Now got another issue. No sound coming out from tvzion. Other apps no problem.. This is after the latest update.
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hi, can't seem to find 4TC60CK1X in stores. i'm curious how much it will cost
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QUOTE(alvinddm @ Aug 1 2020, 05:33 PM)
hi, can't seem to find 4TC60CK1X in stores. i'm curious how much it will cost
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5K.....
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/sharp-4t...1244006114.html
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QUOTE(stasio @ Aug 1 2020, 08:02 PM)
Thanks for your reply.
Just got a quote from Bukit Tinggi shop (can't recall the shop name) rm3699 but stock not yet arrive.
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Is there a way to see (real) total usage period on my Sharp tv?
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Is there a way to see (real) total usage period on my Sharp tv?
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I think only in service menu.
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QUOTE(stasio @ Aug 21 2020, 12:20 PM)
I think only in service menu.
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Does anyone know how to get into BK1X service menu?
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anyone know if we can connect to this tv as wireless display ? if yes, what setting should i check on tv ? i tried few times could not detect the wireless display.

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