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QUOTE(mat2020 @ Jan 22 2020, 07:07 PM)
what make someone to be a good politician. currently im planning to this career path.
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Depends what is ur job position. If in charge of transport, then improve on public transport system first..... Not flying car. At this point, I be more than happy if they can just put a bloody bus schedule on every bus stops.
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QUOTE(mat2020 @ Jan 22 2020, 07:07 PM)
what make someone to be a good politician. currently im planning to this career path.
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What are your plans for this career path?
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post Jan 22 2020, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(mat2020 @ Jan 21 2020, 09:48 PM)
I will be focusing on:

1) Human capital development

2) Infrastructure

3) Public transport

4) Investment
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post Jan 22 2020, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Jan 21 2020, 10:31 PM)
I would do the following :-

1.) Cut the civil service by 50% - There are 1,600,000 civil employees at the moment. What ideas do you have for the private sector to absorb 800,000 jobs?
2.) Deregulate the economy and make corporate tax, income tax and GST to be 5% Also implement a state and local area income tax of 3% and 1% respectively. Economics and resources to be a state and local area matter rather than Federal matter, Federal government's responsibility is to manage defence, foreign policy, education, healthcare, national water, telecommunications and power grid and reserve bank. - The states already on insanely unequal footing. This would make it worse, not better. Also, dropping taxes so drastically would exacerbate the federal debt
3.) No more funding for any religious organizations, JAKIM, JAWI etc would be funded by Zakat only. - Good luck with your constituency
4.) Implement a Bill of Rights. - It is better if the common person has stronger understanding of legal matters/rights
5.) Free visas for Whites and Japanese, Koreans as well as Taiwanese who earn at least US$120,000 per year and they can operate her tax free on condition they hire at least 5 local persons. - Copy pasting SG/Aus/Western style may at best yield mixed results
6.) All 3rd world migrants sent home. - Hello inflation. Cost of services and goods will be through the roof, and we are going to be out priced by just about everyone. Although we "only" have 60% as many migrant workers, even modern automatic Gundam Robot Neo-Japan has over 1.6 million of em
7.) All oil palm plantations to be demolished and rain forests to be replanted then sold as carbon credits with a very sustainable logging policy. - Rain forests do not grow over night, and there is a reason why palm oil is in demand. We do not plant it just for fun, and it CAN be planted sustainably. Alternatives are arguably even more carbon expensive
8.) Proton to be 100% sold to Geely, Perodua 100% sold to Daihatsu and be taxed like any other car. Cars to be taxed based upon real world fuel economy and emissions, then by weight and dimensions. Motorbikes banned. New national rail system and strong emphasis on rail transport. - Yes rail transport improvement should be lauded. Ownership of Proton/Perodua, eh, is it even important enough to care?
9.) Pro-America and Pro-Europe policies. - Insanely short sighted. I could type up a huge storm about this topic
10.) 2-term limit on PM, MPs and judiciary. The following to be elected by the public :- President, PM, MPs, Senators, State legislators, City Councillors and mayors as well as state police commissioners. - Sure why not. More power to the people.
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post Jan 23 2020, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Jan 22 2020, 11:20 PM)

1.) There are 1,600,000 civil employees at the moment. What ideas do you have for the private sector to absorb 800,000 jobs?

2.) The states already on insanely unequal footing. This would make it worse, not better. Also, dropping taxes so drastically would exacerbate the federal debt

3.) No more funding for any religious organizations, JAKIM, JAWI etc would be funded by Zakat only. - Good luck with your constituency

4.) Implement a Bill of Rights. - It is better if the common person has stronger understanding of legal matters/rights

5.) Copy pasting SG/Aus/Western style may at best yield mixed results

6.) Hello inflation. Cost of services and goods will be through the roof, and we are going to be out priced by just about everyone. Although we "only" have 60% as many migrant workers, even modern automatic Gundam Robot Neo-Japan has over 1.6 million of em

7.) Rain forests do not grow over night, and there is a reason why palm oil is in demand. We do not plant it just for fun, and it CAN be planted sustainably. Alternatives are arguably even more carbon expensive

8.) Yes rail transport improvement should be lauded. Ownership of Proton/Perodua, eh, is it even important enough to care?

9.) Pro-America and Pro-Europe policies. - Insanely short sighted. I could type up a huge storm about this topic


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1.) There are ways to do so, naturally many of them retire each year and easiest to just not replace them. It can be done over 3-10 years.

2.) You also seem to forget that with such a low tax regime it would spur plenty of economic growth and 80% of people pay no taxes at all in this country. If implemented properly that low tax rate probably will bring in more money than it does now.

3.) It has to be done in stages.

4.) A Bill of Rights is a good starting point.

5.) Any immigration policy will have its pros and cons. However it is better to have high value ones than those from less desirable 3rd world places.

6.) Are you sure on this?? Do you realize it cost equally as much if not more in wages to hire foreign labor? Again it has to be done in stages.

7.) There are fast growing trees and there is always bamboo as well. Having as much oil palms are essentially putting all eggs in 1 basket.

8.) My point is there won't be a national car program any longer. Rail and public transport would be the main stay of transportation and it should also be one of the main drivers of economic growth.

9.) Why??
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post Jan 23 2020, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Jan 21 2020, 10:31 PM)
I would do the following :-

1.) Cut the civil service by 50%
2.) Deregulate the economy and make corporate tax, income tax and GST to be 5% Also implement a state and local area income tax of 3% and 1% respectively. Economics and resources to be a state and local area matter rather than Federal matter, Federal government's responsibility is to manage defence, foreign policy, education, healthcare, national water, telecommunications and power grid and reserve bank.
3.) No more funding for any religious organizations, JAKIM, JAWI etc would be funded by Zakat only.
4.) Implement a Bill of Rights.
5.) Free visas for Whites and Japanese, Koreans as well as Taiwanese who earn at least US$120,000 per year and they can operate her tax free on condition they hire at least 5 local persons.
6.) All 3rd world migrants sent home.
7.) All oil palm plantations to be demolished and rain forests to be replanted then sold as carbon credits with a very sustainable logging policy.
8.) Proton to be 100% sold to Geely, Perodua 100% sold to Daihatsu and be taxed like any other car. Cars to be taxed based upon real world fuel economy and emissions, then by weight and dimensions. Motorbikes banned. New national rail system and strong emphasis on rail transport.
9.) Pro-America and Pro-Europe policies.
10.) 2-term limit on PM, MPs and judiciary. The following to be elected by the public :- President, PM, MPs, Senators, State legislators, City Councillors and mayors as well as state police commissioners.
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Seems you, a half-White man who identifies as fully White by appearance, wants Malaysia to be like USA, eg states have a lot of rights, eg state police and state laws.

You also have a lack of empathy towards poor folks who have to ride motorbikes, ie they could not afford to buy costly new cars that have been stacked with excise duties.
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post Jan 23 2020, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Jan 23 2020, 01:50 AM)
1.) There are ways to do so, naturally many of them retire each year and easiest to just not replace them. It can be done over 3-10 years.

2.) You also seem to forget that with such a low tax regime it would spur plenty of economic growth and 80% of people pay no taxes at all in this country. If implemented properly that low tax rate probably will bring in more money than it does now.

3.) It has to be done in stages.

4.) A Bill of Rights is a good starting point.

5.) Any immigration policy will have its pros and cons. However it is better to have high value ones than those from less desirable 3rd world places.

6.) Are you sure on this?? Do you realize it cost equally as much if not more in wages to hire foreign labor? Again it has to be done in stages.

7.) There are fast growing trees and there is always bamboo as well. Having as much oil palms are essentially putting all eggs in 1 basket.

8.) My point is there won't be a national car program any longer. Rail and public transport would be the main stay of transportation and it should also be one of the main drivers of economic growth.

9.) Why??
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1. JPA has already frozen hiring for years. Waiting for them to retire is not the solution. Luckily there ARE solutions, and they are being implemented.

2. Considering your pro-white bent, I am surprised that you are going for the low tax route. Them progressive white countries (Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands, Canada, Norway) have some pretty insane taxes, either in the form of VAT, income or corporate tax. But yeah, if we want to be a tax haven, there has to be some sort of incentive for them to do so, apart from just low tax. What ideas do you have?

3. I am not even going to address this due to cultural sensitivities, other law makers can handle it.

4. Considering (again) point #3, any Bill of Rights would be controversial at best, and impossible to implement at worst due to strong opposition.

5. It is doubtful that free visas for whites, Koreans, Japanese or Taiwanese would entice them to come here to bust our tables. High value is not a universal term that can be applied across the board. Businesses are not hiring 'less desirable 3rd worlders' just for fun ya know. There is a point to it.

6. Yes I am sure. Because if it costs equally, if not more to hire foreign labour, exactly WHY is it done? Is it because corporate bosses speak <3rd world language> better than English/BM?

7. No, palm should not be our only agricultural product. However, again there is a very good reason why it is in high demand. It is not like we grow them and then throw them into the sea or something.

8. No other country has a national car program. It may have been relevant 30 years ago, but not anymore. Due to our geographical location, another form of hightech heavy industry should replace it. Again luckily, it is slowly being implemented.

9. Oh sure, you can adopt things like IP law, aerospace and maritime standards, accounting/architectural/engineering standards etc. Or even stuff like Western Values, progressive ideology (democracy, meritocracy etc). But other things like trade policies, foreign policies, security etc? Hell no. Why? Because they give no shits about us. We are not even their neighbours, we have zero leverage on them. They have no incentive to have our best interest at heart, as their priorities are their OWN constituents first, meaning there will be a conflict of interest. A stronger SEA bloc would be the desired goal, not someone a million miles away. Just because the guys at the nicer neighbourhood have nicer houses does not mean that they should be parents to your children. If anything else, you should concentrate on making your own neighbourhood nicer for a start.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 23 2020, 11:13 AM)
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Seems you, a half-White man who identifies as fully White by appearance, wants Malaysia to be like USA, eg states have a lot of rights, eg state police and state laws.

You also have a lack of empathy towards poor folks who have to ride motorbikes, ie they could not afford to buy costly new cars that have been stacked with excise duties.
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Yup. This dude comes across as someone who has only seen KL on TV or something, rather than actually living in it.
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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Jan 23 2020, 11:14 AM)
Yup. This dude comes across as someone who has only seen KL on TV or something, rather than actually living in it.
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To be exact, BillCollector lived in PJ from 1 to 11 years old, lived in USA and UK from 11 yo to 31 y o, somehow became a nominal Christian while in USA and moved back to north PJ from 31 y o to till now 42 y o because he was "tricked" into marrying a pregnant Malaysian Chinese girl while working in UK.
....... His dream was to marry a good White girl but his pursuit for riches/money got in the way. .......

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4612114/+920 - post #934
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 23 2020, 12:33 PM)
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To be exact, BillCollector lived in PJ from 1 to 11 years old, lived in USA and UK from 11 yo to 31 y o, somehow became a nominal Christian while in USA and moved back to north PJ from 31 y o to till now 42 y o because he was "tricked" into marrying a pregnant  Malaysian Chinese girl while working in UK.
....... His dream was to marry a good White girl but his pursuit for riches/money got in the way. .......

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4612114/+920 - post #934
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yus, I know

but that is the thing, he comes across as someone like that. not even politician/law maker yet, but already so detached from the realities of MY
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QUOTE(mat2020 @ Jan 21 2020, 09:48 PM)
I will be focusing on:

1) Human capital development

2) Infrastructure

3) Public transport

4) Investment
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This is all naive talk.

Just because you wanted to do it, you think others just gonna allow you to do it? This is why it calls a Politic.
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QUOTE(mat2020 @ Jan 21 2020, 09:48 PM)
I will be focusing on:

1) Human capital development

2) Infrastructure

3) Public transport

4) Investment
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For me it will be

1) reduce govt overreach (ie making the govt leaner and less powerful) and improve checks and balances (eg 2 term PM limit)

2) military

3) restoring the Federal Constitution of Malaysia as the supreme law of the land.

4) freedom of speech and expression.

5) drain the swamp (similar to 1 but specifically corruption)

6) quality education (purely secular and according to worldwide standard)

7) deregulation (also similar to 1 but with focus on easing market driven initiatives)

8) law enforcement (similar to 4 but targeting your common crooks, and double parkers and queue cutters)

9) separation of religion and state.

10) reduce dependency on foreign labor

11) infrastructure

12) greening the environment

That should cover all my free time in my 2 term as PM.
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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jan 23 2020, 01:05 PM)
2) military

10) reduce dependency on foreign labor

11) infrastructure
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YB, how do you intend to achieve #10?

Also, what sort infrastructure improvements and military changes do you propose?

I must point out, #1 automatically makes the subsequent 10 items that much harder to implement.

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