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 Ceramic coating vs PPF vs quarterly wax?, cost vs effectiveness vs suitability

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TSwild_card_my
post Jan 19 2020, 12:26 PM, updated 6y ago

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My pre-registered car is coming soon and I want to protect its paint from the get go. My main objectives for the car:

1. Remain looking looking as beautiful as on display at the dealers
2. To keep the cost below the budget of RM5,000, this can be one-off, or be part of the maintenance payments (for example, wash and wax for RM300 every three-months means the budget can last for four years)
3. To have manageable maintenance schedule and I would rather pay someone to do it than having to do it myself. The cost for maintenance should be chalked into the budget above. I do not have too much time on my hands, I haven't washed my own cars for at least a decade

With these options that I have, which would best suit my criteria above?:

1. applying a ceramic coating
2. installing PPF
3. applying quarterly polish/wax

I understand that it may not be possible to keep my car just as beautiful when it was new, but it is not wrong to try. Look at the car below on display, which is NOT my car, but I love how beautiful the paint shines

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post Jan 19 2020, 12:28 PM

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Who the heck waxes and polish every 2months? I think you'll do more harm than good to the paint. If you've already have ceramic coating don't go polish it off, just do bi-weekly normal soap wash. Don't wash under the sun to avoid water spots.

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post Jan 19 2020, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(thxxht @ Jan 19 2020, 12:28 PM)
Who the heck waxes and polish every 2months? I think you'll do more harm than good to the paint.
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I dont know, so what is the interval for the wax and polish? how much would they cost?
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post Jan 19 2020, 12:29 PM

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PPF to protect front of car. Don't need whole car.

Then wax every 2-3months.
Don't polish unless the shine is gone

Ceramic coating can't protect your car from stone chips btw
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post Jan 19 2020, 12:32 PM

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post Jan 19 2020, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 19 2020, 12:29 PM)
PPF to protect front of car. Don't need whole car.

Then wax every 2-3months.
Don't polish unless the shine is gone

Ceramic coating can't protect your car from stone chips btw
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If I PPF, do I still need to polish and/or wax the car?

Would the car look more beautiful with PPF or wax? Or can/should I do both?

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post Jan 19 2020, 12:34 PM

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I've basically tried all these so called nano coating, PPF or whatever they call it. I would say these stuff do work but not in the long run.

Your car will still be exposed to Malaysia's hot sun and rain. The worst part is rain water which are baked under the hot sun which produces 'watermarks'. Nano-coating or whatever shit they called it can't prevent watermarks.

My suggestion is save the cash and send your car for frequent car washes and apply wax every month or 2. Do a 3 step polish and wax annually and you're good to go.
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post Jan 19 2020, 12:36 PM

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Now where is that chap that spent RM599 for a wax job for a new Bezza/Axia
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 19 2020, 12:29 PM)
I dont know, so what is the interval for the wax and polish? how much would they cost?
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Some ceramic coatings will last 5 years, no polish require, just regular washing. That said it's not completely fool proof, you'll still get stains, waterspots, swerly marks overtime, it's just resistant to them. After 5 years do a complete polishing and apply the coating again.
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u can try yus detailing auto at bukit jelutong, best of both world tevo coating.
and its cheap too , about 800 iinm , u can check their work at their fb page

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post Jan 19 2020, 12:37 PM

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If it’s going to be your everyday ride, don't have such wishful thinking.
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post Jan 19 2020, 12:38 PM

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5k can repaint the whole car new new after you abuse it kao kao
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post Jan 19 2020, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jan 19 2020, 12:34 PM)
I've basically tried all these so called nano coating, PPF or whatever they call it. I would say these stuff do work but not in the long run.

Your car will still be exposed to Malaysia's hot sun and rain. The worst part is rain water which are baked under the hot sun which produces 'watermarks'. Nano-coating or whatever shit they called it can't prevent watermarks.

My suggestion is save the cash and send your car for frequent car washes and apply wax every month or 2. Do a 3 step polish and wax annually and you're good to go.
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I see, so you confirmed my suspicion. I don't like the looks of my car to be up to the dealers; after going for maintenance I am afraid they will tell me that there was only two free maintenance while the rest is not free anymore, or they would just hold my car and do very basic maintenance. Not like I can viral the shit out of them

How much for a good (monthly) wax? Is there a difference between the monthly wax you mentioned and the annual wax?

Keep in mind that I am a car-care noob, but this is my first conti so I think it would be best to takegood care of it.
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post Jan 19 2020, 12:39 PM

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later drive behind lori bonnet paint all chip off wat coating oso no use
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post Jan 19 2020, 12:39 PM

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I PPF my wife’s front and ceramic coat the rest.

Of course weekly washing I diy myself (don’t trust other people to wash properly), 2 bucket system, top up occasionally with silica spray (Carpro reload etc).

Washing is much easier with coating, not much hassle.

Cost wise iirc around 6k all in - gguard since they’re the official distributor for xpel.
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Scratched ceramic coating is harder to remove compared to clear coat. Simple polish doesn't work.
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Jan 19 2020, 12:28 PM)
Who the heck waxes and polish every 2months? I think you'll do more harm than good to the paint. If you've already have ceramic coating don't go polish it off, just do bi-weekly normal soap wash. Don't wash under the sun to avoid water spots.
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waxes yes, depend on type of wax. polish no, once a year at most
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 19 2020, 12:34 PM)
If I PPF, do I still need to polish and/or wax the car?

Would the car look more beautiful with PPF or wax? Or can/should I do both?
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Polish is when car shine not there, it's to remove very thin layer of clear coat btw, so it's not for you to do it frequently

Wax is added a layer of shine.
Wax it every 2-3months.

Once shine becomes dull, or for watermarks or thin layer of dirt that can't be washed off, only polish.
Then wax.


PPF is protection against stone chips, front bumper, hood, front wheel area. (Like screen protector)
Need to wax

This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jan 19 2020, 12:43 PM
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post Jan 19 2020, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Satori 14118a @ Jan 19 2020, 12:37 PM)
If it’s going to be your everyday ride, don't have such wishful thinking.
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Yeah it is going to be my everyday ride. I didn't pay RM240k for an orange conti to keep it at home hahaha

QUOTE(takr @ Jan 19 2020, 12:39 PM)
I PPF my wife’s front and ceramic coat the rest.

Of course weekly washing I diy myself (don’t trust other people to wash properly), 2 bucket system, top up occasionally with silica spray (Carpro reload etc).

Washing is much easier with coating, not much hassle.

Cost wise iirc around 6k all in - gguard since they’re the official distributor for xpel.
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GGuard is OK is it? They have promotion for their most expensive package, front-end cover RM2150 for M size car (my G20).

QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 19 2020, 12:42 PM)
Polish is when car shine not there, it's to remove very thin layer of clear coat btw, so it's not for you to do it frequently

Wax is added a layer of shine.
Wax it every 2-3months.

Once shine becomes dull, or for watermarks or thin layer of dirt that can't be washed off, only polish.
Then wax.
PPF is protection against stone chips, front bumper, hood, front wheel area. (Like screen protector)
Need to wax
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oh, like polishing shoes

Now I am partial between the few options. maybe wax the whole car, then PPF front-end for RM2150..

What is a good order of things?
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post Jan 19 2020, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 19 2020, 12:38 PM)
I see, so you confirmed my suspicion. I don't like the looks of my car to be up to the dealers; after going for maintenance I am afraid they will tell me that there was only two free maintenance while the rest is not free anymore, or they would just hold my car and do very basic maintenance. Not like I can viral the shit out of them

How much for a good (monthly) wax? Is there a difference between the monthly wax you mentioned and the annual wax?

Keep in mind that I am a car-care noob, but this is my first conti so I think it would be best to takegood care of it.
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Waxing is basically applying a thin layer of protection onto your car paint which gives it a smooth finishing and water beading effect. Dirt will less likely stick onto your car thus won't get dirty as fast after rain. However, this layer of wax will eventually wear off. That is why you should apply it once every month or 2.

Polish on the other hand will remove a very fine layer of your paint's clear coat. This process normally will eliminate those minor scratches and swirl marks accumulated during car wash & etc. That is why you shouldn't do polishing too frequently.

My current practice is wash the car on a weekly basis and self apply a quick layer of liquid wax (e.g. Turtle wax liquid carnuaba, Ice wax or etc). Will only do polish when the paint has accumulated lots of swirl marks.

If you can park your car in a sheltered car park, it is even better as this will prevent watermarks from etching onto your car paint.

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