My preregistered car is coming soon and I want to protect its paint from the get go. My main objectives are for the car:

1. Remain looking looking as beautiful as on display at the dealers
2. To keep the cost below the budget of RM5,000, this can be one-off, or be part of the maintenance payments (for example, wash and wax for RM200 every two months means the budget can last for four years)
3. To have a manageable maintenance, I would rather pay someone to do it than having to do it myself. The cost for maintenance should be chalked into the budget above

I understand that it may not be possible to keep my car just as beautiful when it was new, but it is not wrong to try. Look at the car below on display, it is NOT my car, but I how beautiful the paint shines

With these options that I have, which would be best suit my criteria above?:

1. applying a ceramic coating
2. installing PPF
3. applying bi-monthly wax



This post has been edited by wild_card_my: Jan 19 2020, 12:25 PM

I have done pps teflon coating in Sunway before. I don’t really keep track on how good it heads over time but sure the first few months it was amazing. After that I got lazy to keep going back to the shop to keep washing the car using their specific wash. But after 7 years I sold the car and though it didn’t bead as before but the paint was still pretty good.

I did a cheap rm300 diamond 9H coating for my next car and for the price I paid it was pretty good. After 3-4 months I find the water isn’t as beady as the first day but still shiny after a wash. Don’t mind going to redo it in a Years time since so bloody cheap.

I did a a carpro quartz 3.0 and car pro gliss (3 layers ) for my super bike over the weekend. Since the bike is red in colour and red paint doesn’t last long in our hot sun. After the treatment it’s shiny and reflective like mirror now but gotta see how long that last. The guy says to come back in 6 months time to apply recoat and has a 5 year warranty. Cost is Rm1800 for a whole car but bike is half price off so why not for 5 years I don’t have to worry. But the guy is a one man show so need to leave it there as he takes like a whole day to do it, I think it’s better when one person does the job. At least there will be consistency in the work but that’s just me.

This post has been edited by sparketh: Jan 19 2020, 12:38 PM

thanks for the detailed reply.

Ok as it is now I am so against the PPF because I do not like maintenance and keeping up with a schedule, especially after I have paid for it.

So for my Sunset Orange car, do you think I would just be best served with a "cheap RM300" coating? When you said coating, what do you mean? is this wax? Car detailing noob here, but I simply want to care my first conti car well.

Of the cheap coating I did was the diamond coating 9H. You can see many reviews about those cheap eBay 9H coating and generally reviews say it’s pretty good. Don’t expect it to last long but hey if after 1 year to pay another 300 then why not. Afterall those expensive coatings also need maintenance and scratch removal after a year anyway. Only thing the application skill of those guys are like kinda budget like the budget I pay. All rm300’kinda work. Like the door jams they didn’t clean, the boot also and the petrol tank area. Ish... but oh well.

You may consider coating. Try to search this on FB

MR.Razi 9H-Nano Ceramic Coating ON-WheeL
Vehicle detailing service

How much does that cost?

Im not sure about the pricing but a lot of positive feedback.

sparketh said he did it for RM300

Yer the one I did in Puchong whole car was rm300 for the cheap diamond coating. Can search fb, Adiwira ceramic. But all the cheap ones are about the same. Just go surgery which boss is friendly and go for it.

Beware of the over-polishing, has the same mindset as you and sent my car for yearly polish and coating, some area already faded due to overpolishing, especially the rear view mirror the paint has come off. Of coz the shop won't admitted and ask back what happened when I revisit.
hints... same shop.

but it is possible to wax without polishing right? if we do it right, we may not need to polish that often since the waxing would only add another layer on top of the clear coat (or on top of the previous wax that still remains)

Personally I find PPF to be the best to guard against pesky chips from stones. The other easy option is to send Your car for weekly wash. I wash all my 4 cars with a high pressure water jet weekly then clay when needed. Looks good so far. My friends whom did coatings claim it doesn’t stop water mark nor stops stone chips. He decides to go wrap as its much cheaper than ppf

I think this is my plan for my new car:

1. Send it to install M-performance parts (just for looks)
2. Send it for waxing
3. Send it for front-side PPF

What do you think?

1. Ok
2. Just do waterwet. I don’t particularly like wax as dust and debris will stick on it. Then when you wash your car, rubbing the surface with the dirty wax may scratch the car.
3. Best option but costly.

You still need to use cleaner wax/polish every 6 months because of heavy road grime and water mark. Unless your car parked indoor 24x7 then without polish/wax maintenance it will still looks nice after 5 years.
I knew a friend staying in condo, park indoor all the time at condo and office. Driving back and forth timing nice without rain. His car only got dust which can blew away using leaf blower and paintwork still nice nice.

This post has been edited by voscar: Jan 20 2020, 10:03 AM

well if it is too much work I guess Ill just have to send the car for detailing every 6 months. I guess if I send it to the shops they will know to use cleaner ahead of time. How much do you reckon this wax/polish service would cost me? Or I could just ask the shop below my condo

Frequent polish is not a concern. Problem is almost 90% of detailing/car wash shop in Malaysia doing roti canai job. All they knew is putting polish cream in the rotary sponge and turn it on putting pressure on your car and let it spin spin spin. FYI my car is VW which supposed to have thicker clear coat compare to cheaper national car, yet my paint already faded after 4 visits for polishing job outside due to "overpolishing"

if we do not polish, but only wax; and polish every year or 2 years, would that work to keep the shine of my car? i keep it under the roof most times when parked

By the way guys, any good car coating shop recommended in kulai/senai/skudai/jb area?

Polish only when there are water spots / grime / road tar that can't remove with normal washing.

Wax is one layer of shine that will fade away 2-3months.

If your car is always parked indoor, don't have polish frequently as watermark won't build up cuz no rainwater

Btw PPF is meant to protect from stone chips, your front bumper gonna have lots of tiny dots after driven 1year.

There are many grades of polish.
Some are corrosive, some aren't abrasive while some are abrasive

Bangla don't know the difference.

but if I drive in the rain, then park indoor, the water would take some time to dry off. Would i be better off wiping it away? I assume that the wax I have applied would make it easier for me to wife the water off the surface

Is it correct that the wax is the thing that makes the color stand out, shiny and all? Like how it is in the showroom

Depending on how you want to take care of the car paint. Cause if just wipe, the dust will scratch the paint. Since you have a layer of coat or wax, it will scratch those instead. So it's sort of still protecting the base coat. As for shiny, you need to constantly go wash your car and apply coat. It also depend on your coat brand/quality. Some will last 1 month, some 3 months and some 6 months.

Currently I am experimenting using shampoo that can easy use for cleaning after rain. There are lots of such products out there from meguiar's to turtle wax to sonax to triplewax to rainx and so on. Spray on and then wipe and buff. Doesn't clean tough stains but if only rain water, it is sufficient.

This post has been edited by abubin: Jan 20 2020, 04:55 PM

where can get rm300 coating? pls pm me...

Yes, it will airdry but this will likely leave watermarks/dust where the beads are.

If your car has a layer of wax, try get those Quik Detailers or Spray Waxes [Meg's Quik Detailer etc] to spray on and wipe off with a clean towel. Avoid wiping water from your car without any form of product as you risk scratching the car with the towel. Usually I keep a bottle of either Waterless Wax or Quick Detailer in my boot for these quick fixes.

Polish is key for the shine to come forth and paint imperfections to be removed, and wax is like the sacrificial layer that helps lock it in or gives some form of barrier, hence the water beading/hydrophobic effect you tend to see on cars that have been detailed/coated.

Coating does not last long especially if you send your car to a car wash shops and weather in malaysia greatly affects the coats. So dont blame shop if they dont do job well... just go for a annual visit maintenance

Some of them uses strong chemicals to remove the coats. I was told by ceramic pro not to visit the ones they mention

Nowadays have new tech of coating where they spray both ceramic nano coating and PPF onto the car body ( the ppf technology identical to rubberdip ) but very expensive. Most likely rich cars do it only

Ceramic Pro's Magnus PRO PPF includes their hydrophobic technology on their PPFs.

ppf and rubber dips are different la.

i may know about PPF, but what are rubber dips?

Plasti dip

I prefer paint correction and then ppf. And maybe ceramic coating on top of ppf.

plastidip is too expensive here to be worth using for body paint. Plus it is hard to get the spray to be evenly done. For wheels or emblems, it's fine.

Anyone heard of Ceramic Pro before? (https://www.ceramicpro.com.my)

As I am about to do with them too for my new car. Not sure if im making the right decision, as initially i wanted to go for full car wraps.

They do a lot of ads on facebook and their website is very well created. I also almost went for them. If not mistaken their price is like RM499 for the cheapest one, right? Maybe you go try and then let us know?

LOL..personallly, I won't go for expensive coating cause if like 2k for coating, I might as well go for PPF wrapping.

yea correct, will try out soon and see what is the different.

mine done with 3M. already 6 month , the paint still look glossy and easy to wash and wipe . no stain mark so far after raining. wash car once a week.

What treatment did you do? Wax? Coating? What is the name of that package?

And how much did you pay for it?

Keep your 5000..after 5 year use it to respray..u will get a new paint.

Dont get cheated by some asking u to 4 layer polish wax on new car

yeah I do not plan to coat it. Maybe just wax lah to upkeep its appearance

3M product coating. around rm2200 ( can touch up 2 times )
at by 3M shop

Go for good quality PPF since you have the money. It can reduce the possibility of stone chips especially front bonnet and bumper, which coating and wax will not protect against stone chip.

well that's the most flexible and easy to fix paint. You're right good for dechrome and other plastic surfaces.

I will avoid "coating" for now, will rely on waxing monthly/bi-monthly/quarterly and polishing when required (when it doesn't glow anymore) perhaps once a year

Coating takes too much money upfront and I still have to give it way too much care, more than I can be bothered with

PPF is an option, especially the frontal parts. But I may forgo it completely, like someone said, it seems like a condom for your condom. The money saved can be used to respray the car 4 years down the road, or I will just buy a new car. Here's the G20 330i CBU 2019