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post Jan 17 2020, 02:17 PM, updated 6y ago

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post Jan 17 2020, 02:22 PM

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1.5T just nice enough the power?

They making 1.4T so can have 4 cylinders?
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better than x70?
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post Jan 17 2020, 02:26 PM

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post Jan 17 2020, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(msacras @ Jan 17 2020, 02:22 PM)
1.5T just nice enough the power?

They making 1.4T so can have 4 cylinders?
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yes.. some ppl komplent 3 cyclinder not good
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post Jan 17 2020, 02:28 PM

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can believe ke?? 0-100km/h 加速时间为 7.9 秒
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post Jan 17 2020, 02:29 PM

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3 Cylinder Engine vs 4 Cylinder Engine

https://www.cars24.com/blog/3-cylinder-engi...ylinder-engine/

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 17 2020, 02:28 PM)
can believe ke?? 0-100km/h 加速时间为 7.9 秒
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Volvo claimed their S60 T8 can do 0-100 in 4.4s. But independent tests show only 5.1s, so please take these numbers from manufacturer with a grain of salt

Go to 3:21 for the results

edit: how do I YOUTUBE-TAG timstamp???



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post Jan 17 2020, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(destee88 @ Jan 17 2020, 02:27 PM)
yes.. some ppl komplent 3 cyclinder not good
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3 cylinder vibration teruk because its not balanced
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Jan 17 2020, 02:29 PM)
Comment section people post how the info is wrong.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 17 2020, 02:31 PM)
Volvo claimed their S60 T8 can do 0-100 in 4.4s. But independent tests show only 5.1s, so please take these numbers from manufacturer with a grain of salt

Go to 3:21 for the results

edit: how do I YOUTUBE-TAG timstamp???


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You right click the video > “Copy video URL at current time”

Edit: sorry misunderstood question. Instead of ?t=201 you put ?start=201




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post Jan 17 2020, 02:49 PM

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u try driving 318i 3cyl

see whether u like it or not.
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Jan 17 2020, 02:37 PM)
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China T-Roc.

This is smaller than a Tiguan looking at the numbers.
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post Jan 17 2020, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Nomac @ Jan 17 2020, 02:40 PM)
You right click the video > “Copy video URL at current time”

Edit: sorry misunderstood question. Instead of ?t=201 you put ?start=201
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I tried both ?start and ?t

Same results

Can you show an example of timestamped youtube linm that is tagged properly in this forum? I will look at your source

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 17 2020, 02:56 PM)
I tried both ?start and ?t

Same results

Can you show an example of timestamped youtube linm that is tagged properly in this forum? I will look at your source
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I updated my post above with example
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post Jan 17 2020, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Nomac @ Jan 17 2020, 02:58 PM)
I updated my post above with example
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Perfect. Thank you bro

Anyway, I tried to look for S60 0-100kmh test since it was touted to be done in 4.4s by Volvo. I havent seen it reach that by anyone independently. In fact only 1 video shows the test as tagged, and they can only get 5.1s.

My maruah tercabar a bit because my 330i G20 can only do 5.6s - independently tested despite BMW claiming only 5.8s. BMW is known to understate their car performance, which is nice. Volvo's claims of the S60 T8 doing 4.4s when only the BMW G20 M340i can reach that figure says a lot of about this Geely-owned company - that they peddle mistruths

I am so tercabar.

edit: Oh right, since Geely-owned Volvo is overstating their timings, I bet Geely would pressure one of their Malaysian subsidiary to do the same too. 7.1S? That is BMW G20 320i performance, a 2.0 Turbo

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post Jan 17 2020, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(destee88 @ Jan 17 2020, 02:17 PM)
Aiyaa.. confirmed dy ah?
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 17 2020, 03:59 PM)
Aiyaa.. confirmed dy ah?
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not konfirm just sharing there is possibility
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QUOTE(destee88 @ Jan 17 2020, 04:00 PM)
not konfirm just sharing there is possibility
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I want the 1.5 tebu sad.gif
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post Jan 17 2020, 04:22 PM

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I want 1.5 tebu volvo

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post Jan 17 2020, 04:32 PM

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My Mrs colleagues asking her to get this and not the kia picanto I want her to get. Fml
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post Jan 17 2020, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(FlyingVCLplayer @ Jan 17 2020, 04:22 PM)
I want 1.5 tebu volvo
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potong x50 will not use volvo engine models .. still geely made engines just 1.5T this one share tehnology with volvo .. actually this is Lynk & Co 1.5T engines just geely model is downgrade model

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QUOTE(destee88 @ Jan 17 2020, 04:40 PM)
potong x50 will not use  volvo engine models .. still geely made engines just 1.5T this one share tehnology with volvo
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1.5 3 cyclider is volvo la. Same like XC40 T3 drive E
1.4 turbo yes, it's geely engine.

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QUOTE(FlyingVCLplayer @ Jan 17 2020, 04:43 PM)
1.5 3 cyclider is volvo la.  Same like XC40 T3 drive E
1.4 turbo yes, it's geely engine.
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for ur infor XC40 T3 engine code is not same as potong aka geely X50 .. as potong X50 using engine code JLH-3G15TD, same as Lynk & Co 1.5T engines while XC40 T3 engine code is B3154T for ptetrol version

ple dun confuse and thought potong X50 actually is volvo XC40 T3 .. it cannot be .. like that who wanna buy volvo since potong edy using volvo engines .... volvo become low standard liao

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QUOTE(destee88 @ Jan 17 2020, 04:54 PM)
for ur infor XC40 T3  engine code is not same as potong aka geely X50 .. as potong X50 using  engine code  JLH-3G15TD, same as Lynk & Co 1.5T engines while XC40 T3  engine code is B3154T for ptetrol version
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Different code same engine? Because volvo use 8 speed auto and can pair with EV

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QUOTE(FlyingVCLplayer @ Jan 17 2020, 04:57 PM)
Different code same engine? Because volvo use 8 speed auto and can pair with EV
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is not same engine .. for ur infor u can read more at unker google .. dun simply mislead ppl k
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QUOTE(destee88 @ Jan 17 2020, 04:59 PM)
is not same engine .. for ur infor u can read more at unker google .. dun simply mislead ppl k
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Its the same engine...

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QUOTE(destee88 @ Jan 17 2020, 04:59 PM)
is not same engine .. for ur infor u can read more at unker google .. dun simply mislead ppl k
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It's the same engine family.

Geely employ different engine code and also because Geely use with with different transmission and different tuning.

dun simply mislead ppl k

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QUOTE(FlyingVCLplayer @ Jan 17 2020, 05:06 PM)
Its the same engine...

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is same volvo architecture internally is not same la .. u no belief u go ask volvo engineer XC40 1.5 actually is potong upcoming SUV engines, and see how they reply u
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QUOTE(FlyingVCLplayer @ Jan 17 2020, 05:06 PM)
Its the same engine...

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different engines can have different performance due to different tuning and hardware

320i, 520i, and 330i for example have the same B48 2.0L TC engines, but they churn out different numbers for all sorts of reasons

Obviously 320i owners will claim (and rightly) that their engines are the same as the better performing 330i engine, but we all know they are just jelly console.gif
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 17 2020, 05:20 PM)
different engines can have different performance due to different tuning and hardware

320i, 520i, and 330i for example have the same B48 2.0L TC engines, but they churn out different numbers for all sorts of reasons

Obviously 320i owners will claim (and rightly) that their engines are the same as the better performing 330i engine, but we all know they are just jelly  console.gif
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With that being said, it's possible right to tune the B48 in a 320i to the same level as the 330i? My yesterday's research found that B48 is kinda reliable for a conti
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 17 2020, 05:20 PM)
different engines can have different performance due to different tuning and hardware

320i, 520i, and 330i for example have the same B48 2.0L TC engines, but they churn out different numbers for all sorts of reasons

Obviously 320i owners will claim (and rightly) that their engines are the same as the better performing 330i engine, but we all know they are just jelly  console.gif
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It's funny some people.

When Myvi launched, all clamoring that it's the same engine as Toyota Vios despite different engine code, hardware, tuning, material and power output (2NRFE and 2NRVE)

But when Geely use same engine family, oh noes cannot be same as volvo coz jatuh air muka Volvo.

As for your BMW examples, alot of times they have different output so they can segment the cars into their respective price brackets, without having to implement costly hardware changes.

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aiyoh, so many rumours, leaks,... bila mau launch, neck very long now laugh.gif
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QUOTE(manypplwan @ Jan 17 2020, 05:26 PM)
With that being said, it's possible right to tune the B48 in a 320i to the same level as the 330i? My yesterday's research found that B48 is kinda reliable for a conti
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BMW makes it harder for this to happen. Sure, some workshops will tell you that they can get it done, but I would have none of it. If you are doing it for fun then no problem because you are not concerned about reliability

I am sure there are hardware and low-level codes that cannot be modified that differentiate the B48 used by different models

QUOTE(dares @ Jan 17 2020, 05:28 PM)
As for your BMW examples, alot of times they have different output so they can segment the cars into their respective price brackets, without having to implement costly hardware changes.
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This is true. This is also called product binning. Intel/AMD and other chip makers do this all the time.

Every price for every customer segment, so they can maximize profit.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 17 2020, 06:32 PM)
BMW makes it harder for this to happen. Sure, some workshops will tell you that they can get it done, but I would have none of it. If you are doing it for fun then no problem because you are not concerned about reliability

I am sure there are hardware and low-level codes that cannot be modified that differentiate the B48 used by different models
This is true. This is also called product binning. Intel/AMD and other chip makers do this all the time.

Every price for every customer segment, so they can maximize profit.
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I notice bmw malaysia website delete their 1 series pricing...does this mean they wont sell 1 series anymore in malaysian market?? ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 17 2020, 05:36 PM)
I notice bmw malaysia website delete their 1 series pricing...does this mean they wont sell 1 series anymore in malaysian market?? ohmy.gif
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that is the F20 right? the F40 is coming in?
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 17 2020, 06:38 PM)
that is the F20 right? the F40 is coming in?
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Im a fan of the laest 1 series and i drop to bmw glenmarie ask sA when launch here she also cant confirm and ask me take X1 instead zzz
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 17 2020, 05:40 PM)
Im a fan of the laest 1 series and i drop to bmw glenmarie ask sA when launch here she also cant confirm and ask me take X1 instead zzz
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For sales people like me, a bebird in pants is more precious than two birds that promise to buy an X1 once they are released in the future; if you get what I mean laugh.gif laugh.gif

anyway, the nex 1 series is FF ok? like the A class. You really want that? btw, what is BMW's equivalent to the A45 AMG? That thing is a monster.4-wheel drive, 500++ Nm. The RM320k Civic type R is a piece of shit compared to the RM350k A45 AMG

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Why fund manager loves bmw?


I mean people like you.


Inbe4 petrol head rupanya

QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 17 2020, 03:02 PM)
Perfect. Thank you bro

Anyway, I tried to look for S60 0-100kmh test since it was touted to be done in 4.4s by Volvo. I havent seen it reach that by anyone independently. In fact only 1 video shows the test as tagged, and they can only get 5.1s. 

My maruah tercabar a bit because my 330i G20 can only do 5.6s - independently tested despite BMW claiming only 5.8s. BMW is known to understate their car performance, which is nice. Volvo's claims of the S60 T8 doing 4.4s when only the BMW G20 M340i can reach that figure says a lot of about this Geely-owned company - that they peddle mistruths

I am so tercabar.

edit: Oh right, since Geely-owned Volvo is overstating their timings, I bet Geely would pressure one of their Malaysian subsidiary to do the same too. 7.1S? That is BMW G20 320i performance, a 2.0 Turbo
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 17 2020, 05:57 PM)
Why fund manager loves bmw?
I mean people like you.
Inbe4 petrol head rupanya
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No no no I am not a petrol head. I just enjoy the finer things in life. You wont catch me talking about modifying a Honda Civic or a Myvi back into a Daihatsu

Also I am not a fund manager, I am only an insurance agent
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 17 2020, 05:45 PM)
For sales people like me, a bebird in pants is more precious than two birds that promise to buy an X1 once they are released in the future; if you get what I mean  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

anyway, the nex 1 series is FF ok? like the A class. You really want that? btw, what is BMW's equivalent to the A45 AMG? That thing is a monster.4-wheel drive, 500++ Nm. The RM320k Civic type R is a piece of shit compared to the RM350k A45 AMG
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Civic type r is now 320k? Wow. Previous one was just 200k.


No wonder a45 everywhere.
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 17 2020, 06:02 PM)
Civic type r is now 320k? Wow. Previous one was just 200k.
No wonder a45 everywhere.
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If you buy Civic Type R (ketam, the 200k was probably the old circle lights) new when the A45 AMG (real AMG, not AMG line) can be had for RM350k, then you have some serious decision making issues or just a Honda fanboy. Bodoh Honda and their FF setup. It is not about taxes, it is about Honda Malaysia cashing in the clueless ah bengs and upgraded rempits

Look at the UK prices:

40k UK pounds vs RM350k A45 AMG

30k UK pounds vs RM330k Civic Type R



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X50 faster come la, I want buy 2 biji let, cash in hand already...
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 17 2020, 06:04 PM)
If you buy Civic Type R (ketam, the 200k was probably the old circle lights) new when the A45 AMG (real AMG, not AMG line) can be had for RM350k, then you have some serious money issues or just a Honda fanboy
 

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Yea fd2r was just 200k. I guess the usd conversion rate is the reason .

Ketam type r too fanboyish
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 17 2020, 06:06 PM)
Yea fd2r was just 200k. I guess the usd conversion rate is the reason .

Ketam type r too fanboyish
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200k acceptable for this TypeR. But not RM320k. Crazy. I bet it is more than the currency conversion, more like Honda Malaysia making as much moolah as they can on clueless racerboys.

If you have self-respect and RM300k, just get the continental
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QUOTE(LimauKering @ Jan 17 2020, 03:49 PM)
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thia particular china, geely, own volvo..

ptui Volvo also?

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QUOTE(destee88 @ Jan 17 2020, 02:27 PM)
yes.. some ppl komplent 3 cyclinder not good
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i think ppl complain 3 point mounting vs 4 point mounting rather than 3 cylinder vs 4 cylinder.

cmiiw, but 4 cylinder engine commonly comes with..4 point mounting?
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jan 17 2020, 06:25 PM)
i think ppl complain 3 point mounting vs 4 point mounting rather than 3 cylinder vs 4 cylinder.

cmiiw, but 4 cylinder engine commonly comes with..4 point mounting?
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1. 3 cylinder is naturally imbalance, it will vibrate
2. 3 cylinder engine mounting ranges from cheap to expensive, cheap one like perodua, interior will feel the vibration
expensive one like ford fiesta will make sure the vibration doesn't reach the interior/driver
so you're gonna pay more when the mounting is worn

and no.3 is what i found out recently, not just 1 case but many case already
they all will say my engine vibrate...like "boss, your engine vibrate oh"
apparently many(including people working in the car industry) do not know that 3 cylinder engine will vibrate
and they take u like some stupid people and say your engine vibrate to lower your resale value
so if u own a 3 cylinder engine car, chances of u being low balled when u sell is very high
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