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post Jan 17 2020, 09:12 AM, updated 6y ago

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India Superpower 2020: Tracing the brief history of a spectacularly incorrect prediction

Meanwhile, the other countries of South Asia are quietly moving past India, offering better living standards to their people.

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for a brief period around the turn of the millennium, some people were convinced that 2020 would be the year India would become a superpower.

Given that we are now in 2020, we know this isn’t true – not by a long shot. Far from being a superpower, living standards in India are rather low compared to the rest of the world

the man who started it all was APJ Abdul Kalam.

In 1998, Kalam and YS Rajan, also a government scientist, co-authored a book called India 2020: A Vision for the New Millennium.

The book had a simple message: “A developed India, by 2020 or even earlier is not a dream. It need not even be a mere aspiration in the minds of many Indians. It is a mission we can we can all take up­ and accomplish.”


Much of the book is a meandering set of wildly optimistic forecasts, powered more by an impressionable sense of patriotism than any relevant data. In many ways, the book’s style is a long-form precursor to the millions of patriotic WhatsApp messages that would flood smartphones two decades later.

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Reality: 30% of world's poor live in India

In 2008, a decade after his book was published, Kalam brought forward India’s rendezvous date with superpowerdom to 2012. “Though I have envisioned India to become a superpower by 2020, the attitude and the confidence of the youth, to conquer everything in the right spirit, would make the country a global leader and super power within five years,”

Collective delusion

To make things even more surreal, this idea – the India was just around the corner to becoming a fully developed industrialised economy and superpower– entered policy and politics at the highest levels. In 2002, Prime Minister Vajpayee’s Independence Day speech argued that the aim of his government was to “make India a developed nation by 2020”.

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As of today, India is very far away from being an upper-middle-income country (it would need to double its per capital gross national income to enter that bloc). Like its Raj siblings, Pakistan and Bangladesh, India is a lower-middle-income country. However, India’s small southern neighbour, Sri Lanka did quietly, unheralded by superpower prophecies, become an upper-middle-income country in 2019.

Unlike a Vietnam or Bangladesh, India was unable to develop mass manufacturing industries. In fact, the unemployment rate in 2017-’18 stood at a 45-year old high following the Modi government’s disastrous move to demonetise high value currency notes.


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In spite of the fact that the original superpower 2020 prediction was widely off the mark, versions of it continue to survive (even if they pop up far less frequently now). During the 2019 Lok Sabha elections, BJP President Amit Shah promised voters that India would become a superpower by 2024 if Narendra Modi was voted back as prime minister. Earlier in 2018, Union minister Jitendra Singh claimed that Modi would fulfil Kalam’s “Vision 2020” – although, wisely he did not mention by which year.

In the first few decades after Independence, East and South East Asia raced past India. Now, experts such as economist Amartya Sen have flagged the fact that India is even losing out to its South Asian neighbours such as Bangladesh, Nepal and Sri Lanka, who are being able to offer their people better standards of living.

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Sauce: https://scroll.in/article/948319/india-supe...rect-prediction

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post Jan 17 2020, 09:15 AM

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post Jan 17 2020, 09:17 AM

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Credit where credit is due... They are of the few with nuclear power. Plus they did send something into space last year eventhough it crashed.
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QUOTE(internaldisputes @ Jan 17 2020, 09:17 AM)
Credit where credit is due... They are of the few with nuclear power. Plus they did send something into space last year eventhough it crashed.
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Misplaced priority. Hence why India can't developed similarly like China
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post Jan 17 2020, 09:19 AM

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yes. super power with import country and no toilet some more no clean water.
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super power at their men bottom
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 17 2020, 09:15 AM)
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if u work with yindia yindian u will know how they like to boast and argue
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India wrong move, become USA loyal dog, blindly follow usa advice and democracy

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QUOTE(internaldisputes @ Jan 17 2020, 09:17 AM)
Credit where credit is due... They are of the few with nuclear power. Plus they did send something into space last year eventhough it crashed.
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Yes. Together with pakistan and north korea.


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QUOTE(killeralta @ Jan 17 2020, 09:46 AM)
India wrong move, become USA loyal dog, blindly follow usa advice and democracy
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 17 2020, 10:06 AM)
Yes. Together with pakistan and north korea.
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Important questions is why India cannot similarly like China?

Both huge country with huge market
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 17 2020, 11:13 AM)
Important questions is why India cannot similarly like China?

Both huge country with huge market
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Its like asking why mexico cannot be like singapore.

Or why Philipines cannot be like japan.


For a country with billion people. Democracy is a dead end.

How do you please 1 billion voters?

You give them more than 20 official languages
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QUOTE(internaldisputes @ Jan 17 2020, 09:17 AM)
Credit where credit is due... They are of the few with nuclear power. Plus they did send something into space last year eventhough it crashed.
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North korea has nuke too. North korea has ICBM too, so they could send human into orbit if they didnt care about reentry lel


LMAO
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post Jan 17 2020, 12:07 PM

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And he probably get that idea from thanos
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no toilet how can be super power..
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India indians like to blow hot air and argue they are the best lol.
Same like some here in /k. Can't win argument, putar halim and play victim.

Like Vision/Wawasan 2020. Kek.

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Bring in the memes guys

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QUOTE(zerozero00 @ Jan 17 2020, 12:32 PM)
India indians like to blow hot air and argue they are the best lol.
Same like some here in /k. Can't win argument, putar halim and play victim.

Like Vision/Wawasan 2020. Kek.
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We malaysian already acknowledge that our wawasan 2020 has failed.

But yindia is adamant they can still be superpower. Even last year in 2019 they said they will be superpower by 2024 . That's crazy
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jan 17 2020, 12:04 PM)
North korea has nuke too. North korea has ICBM too, so they could send human into orbit if they didnt care about reentry lel
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North Korea managed to miniaturized their nukes to put in ICBM already?

I thought if want to put nukes in missiles, it needs to be small.
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QUOTE(killeralta @ Jan 17 2020, 09:46 AM)
India wrong move, become USA loyal dog, blindly follow usa advice and democracy
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Got news recently, yindia said russian jet engine sucks - so they don't want to collaborate with russia for the new 5th gen fighter jets.

Like really topkek lol biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(internaldisputes @ Jan 17 2020, 09:17 AM)
Credit where credit is due... They are of the few with nuclear power. Plus they did send something into space last year eventhough it crashed.
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Ok, for the efforts, I rate it a B, B for bobs.

Try again next time.
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thats what you get when you segregate your people by caste and religion instead of giving prosperity to all


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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 17 2020, 01:18 PM)
We malaysian already acknowledge that our wawasan 2020 has failed.

But yindia is adamant they can still be superpower. Even last year in 2019 they said they will be superpower by 2024 . That's crazy
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LOL, typical india indians. It's like a salesman telling his boss to give him his full bonus/commissions despite being far below the sales target and say, "I'm confident I can hit the same target in 4 years' time".

india is a joke. Only their population is big, so investors see huge market. That's all
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India Superpower 2020: Tracing the brief history of a spectacularly incorrect prediction

Meanwhile, the other countries of South Asia are quietly moving past India, offering better living standards to their people.

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for a brief period around the turn of the millennium, some people were convinced that 2020 would be the year India would become a superpower.

Given that we are now in 2020, we know this isn’t true – not by a long shot. Far from being a superpower, living standards in India are rather low compared to the rest of the world

the man who started it all was APJ Abdul Kalam.

In 1998, Kalam and YS Rajan, also a government scientist, co-authored a book called India 2020: A Vision for the New Millennium.

The book had a simple message: “A developed India, by 2020 or even earlier is not a dream. It need not even be a mere aspiration in the minds of many Indians. It is a mission we can we can all take up­ and accomplish.”


Much of the book is a meandering set of wildly optimistic forecasts, powered more by an impressionable sense of patriotism than any relevant data. In many ways, the book’s style is a long-form precursor to the millions of patriotic WhatsApp messages that would flood smartphones two decades later.

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Reality: 30% of world's poor live in India

In 2008, a decade after his book was published, Kalam brought forward India’s rendezvous date with superpowerdom to 2012. “Though I have envisioned India to become a superpower by 2020, the attitude and the confidence of the youth, to conquer everything in the right spirit, would make the country a global leader and super power within five years,”

Collective delusion

To make things even more surreal, this idea – the India was just around the corner to becoming a fully developed industrialised economy and superpower– entered policy and politics at the highest levels. In 2002, Prime Minister Vajpayee’s Independence Day speech argued that the aim of his government was to “make India a developed nation by 2020”.

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As of today, India is very far away from being an upper-middle-income country (it would need to double its per capital gross national income to enter that bloc). Like its Raj siblings, Pakistan and Bangladesh, India is a lower-middle-income country. However, India’s small southern neighbour, Sri Lanka did quietly, unheralded by superpower prophecies, become an upper-middle-income country in 2019.

Unlike a Vietnam or Bangladesh, India was unable to develop mass manufacturing industries. In fact, the unemployment rate in 2017-’18 stood at a 45-year old high following the Modi government’s disastrous move to demonetise high value currency notes.
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In spite of the fact that the original superpower 2020 prediction was widely off the mark, versions of it continue to survive (even if they pop up far less frequently now). During the 2019 Lok Sabha elections, BJP President Amit Shah promised voters that India would become a superpower by 2024 if Narendra Modi was voted back as prime minister. Earlier in 2018, Union minister Jitendra Singh claimed that Modi would fulfil Kalam’s “Vision 2020” – although, wisely he did not mention by which year.

In the first few decades after Independence, East and South East Asia raced past India. Now, experts such as economist Amartya Sen have flagged the fact that India is even losing out to its South Asian neighbours such as Bangladesh, Nepal and Sri Lanka, who are being able to offer their people better standards of living.

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Sauce: https://scroll.in/article/948319/india-supe...rect-prediction
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Yindia punya putar halim already at superpower level, u dont play play.

Using their mouth already can transform yindia to superpower, see how many wimnin they rape every minute, they not yet superpower but already celebrate by raping their wimmins upside down
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Yindia punya putar halim already at superpower level, u dont play play.

Using their mouth already can transform yindia to superpower, see how many wimnin they rape every minute, they not yet superpower but already celebrate by raping their wimmins upside down
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Using their mouth already can transform yindia to superpower.

Yup can see that in zakar naik. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Brusky @ Jan 17 2020, 02:10 PM)
Using their mouth already can transform yindia to superpower.

Yup can see that in zakar naik.  biggrin.gif
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Yup they still putar halim say wont charge zakar naik so yindian citizen will stop protest in kashmir..

Putar halimm!!
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india is once great ancient civilisation


influencing south east asia... south asia.. even china itself
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Important questions is why India cannot similarly like China?

Both huge country with huge market
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Sometimes if you put yourself into the minds of these countries with insanely huge population (China for example), there's really no other way to propel to word number 1 in such a short time other than communism or dictatorship. Like what the previous reply stated, how do you please more than 1 billion voters and stick to nation's goals every 4-5 years? Every time a country changes party in a democratic country, they have different agendas and policies to roll out. Unlike China, it takes 1 man/president/party to push a single goal all the way for many years. Democracy is not perfect, neither is communism.
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QUOTE(pandawan @ Jan 17 2020, 02:21 PM)
Sometimes if you put yourself into the minds of these countries with insanely huge population (China for example), there's really no other way to propel to word number 1 in such a short time other than communism or dictatorship. Like what the previous reply stated, how do you please more than 1 billion voters and stick to nation's goals every 4-5 years? Every time a country changes party in a democratic country, they have different agendas and policies to roll out. Unlike China, it takes 1 man/president/party to push a single goal all the way for many years. Democracy is not perfect, neither is communism.
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how da hell US also with insane population grow? hmm.gif
i think they are looking at US...
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QUOTE(pandawan @ Jan 17 2020, 02:21 PM)
Sometimes if you put yourself into the minds of these countries with insanely huge population (China for example), there's really no other way to propel to word number 1 in such a short time other than communism or dictatorship. Like what the previous reply stated, how do you please more than 1 billion voters and stick to nation's goals every 4-5 years? Every time a country changes party in a democratic country, they have different agendas and policies to roll out. Unlike China, it takes 1 man/president/party to push a single goal all the way for many years. Democracy is not perfect, neither is communism.
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+1

But that's not the answer we are looking for here
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 17 2020, 09:19 AM)
Misplaced priority. Hence why India can't developed similarly like China
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That's the least of it

With the kind of admin and direction they going now, is way worse
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Haishhhh, I'm more concerned about our own Vision 2020 failure. So sad that we are regressing so much.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jan 17 2020, 02:25 PM)
how da hell US also with insane population grow? hmm.gif
i think they are looking at US...
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a) US is twice larger than India

b) even now US has less than 1/3 India pop

c) It took US democracy over 100 years to mature after it had industrialized (it's still very flawed)

So it's not a comparison at all.
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superpower what rakyat merempat 2/3 live in poverty
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Oi.. you don't cb.

Yindia superpower okay
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North Korea managed to miniaturized their nukes to put in ICBM already?

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no not yet. it's there, but still needs testing.

they just successfully managed to testflight icbm and/or warhead with maneuvering capability. so up next in the agenda should be miniaturized nuc warhead.
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how da hell US also with insane population grow? hmm.gif
i think they are looking at US...
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Jan 17 2020, 02:42 PM)
a) US is twice larger than India

b) even now US has less than 1/3 India pop

c) It took US democracy over 100 years to mature after it had industrialized (it's still very flawed)

So it's not a comparison at all.
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US also not as superpower as before. I read somewhere in the aftermath of world war 2 and during cold war, USA produced 50% of the world's GDP. Truly superpower

Now not anymore
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no not yet. it's there, but still needs testing.

they just successfully managed to testflight icbm and/or warhead with maneuvering capability. so up next in the agenda should be miniaturized nuc warhead.
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Their ICBM also fully functional? I thought always crash at sea of Japan? hmm.gif
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how da hell US also with insane population grow? hmm.gif
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USA is a 2 party system.

And its republic style.



China is 1 party system, also republic style.


If you believe real democracy (where you have have 20 parties) can get strong like China or US, you are dreaming.


The rest of the western countries got rich by colonizing and raping the world before ww2.

The only countries updated their life (from zero to hero) and status are


China
Japan( colonizing by US)
Korea (colonizing by US)
Germany (colonizing by US)


No other countries changed after ww2.

But i can list out a few countries from Hero to Zero after ww2.





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Their ICBM also fully functional? I thought always crash at sea of Japan? hmm.gif
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They got missile.

Not ICBM.


They cant travel that far.



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US also not as superpower as before. I read somewhere in the aftermath of world war 2 and during cold war, USA produced 50% of the world's GDP. Truly superpower

Now not anymore
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Super power is not looking at GDP la.


If use GDP,

can Japan consider super power and sit with US , China and Russia?
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Super power is not looking at GDP la.
If use GDP,

can Japan consider super power and sit with US , China and Russia?
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India now upgrade liaoo, bolehland bila lagi
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Their bullet train project getting stalled and dragged thru local politics

Kesian japan got stuck

Meanwhile locally Kashmir railway 20 year plus still haven't completed. And most of the issue is not engineering related
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post Jan 17 2020, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 17 2020, 03:21 PM)
USA is a 2 party system.

And its republic style.
China is 1 party system, also republic style.
If you believe real democracy (where you have have 20 parties) can get strong like China or US, you are dreaming.
The rest of the western countries got rich by colonizing and raping the world before ww2.

The only countries updated their life (from zero to hero) and status are
China
Japan( colonizing by US)
Korea (colonizing by US)
Germany (colonizing by US)
No other countries changed after ww2.

But i can list out a few countries from Hero to Zero after ww2.
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China zero?

I thought China always superpower status
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post Jan 17 2020, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(awang @ Jan 17 2020, 12:10 PM)
no toilet how can be super power..
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later they'll develop shit powered electric generator baru tahu
seiferalmercy
post Jan 17 2020, 04:46 PM

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if they can build toilets AND use it considered success dy
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post Jan 17 2020, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Kamus Dewan @ Jan 17 2020, 03:31 PM)
Not 2030 leh?

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post Jan 17 2020, 04:56 PM

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The real superpower of India.
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post Jan 17 2020, 05:13 PM

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The reason India so undevelop is due to misplace priority in development

Instead focus high labour manufacturing they focus on high capital industry
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post Jan 17 2020, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 17 2020, 11:13 AM)
Important questions is why India cannot similarly like China?

Both huge country with huge market
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One thing I see is everything is so cheap in India, while everything is expensive in China..

A proper satisfying food in china might be around USD4 per meal, while in India around USD1 only, or maybe less..

Cheap cost of living drag average salary down

Lesser tax paid,

Lower country income..

But while lower salary benefits company operation cost, it still hurst as imported things like nuclear technology or machines are still expensive.

Thats what I casually see lah.
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post Jan 18 2020, 01:43 AM

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post Jan 18 2020, 03:49 AM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 17 2020, 03:21 PM)

The only countries updated their life (from zero to hero) and status are
China
Japan( colonizing by US)
Korea (colonizing by US)
Germany (colonizing by US)
No other countries changed after ww2.

But i can list out a few countries from Hero to Zero after ww2.
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Bro, don't forget that freaking red dot south of us.... biggrin.gif

Actually, I think Oman did quite decently as well. For a country that was incredibly backwards in the 1960s and has almost no natural resources....
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post Apr 13 2020, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jan 17 2020, 02:16 PM)
Yup they still putar halim say wont charge zakar naik so yindian citizen will stop protest in kashmir..

Putar halimm!!
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Ya ya putar!
SUSUnstability
post Apr 13 2020, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jan 17 2020, 02:04 PM)
Yindia punya putar halim already at superpower level, u dont play play.

Using their mouth already can transform yindia to superpower, see how many wimnin they rape every minute, they not yet superpower but already celebrate by raping their wimmins upside down
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U have such great insights about India! Bravo! Bravo!

 

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