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TSLez Pall
post Jan 15 2020, 03:15 PM, updated 6y ago

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https://www.funtasticko.net/risik-proton-x7...n-jimat-minyak/

If you malas baca, here got TL:DR summary

- 1.8T paired with 7DCT gearbox, engine now has 15nm more torque(300nm) and DCT is backed up with 5 years unlimited mileage warranty

- Faster 0-100kmh(9.5 vs 10.5 sec) and fuel economy (7.5 vs 7.8l/100km)

- Power tailgate on Exec and Premium (foot sensor opening for Premium)

- Two new color options, one of which is Ruby Red

- Ventilated front seats which direct cold air onto your back and bottom(Exec and Premium)



Price dunno yet, but likely gonna be retained from CBU

Please, let everything in this report be true, especially those ventilated seats 😂



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post Jan 15 2020, 03:19 PM

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Report says that 1.5T was planned initially but now the CKD will only come with 1.8T. The smaller engine might be reserved for X50.
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Lez Pall @ Jan 15 2020, 03:15 PM)
https://www.funtasticko.net/risik-proton-x7...n-jimat-minyak/

If you malas baca, here got TL:DR summary

- 1.8T paired with 7DCT gearbox, engine now has 15nm more torque(300nm) and DCT is backed up with 5 years unlimited mileage warranty

- Faster 0-100kmh(9.5 vs 10.5 sec) and fuel economy (7.5 vs 7.8l/100km)

- Power tailgate on Exec and Premium (foot sensor opening for Premium)

- Two new color options, one of which is Ruby Red

- Ventilated front seats which direct cold air onto your back and bottom(Exec and Premium)
Price dunno yet, but likely gonna be retained from CBU

Please, let everything in this report be true, especially those ventilated seats 😂
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why not yet flying car?

i want to book if any

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post Jan 15 2020, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(bukechi @ Jan 15 2020, 03:19 PM)
why not yet flying car?

i want to book if any

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Why not ask the third national carmaker, Dreamedge to make it

They are partnering with Daihatsu/Perodua, the originators of Myvi which is known for flying
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:26 PM

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specs macam best je...hopefully the driving experience will be better too
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(vinoth @ Jan 15 2020, 03:26 PM)
specs macam best je...hopefully the driving experience will be better too
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More torque+better gearbox and Proton involvement with Ride & Handling. Should be noticeably better to drive than current CBU.
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:30 PM

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Sunroof retain or not?
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:30 PM

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Power tailgate hnggghhh
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:32 PM

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now really tempted to upgrade wife's car to this hmm.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 15 2020, 03:30 PM)
Sunroof retain or not?
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Premium got two versions, no sunroof and with sunroof.

Hopefully the one with sunroof has a thicker or opaque sunroof cover. I myself notice the cover is too thin for the CBU model.
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 15 2020, 03:30 PM)
Sunroof retain or not?
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Yes for top spec. Now can buy premium without sunroof and premium with sunroof
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:35 PM

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1.8T+7DCT is faster than stated, with testing in China getting a time of 9.06 seconds according to automachi

https://www.automachi.com/2020/01/geely-boy...dct-0-100-test/
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Lez Pall @ Jan 15 2020, 03:32 PM)
Premium got two versions, no sunroof and with sunroof.

Hopefully the one with sunroof has a thicker or opaque sunroof cover. I myself notice the cover is too thin for the CBU model.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 15 2020, 03:32 PM)
Yes for top spec. Now can buy premium without sunroof and premium with sunroof
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2 premium variant? So confusing..


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post Jan 15 2020, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 15 2020, 03:40 PM)
2 premium variant? So confusing..
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Have to please differing market needs I guess. Some want the nappa leather but don't want to deal with a moving glass panel on the roof.

And now that the slow selling Exec AWD is no more, can make room for variants that could potentially sell more.
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:46 PM

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All reports pointing to no price drop... do you think this will affect the sales? hmm.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 15 2020, 03:40 PM)
2 premium variant? So confusing..
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yeah right?

but more flexible for buyers to choose

ok la, more sales later


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post Jan 15 2020, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jan 15 2020, 03:46 PM)
All reports pointing to no price drop... do you think this will affect the sales? hmm.gif
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The current CBU prices are already very good value as is. I don't think anyone will complain if specs go up but prices stay the same.

With gov mulling to restructure tax and duty rates of automobiles, who knows what effect it will have on the price sold.
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jan 15 2020, 03:46 PM)
All reports pointing to no price drop... do you think this will affect the sales? hmm.gif
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actually no price drop but add features should be the correct strategy... else the current CBU range market price will drop a lot also, then existing owners rage... see now many old models saga owner rage since new saga cost lesser... so can expect minimal price drop for top spec...
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QUOTE(Lez Pall @ Jan 15 2020, 03:51 PM)
The current CBU prices are already very good value as is. I don't think anyone will complain if specs go up but prices stay the same.

With gov mulling to restructure tax and duty rates of automobiles, who knows what effect it will have on the price sold.
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QUOTE(mango27 @ Jan 15 2020, 03:53 PM)
actually no price drop but add features should be the correct strategy... else the current CBU range market price will drop a lot also, then existing owners rage... see now many old models saga owner rage since new saga cost lesser... so can expect minimal price drop for top spec...
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But we've been used to CKD = cheaper price... (whether adding features or not)
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Lez Pall @ Jan 15 2020, 03:28 PM)
More torque+better gearbox and Proton involvement with Ride & Handling. Should be noticeably better to drive than current CBU.
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Dont make me laugh la.


Proton ride and handling ,LMAO
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jan 15 2020, 03:54 PM)
But we've been used to CKD = cheaper price... (whether adding features or not)
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probably the standard variant cut a few k then call it a day biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mango27 @ Jan 15 2020, 03:57 PM)
probably the standard variant cut a few k then call it a day  biggrin.gif
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They better be... else ppl will rage why no price drop.
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jan 15 2020, 03:59 PM)
They better be... else ppl will rage why no price drop.
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Dont worry.

Poor fag cannot afford. Richfag wouldnt bother.


The one that will buy, will buy it anyway.
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:00 PM

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We'll see if the GKUI system is an updated version with nicer graphics.

If you check out Wapcar's review of the Binyue, it has a more modern GKUI system and the interface is way cleaner looking with more streamlined fonts and icons on the menu screens.
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:00 PM

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wait for X50 with ( CBU ) ??
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:01 PM

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yes, i will wait for x50, more cost effective
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:04 PM

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Who cares about AWD when you have seats that prevents your buns from overheating laugh.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:06 PM

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While everyone waiting for CKD, I shall wait for this interior for pro.. probably years..

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My biggest concern is the DCT.

After VW issue with the DCT makes me worry if it can last 10 years or more which is min how long poor folks like me keep their cars
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(edmondyjh @ Jan 15 2020, 04:01 PM)
yes, i will wait for x50, more cost effective
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Different purpose. X70 is for if you want something that is almost luxurious. X50 is for those that want all the tech and features but lighter, faster and easier to maneuver.
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 15 2020, 04:06 PM)
My biggest concern is the DCT.

After VW issue with the DCT makes me worry if it can last 10 years or more which is min how long poor folks like me keep their cars
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No worries. Warranty 5 years.

Plus freeman1 said now dct no more problem like before
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 15 2020, 04:11 PM)
No worries. Warranty 5 years.

Plus freeman1 said now dct no more problem like before
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What about after 5 years.

Will it overheat going up to genting or Cameron like the Passat recently
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 15 2020, 04:12 PM)
What about after 5 years.

Will it overheat going up to genting or Cameron like the Passat recently
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We don't know until it gets to the hands of owners and be driven.

But the least we should expect is better smoothness and fuel consumption, less jerkiness and hesitation to respond like a few owners have experienced with the CBU with 6AT.
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QUOTE(mango27 @ Jan 15 2020, 04:06 PM)
While everyone waiting for CKD, I shall wait for this interior for pro.. probably years..

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 15 2020, 04:06 PM)
My biggest concern is the DCT.

After VW issue with the DCT makes me worry if it can last 10 years or more which is min how long poor folks like me keep their cars
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VW issues with dry gearbox right? DCT - dual clutch transmission also VW have issues is it?
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x50 if too slow ill get x70 lor
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QUOTE(TAZIO.N @ Jan 15 2020, 04:17 PM)
I tot CKD interior same like this? hmm.gif
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Probably the next CKD facelift after 2-3 years with the enhanced exterior looks like the Boyue Pro as well rclxm9.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(TAZIO.N @ Jan 15 2020, 04:17 PM)
I tot CKD interior same like this? hmm.gif
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Nope, same interior as CBU, only gearknob and logos are different.

Maybe for a midlife revision in 2021 we will get this interior? Hope so.
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 15 2020, 04:12 PM)
What about after 5 years.

Will it overheat going up to genting or Cameron like the Passat recently
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DCT with 5 years unlimited mileage warranty is a bold statement from proton

no DCT ever lasted 5 years without any mechanical problem before
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post Jan 15 2020, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Lez Pall @ Jan 15 2020, 04:19 PM)
Nope, same interior as CBU, only gearknob and logos are different.

Maybe for a midlife revision in 2021 we will get this interior? Hope so.
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i do hope its soon too... but even X50 CKD is still far from reality, so its doubtful next year so soon...
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I like what Proton is doing here.

They know that the Boyue Pro would take too long to convert and retool for RHD and potentially too expensive for their main demographic so they choose to transplant some features of that car to the older X70, namely the powertrain, power tailgate and vented seats.
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QUOTE(mango27 @ Jan 15 2020, 04:25 PM)
i do hope its soon too... but even X50 CKD is still far from reality, so its doubtful next year so soon...
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I think they plan to go production of X50 in sept 2020.They already send lots of their manpower training at Xiangtan China for the past few months.So I think conlanfirm la this year...
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 15 2020, 03:57 PM)
Dont make me laugh la.
Proton ride and handling ,LMAO
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eh ok what Proton Ride and Handling. far better handling than P2.

or maybe since Lotus is under them directly, maybe have Lotus Handling badge instead laugh.gif
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better get cbu x50
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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 15 2020, 04:43 PM)
better get cbu x50
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yes it is ..
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QUOTE(destee88 @ Jan 15 2020, 04:45 PM)
yes it is ..
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go ask that insider bila mau launch x50, apanama 110xxxx
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 15 2020, 04:23 PM)
DCT with 5 years unlimited mileage warranty is a bold statement from proton

no DCT ever lasted 5 years without any mechanical problem before
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Still it remains to be seen how reliable it is.

Ppl in Malaysia keeps the cars for more than 10 years.. Some wira already approaching 20 years

Really doubt DCT can last so long
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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jan 15 2020, 04:41 PM)
eh ok what Proton Ride and Handling. far better handling than P2.

or maybe since Lotus is under them directly, maybe have Lotus Handling badge instead  laugh.gif
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Comparing 2 different product altogether.

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Proton bankrupted. Remember that.
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 15 2020, 04:48 PM)
Still it remains to be seen how reliable it is.

Ppl in Malaysia keeps the cars for more than 10 years.. Some wira already approaching 20 years

Really doubt DCT can last so long
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As if punch CVT can last long
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 15 2020, 04:48 PM)


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Proton bankrupted. Remember that.
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They are bound to...Imagine one model cost 300-400 millions RM.How many to sell before can get ROI...Better rebadge la,we simply dont have big economic scale like China..
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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 15 2020, 04:47 PM)
go ask that insider bila mau launch x50, apanama 110xxxx
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not yet .. is too early to ask... maybe after X70 launch only ask which is after 13th February (not sure infor)

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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 15 2020, 04:49 PM)
As if punch CVT can last long
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Exora was launched in 2011 right


Did it come with punch cvt cos the first batch is almost 10 years old and did not hear many cvt gearbox breaking down

Got complain on lack of power but not overheat or totally breakdown right
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 15 2020, 04:48 PM)
Still it remains to be seen how reliable it is.

Ppl in Malaysia keeps the cars for more than 10 years.. Some wira already approaching 20 years

Really doubt DCT can last so long
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1. cars nowadays are never meant to last long, the lifespan is just gonna get shorter and shorter as times goes
else how do they maintain the company afloat
2. no DCT right now ever lasted even 3 years without any problems before
so that's why i saw 5 years unlimited warranty is a very bold statement

the only real competitor right now is the DCT inside the honda city hybrid, i didn't follow them so am not sure if their DCT encounter any problems yet
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 15 2020, 05:09 PM)
1. cars nowadays are never meant to last long, the lifespan is just gonna get shorter and shorter as times goes
else how do they maintain the company afloat
2. no DCT right now ever lasted even 3 years without any problems before
so that's why i saw 5 years unlimited warranty is a very bold statement

the only real competitor right now is the DCT inside the honda city hybrid, i didn't follow them so am not sure if their DCT encounter any problems yet
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Gone are the days of the Nissan Sunny 130y lasting 30 years and more
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 15 2020, 04:49 PM)
As if punch CVT can last long
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punch CVT sucks in terms of usage
but it doesn't mean it's unreliable

people don't like it is because it doesn't work like other japanese CVT
but nobody doubted it's reliability yet
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 15 2020, 05:10 PM)
Gone are the days of the Nissan Sunny 130y lasting 30 years and more
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gone are the days of front headlamp and rear tail light made out of glass and last forever too
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 15 2020, 05:11 PM)
punch CVT sucks in terms of usage
but it doesn't mean it's unreliable

people don't like it is because it doesn't work like other japanese CVT
but nobody doubted it's reliability yet
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 15 2020, 05:11 PM)
punch CVT sucks in terms of usage
but it doesn't mean it's unreliable

people don't like it is because it doesn't work like other japanese CVT
but nobody doubted it's reliability yet
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The CVT seems fairly robust in the Saga/Persona, but the ones paired to CFE turbo engines did have severe issues from what I have seen and heard.
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QUOTE(macha ramad ass @ Jan 15 2020, 05:24 PM)
china already got facelift with led light, malaysia still finishing old china stock

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QUOTE(macha ramad ass @ Jan 15 2020, 05:24 PM)
china already got facelift with led light, malaysia still finishing old china stock

bodoh
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So? Even X70 got LEDs for the headlights, fog lights and tail lights. And also got new features never before seen that are taken from the Boyue Pro

Finish China old stock, what tok you?
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QUOTE(Lez Pall @ Jan 15 2020, 05:19 PM)
The CVT seems fairly robust in the Saga/Persona, but the ones paired to CFE turbo engines did have severe issues from what I have seen and heard.
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it may have been it's over the torque limit

from what i remember, the GB's limit for torque and the number of torque the engine produce is very near
not yet included the aftermarket mods that some drivers did to increase torque
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QUOTE(mango27 @ Jan 15 2020, 04:25 PM)
i do hope its soon too... but even X50 CKD is still far from reality, so its doubtful next year so soon...
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X70 will be 3 years old by the end of 2021, perfect time to introduce new interior and a few exterior changes.
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QUOTE(Lez Pall @ Jan 15 2020, 03:28 PM)
More torque+better gearbox and Proton involvement with Ride & Handling. Should be noticeably better to drive than current CBU.
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Locally assembled fit and finish should be noticeably worse.
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Cant wait for the launching of x50...
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QUOTE(djtong @ Jan 15 2020, 10:04 PM)
Locally assembled fit and finish should be noticeably worse.
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Proton CEO says quality is 6x better now compared to 2017 audit biggrin.gif Sos
dunno how true is that, long time never own Proton d...
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Gonna finish my house first then end of the year gonna see x50 ok or not.
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they also should train their salesman to think more like a human.
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i feel like buying a tiguan instead of X70 just to spite ohman and his ultra fanatic support of PRC.
TSLez Pall
post Jan 16 2020, 05:39 PM

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Got 3,369 remaining CBU units and then afterwards all 30,000 imported X70s will be sold out.

Guarantee got big discount this CNY so get it now if you're a firm believer that CBU quality>CKD.

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