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how this kind of ppl live in malaysia?
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Jan 15 2020, 12:28 PM
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Meet some lot of them in PLKN too. PLKN teachers really frustrated with them as there are no way to communicate. They just sit on the class staring at the air while waiting for the time to pass. my friend that can speak Chinese tell me that they are SJKC drop out, those that placed in the most back class. SJKC teach BM and English but the failed one don't learn anything. It's easy to survive, you can get job easier as long as you are Mandarin speaker. Can works as a waiter, server at Chinese restaurant. Maybe mechanic or any technical work that doesn't require interaction with client.
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Jan 15 2020, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(saikia2046 @ Jan 15 2020, 12:34 PM) A lot of older chinese never have a chance to get educated. They forced to work as a kuli at 11-13 years old. Since their job not required to read write and speak, they eventually become what you met that day. I still met 4-5 people like that during 1990 in my home town (they are in their 30-40's at that moment). Ironically even bangla in the same condition. But they interect with the locals and able to pick it up from there slowly building it up
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Jan 15 2020, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 15 2020, 12:36 PM) this is typical for ppl who lives in rumah panjang their whole entire life. close community, minimal interaction with outsiders, understandable la. i oso met a few before. but how he deal with JPN, JPJ, or any govt body, bring translator everywhere?  so no driving license? correct me if im wrong, JPJ test only conducted in Malay, rite?  You know when Anthony Loke make PSV exam the one that most failed and complaint the most from which group? That group. Those can understand BM can pass easily. Anthony Loke help them by introducing verbal test for those that failed written BM test more than 3 times. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2019...ion-three-times
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Jan 15 2020, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(saikia2046 @ Jan 15 2020, 12:56 PM) The dark side of the community you never know. Actually a lot of people thinking chinese is very wealthy which was not right. There are many of them poorer than the average poor Malays or Indians. This type of unker is very common. Those I met were work with kedai runcit cina or house builder assistance. For the whole day they only need to listen to the instructions given by the boss or supervisor. They don't need to interact with customer nor writing a reports. They bring their own cook food and water to work strictly no teh tarik session. Teh tarik is kind of luxury and if the boss belanja them to drink, they are willing to work harder, faster even overtime also no problem. Their life is just work-sleep-work, rest only 1-2 days in a month. They sacrificed themselves and all the money saved for their children's education. The younger generation of chinese community mostly don't know about this. Their condition much worse than bangla? Damn that saddening
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Jan 15 2020, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(changejob @ Jan 15 2020, 01:09 PM) Believe it or not there are actually some similiarities with Indian languages and Malay language. This is because Malay took influence from Sanskrit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_loanwords_in_MalayLook at the amount of words from Sanskrit, Hindi and Tamil. That is a good reason why Bangla or anyone with familiarity with Indian language picks up Malay easier than Chinese. This current BM unlike ancient BM, so many loanword from Chinese also
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Jan 15 2020, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(AgogoLatoto @ Jan 15 2020, 01:10 PM) Also long time ago I had a neighbour, cina miskin, i think 60+ years old. He work odd jobs daily naik basikal while collecting recycleable trash. No wife, only 1 son who work graveyard shift living with him. Unker always ask me or other neighbors to read letters for him because he is illiterate. But surprise surprise, his BM is not bad at all. This no excuse, as long as you interect with others can pick up few words and then slowly building up If zero interaction 100 years also can't pick up
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Jan 15 2020, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(changejob @ Jan 15 2020, 02:02 PM) My point is the similarities between Indian languages and Malay language. The more similar it is, the easier to learn it. Another example is both are agglutinative languages where as Chinese isn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agglutinative_languageI get it, it a little bit harder unlike bangla one year already can communicate. But then is 50 years also not enough?
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Jan 15 2020, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(changejob @ Jan 15 2020, 02:41 PM) How much have you learn Chinese/Tamil? A little bit. I just tried self learn Mandarin recently just few weeks ago. I took lesson 1 and lesson 2 free but lesson 3 need to paid. I'll look for another app if got free time. Tamil I don't plan, rather learn Hindi. Can speak with bangla. I learnt elementary Nihon go and Spanish too so many years ago but I stuck at grammar part.
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Jan 15 2020, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Jan 15 2020, 02:56 PM) Oh just Google you right. Now I know. I remember watching Indian PewDiePie cross border to Pakistan . He said Hindi and Urdu are really similar that they can talk with each other. Hindi also more spoken in India.
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Jan 15 2020, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(Bug Juice @ Jan 15 2020, 03:18 PM) No need to take classes, our myanmar worker can speak fluent cainis from just selling tv boxes and its gadgets, his celery + comission is RM3800 and it has been consistent. No attend classes nothing. He also speaks merei, engrand and his own burmese. Depends on how motivated you are lorrrrrrrrrrrr. When this foreigner can do this effortlessly suddenly it makes pipu in meresie looks bad, now i oso learn his language sometimes troll with him and his fren, so much fun. Noted. I learn the basic first
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