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TSkurangak
post Jan 15 2020, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 15 2020, 01:15 PM)
If the uncle is in the 50's or 60's, it mean he was born around the early years of merdeka. During that time, if you have standard 6 education is already considered as educated.  Some never even go to school or drop out after a year or two. If you study until Form 5, you're equivalent to studying until getting Masters today. A lot of people especially Malay do not realise that there are Chinese and Indians who belongs to these category of people. Their family is as poor as a lot of kampung Malays and they suffered terribly during the communist insurgency period. A lot of them were moved to new villages and survived without really interacting with other races because everything they need is available in their villages. You'll be surprised that some of them can't even read Chinese or speak Mandarin. All they know is just a dialect. Since, they are poorly educated, the lack confidence if they try to speak other languages such as BM or English. It's just like some Malays in kampung. They do not need to learn any other languages because whatever they need is in their kampung and they do not need to interact with other races at all.
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kampung i can understand la. but in heart of kl? u bound to speak malay, whether u like it or not.

QUOTE(tky1993 @ Jan 15 2020, 01:18 PM)
Hahahhahaha
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sigh... can explain to me what hes trying to say?



QUOTE(Bug Juice @ Jan 15 2020, 01:19 PM)
Why hasn't you learned a bit of ching chong? after living together for so many years... I mean, not even a tiny bit?  hmm.gif
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i want to learn... but no motivation coz my chinese circles speak english to me everytime, even amongst themselves laugh.gif


QUOTE(aeonbig @ Jan 15 2020, 01:18 PM)
Already say no formal education then how to learn English.
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paiseh... actually want to say 'at least malay'
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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Jan 15 2020, 01:26 PM)
Same thing as how some pipu got no qualification and no know how but can bikit the whole theme park. Yes, ayam refer to the late Unker Lim.

Sometime u just need sheer will to pull through. -John Wick
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he sure picked up abit of english and malay along the way, no?
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post Jan 15 2020, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 15 2020, 01:29 PM)
perhaps unker works as contractor under a chinese speaking boss.... so technically dont need communication, just work with his hands and feet is enough... also assuming he comes from a rural chinese kampung... i wont be surprised if he cant speak mandarin too.

There are actually many aged 50+ who didnt even graduate from primary schools.. work in hard labour since young and eventually come to KL. I have a few relatives like that... but because they work alongside with indon and bangla contractors, so their BM is pretty decent compared to that unker.. can speak bangla too.
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i wonder how he can tahan for 50-60 years oh... i struggles for a few years already cant tahan... sweat.gif
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post Jan 15 2020, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(tvcat @ Jan 15 2020, 01:33 PM)
why do one need to mingle with other race to survive?
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yes, can survive, but wont u be struggling?
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QUOTE(tvcat @ Jan 15 2020, 01:41 PM)
struggling wat?
if u stay in ur race community, u will struggling?
if that uncle stay in other race community then he will learn it in some time anyway
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struggling la. anything must find chinese speaking. official govt business, need to find translator. meet someone who want to speak to u but cant speak chinese, need a translator. go see dr, must find chinese dr...etcetcetc...

idk la mebe im just looking too deep into it laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ngkau @ Jan 15 2020, 01:43 PM)
TS bodoh and confuse as his bathroom leakage caused other unit problems but now want to turn it as his neighbour issue. Just admit it is you lah...
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uh... no... if i just want to turn it into neighbour issue, why would i elaborate how the problem arise in the 1st place? laugh.gif


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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jan 15 2020, 01:49 PM)
wont suffer if you stay in a majority chinese community. those uncle auntie if older than 50 years old high chances they cant converse well in malay/english. problem is they didnt go to school/didnt finish school because poverty and basically last time government didnt provide free education like now.

my mum only manage to finish chinese primary school because need to work and earn money (no child labor law) and that time just after indepedence not long ago. if you are able to go ang mo school you are rich fella back then. my dad didnt finish his HSC but since joining sekolah menengah so no issue with his BM/BI.

not everyone has the opportunity to study like every kids now, thats why my mum always ask me to appreciate the opportunity. basically a 24 hours housewive has too little time for themselves. try to find a malaysian chinese at the age of 30 around that, they should be able to converse in BM/BI well.
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ive met plenty of ppls who cant converse well in BM/BI myself... but to the extent of struggling to understand BM, and cant understand english at all, while living in kl, this is the 1st time...

theres plenty of ppl who cant speak malay/english in rural/pedalaman area. eg. ibans in rumah panjang, old murut ppl in kalabakan, ive met them before. but that because little to no interaction with outsiders...

but in KL, how did u evade mingling with other race?
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jan 15 2020, 02:06 PM)
actually those guys above already explained to you all the possibilities. just that you keep ignoring it. kapitan yap ah loy that open up KL probably didnt even speak a malay/english word but he was still damn rich.

in those uncles aunties early years (before independence), BM is not even the official language in malaya. they dont even feel compulsory to learn. just like now you dont speak chinese because it is not compulsory to learn even until now. would you still mingle with ppl that only speak chinese just like back in the days where malay only speak BM ?

i dont think so, because you are still not picking up chinese.
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i can understand if in kampung area, but in kl? u walk ten step already meet ahmad, walk another ten step, u meet raju...

idk i just cant imagine someone would self exile himself to his own community just because he lazy want to pick up another language laugh.gif
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QUOTE(feynman @ Jan 15 2020, 02:11 PM)
pekak.....so dunno what TS saying
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kemungkinan yang teramat besar laugh.gif

come to think of it, no wonder he understand when i point to my eyes and say bocor... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(esdome @ Jan 15 2020, 02:20 PM)

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tak faham... why unker=sampah?
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QUOTE(ClessRV @ Jan 15 2020, 02:26 PM)
Haha, base on your name, I think we are from the same state and race, and I have the same thought as well, I mean since we live in Malaysia, at least should have a good grasp of the BM language even if it is not our native language / mother tongue.
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santiki dlu! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jan 15 2020, 02:31 PM)
kl area quite many chinese. plus u walk ten step you meet ahmad will you just simply go have a conversation with ppl ? the most u smile and go only ma. communication is 2 sided you know ? even he want pick another language he still need a willing person to talk to him and correct him.

macam ni lah, you become a good neighbour, spend your time to chat with him, teach him like a primary student and maybe in a year or 2 he can finally talk with you in malay.

you want the community change ? can, then you have to be part of the change. start with today, find uncle teach him.
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but unker didnt live in that unit... sad.gif unit is empty for as long as i can remember...
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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Jan 15 2020, 02:29 PM)
Dayummmm burn sial
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can explain this? why unker=sampah?

i asked so many ppl, nobody explain it to me...
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QUOTE(esdome @ Jan 15 2020, 02:36 PM)
One is well educated and one is not. But both stay in the same building.

Both of you are under the same category. You should insaf why you are not doing better than the unker right?  biggrin.gif
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oh.... now i get it... why i live in same building as him? idk, maybe because i dun want to commit to an expensive property when my plan in life is to go back to sabah when i reach 45?

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QUOTE(Miracles @ Jan 15 2020, 02:45 PM)
Maybe that uncle got son/daughter grow up liao and work in city.

Then son/daughter got a bit money, so ask father come city live with them/buy new house to stay. No more rumah papan at kampung.
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and son ask him to inspect the unit, since they busy with work.. hmm.gif

sounds plausible....

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QUOTE(pobox @ Jan 15 2020, 03:06 PM)
You must say like this: "Unker, U lama sudah duduk sini ka?"

You stupid fool, unker's tatabahasa is different!
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maybe la...different tatabahasa laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(BuddhawithinMe @ Jan 15 2020, 03:11 PM)
Normally local uncle speak malay will start with, " lu punya paip bocor"
Lu tolong tengok.

If yr that uncle no say "lu" maybe not local?
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after lengthy discussion wit /k, can be 3 possibilities

1. unker is not local
2. unker live in kl but only mingle with chinese
3. unker live in rural area, but recently move to kl

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Jan 15 2020, 04:24 PM)
I didn't say your sampah pun, I just say you Kena burned
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No i tot the reply say that unker=sampah. Someone already explained it to me
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QUOTE(Newsray @ Jan 15 2020, 04:33 PM)
Malaysia is not high level society.
You can live your life without even speaking out.
Maybe during any government related issue, but you dont need to do it on a daily basis. Maybe once in awhile. Probably someone will help him.

Most people live out their daily life without talking to neighbours.
Just try going to the mall yourself.
Try to count how many time you speak to random strangers? Probably you can count with your own fingers.

An old uncles dont need to talk much in everyday life. Stop being a dick.
I have seen young working adult not able to construct half a sentence in front of angmoh, and he still working as a professional !
You probably got more fun poking on the professional that mumbling in front of angmoh than an old uncle that couldnt speak english or malay !

Uncle didnt go to school.
Dont poke fun on people misfortune.
Be man.
Not a dick.
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Maybe i used too many smileys in my original post, and came across as being a dick making fun of old unker. But i can guarantee u that is not my intention. I genuinely want understand how he go on with his daily life without understanding the spoken language of this country. Coz ive been in the same situation (kinda) and i cannot tahan with it.

Forgive me if i unintentionally offended anybody, but i am not sorry for opening this thread. Reading the replies has been kinda enlightening to me...
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QUOTE(WallMaker @ Jan 15 2020, 04:46 PM)
if youngster cant speak malay is the problem, uncle also want to make fun of meh. walao, u sohai la
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Manada make fun sweat.gif

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