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The ACTUAL "MoE" letter about pongal festival.
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TrialGone
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Jan 15 2020, 01:10 PM
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What confusion. It still says haram to join there. The "forced to part" with condition like unnecessary addendum when they could just end at "haram". Or get rid of the word "haram" and just advice what to observe.
Can't wait for them to come with another letter for celebrating CNY lol.
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viole
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Jan 15 2020, 01:16 PM
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Reading replies from /k got me thinking.
Do nons dont like muslim to be real muslim?
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se7en_bro
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Jan 15 2020, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 15 2020, 01:10 PM) What confusion. It still says haram to join there. The "forced to part" with condition like unnecessary addendum when they could just end at "haram". Or get rid of the word "haram" and just advice what to observe. Can't wait for them to come with another letter for celebrating CNY lol. It is haram. Agree should stop at that. JAKIM just give guidelines in case such situations exist. At the end it comes to the individual how he practices Islam. CNY not religious so no problem but some muslim still don’t know.
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ticke
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Jan 15 2020, 01:25 PM
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lulz depa ingat org muslim semua bodo ka sampai perlu keluarkan surat macam tu?
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TrialGone
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Jan 15 2020, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(viole @ Jan 15 2020, 01:16 PM) Reading replies from /k got me thinking. Do nons dont like muslim to be real muslim? Real muslim would have strong faith not swayed by simple act of joining other faith celebration. .......or u toking about the "other" version in Middle East now?
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viole
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Jan 15 2020, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 15 2020, 01:26 PM) Real muslim would have strong faith not swayed by simple act of joining other faith celebration. .......or u toking about the "other" version in Middle East now? Then you dont know islam yet. Thats the reason i dont want to argue about technicality because non dont even study the religion. But some like to use logic to dictate how religion should be.
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se7en_bro
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Jan 15 2020, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 15 2020, 01:26 PM) Real muslim would have strong faith not swayed by simple act of joining other faith celebration. .......or u toking about the "other" version in Middle East now? I believe the issue here is acknowledging other religion, not getting swayed or get confused or whatever. By joining other faith celebrations or ritual you are acknowledging its faith. That the main reason why non religion celebration is fine like CNY.
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wildshot_willy
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Jan 15 2020, 01:33 PM
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Tough being a muslim here in Malaysia.
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TrialGone
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Jan 15 2020, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(viole @ Jan 15 2020, 01:29 PM) Then you dont know islam yet. Thats the reason i dont want to argue about technicality because non dont even study the religion. But some like to use logic to dictate how religion should be. Errrr.... Cause that's how real peace and harmony is achieved. Otherwise u just end up like the war torn version Middle East where everyone use religion as excuse to go to war and wanting to wipe out all non believers. This post has been edited by TrialGone: Jan 15 2020, 01:43 PM
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SUSandylyc
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Jan 15 2020, 01:42 PM
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Bangsat betul JAKIM! Nasi dan susu pun haram! Orang JAKIM tak makan nasi dan minum susu?
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TrialGone
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Jan 15 2020, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(se7en_bro @ Jan 15 2020, 01:32 PM) I believe the issue here is acknowledging other religion, not getting swayed or get confused or whatever. By joining other faith celebrations or ritual you are acknowledging its faith. That the main reason why non religion celebration is fine like CNY. ..... Kay. Just curious was kuda kepang got religion agenda? Cause it was haram by jakim also.....
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se7en_bro
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Jan 15 2020, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 15 2020, 01:47 PM) ..... Kay. Just curious was kuda kepang got religion agenda? Cause it was haram by jakim also..... Different thing. Its same like malay bomoh who like to call help from spirit/djin other than Almighty God.
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bugijun
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Jan 15 2020, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 15 2020, 01:47 PM) ..... Kay. Just curious was kuda kepang got religion agenda? Cause it was haram by jakim also..... Jakim is all about religion
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Sone Shin
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Jan 15 2020, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(se7en_bro @ Jan 15 2020, 01:55 PM) Different thing. Its same like malay bomoh who like to call help from spirit/djin other than Almighty God. Haraam but still people go find bomoh.
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kangkayu
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Jan 15 2020, 02:01 PM
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nampak salib takut. lihat tanglung merah takut. belanga masak susu pun takut.
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TrialGone
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Jan 15 2020, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(bugijun @ Jan 15 2020, 01:59 PM) Jakim is all about religion Last I checked smoking also haram. Can summon gennie if smoke is it?
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TrialGone
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Jan 15 2020, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Jan 15 2020, 02:00 PM) Haraam but still people go find bomoh.  Be specific. Coconut bomoh. Lol.
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donald88
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Jan 15 2020, 02:02 PM
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JAKIM = KPM ?
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msacras
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Jan 15 2020, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(viole @ Jan 15 2020, 01:16 PM) Reading replies from /k got me thinking. Do nons dont like muslim to be real muslim? Real as in extremist moral police? Or real as in matured and able to think for ownself? This post has been edited by msacras: Jan 15 2020, 02:03 PM
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msacras
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Jan 15 2020, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(wildshot_willy @ Jan 15 2020, 01:33 PM) Tough being a muslim here in Malaysia. Try being a muslim oversea or non-muslim in Malaysia, then only come back and tell us which one is “hard”. This post has been edited by msacras: Jan 15 2020, 02:05 PM
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