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Racists has seeped into Education Ministry, Jakim power over Education Ministry...
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 07:18 AM
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QUOTE(catherintherye @ Jan 14 2020, 10:15 PM) https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...nggal-festival/GEORGE TOWN: Penang Deputy Chief Minister II P Ramasamy today slammed the education ministry for issuing a directive to all schools that Muslim students should not take part in Ponggal festivities, as they have been declared haram by the Department of Islamic Development Malaysia (Jakim). The directive by the ministry, dated Jan 13, was sent to all state education directors after a shariah expert panel from Jakim called for the ban. The panel stressed that participation in the rice and milk boiling – a key ceremony during Ponggal – was strictly out of bounds for Muslims. Ramasamy, who is also the Penang Education Committee chairman, told FMT Ponggal is not a religious ceremony, but merely a Tamil harvest festival celebrated by all faiths. ... Jakim power over all other ministry....even more powerful then PM office and Finance Ministry.....Ponggal Haram as with Tang Lung... Uh.. Apa kau kisah kalau haram pun? Life still goes on
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE(missysleepy @ Jan 15 2020, 07:32 AM) are u stupid fark. if u don't have event than how can you start to learn cross culture. in university from uSA also got learning other culture. bodo mcm otak babi. But nons duwan learn jawi, how? It is also non religious, its just a script wat?
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE(missysleepy @ Jan 15 2020, 07:58 AM) bodo, read wiki for answer. https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story/pongal-...3924-2016-01-15so dis website is bullshit as well?
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE(rebecca_choo @ Jan 15 2020, 07:59 AM) Jawi is being forced upon and no one is forcing u to celebrate ponggal with the Tamils - learn the difference.. U need to compare an apple with an apple - don’t simply bark without a valid argument so? haram only for muslim student wat. the rest still can celebrate freely. n forced to do vs forced not to do. not apples to apples?
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE(missysleepy @ Jan 15 2020, 08:02 AM) this is in india, malaysia different.  lolwut. so ancestors of indians in malaysia is not from india? hinduism in malaysia is not the same religion as hinduism in india? so where does the indians and hinduism in malaysia came from? mars?
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 15 2020, 08:27 AM) OK....... U konfirm same level as that idiot putra guy who ban cny in school. What a joke. Btw, pls ask to ban non celebrating raya also. Also since when non learn jawi cannot read q? In that case can tell jakim and pas to stop quoting q word on media cause feels like they want to convert non. HAHAHA HAHA!!! nope. u still cant read it. jawi and arabic script got substantial difference. and even if u can read it, itll be gibberish anyway. since, u know.. quran is in arabic. do u understand arabic?
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(missysleepy @ Jan 15 2020, 08:58 AM) So if it's religion u don't step into non religion house la bodo. when comes deepavali, makan u mau. bodo kawan... eating and participating in the ceremony is 2 different thing, kawan...
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(missysleepy @ Jan 15 2020, 09:11 AM) what different thing. If u step into chinese or indian house. the food can be sembahyang food before we served u too..  so u makan the food that we performed ritual in the morning ok. how u know some of them don't performed ritual with the food during morning when praying. eat some sand before u think u know everything.  so ure more happy if jakim come out circular say kenot celebrate cny and deepavali?  their religion leave them be la.  if they want to haram for their ppl, so be it. as long as it doesnt affect the ppl who celebrate it, why bother?
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Jan 15 2020, 09:19 AM) Still remember Kelantan case? All trader, non Muslim also must close during ramadan that is in kelantan, no?
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(missysleepy @ Jan 15 2020, 09:19 AM) i don't know who /K resident indian in kopitiam . Of course there are many who don't read bible or quran , just like other religion too. so what u expect everyone to share the same story in kopitiam? some stupid even go copy indian newspaper which are deeper than u thought. Even Taiwan and China have their own custom compare with ours here. mana sama. Even muslim have different clan la. doesnt matter, muslim are prohibited to join in the ceremony, of anything that is even remotely religious to other religion. theres no way around it, it is stated in their religious book. u ask for tolerance, yet u cant tolerate this fact?
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Jan 15 2020, 09:29 AM) That is related ISLAM, NO? so kelantan=whole malaysia now? that is kelantan being retarded. i didnt see the same thing happening across malaysia This post has been edited by kurangak: Jan 15 2020, 09:34 AM
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Jan 15 2020, 09:38 AM) Who knows Nobody defend or stand up for the minority there Who can certain or be sure that it won't spread to whole msia? Will the liberal, or perhaps YOU defend the minority? dude... i am in your side... born and raised in the land below the wind, raised as a christian and later become atheist  in this case, did they go extreme? the 'haram' only affect muslims, others are not affected. so why bother? just dont give a fuck and continue living la. their religion, let them do as they please, as long as it didnt affect the nons, why bother? srsly i dun understand la u guys. u guys ask for tolerance, yet u guys cant tolerate whatever the muslims do to themselves
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 15 2020, 09:44 AM) all i read is its a symbol of good fortune. nowhere stated that giving angpao is a religious symbol. or perhaps u can point out what i missed?
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 15 2020, 09:53 AM) Good fortune can also be interpreted as part of religion. Cause in some countries its consider gawd blessing. so muslim cant have good fortune?
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Jan 15 2020, 09:54 AM) Dude, you said let them be, as long as they don't affect non Muslim. Then I told you Kelantan gomen forcing non Muslim to close their business due to Ramadhan Then you said Kelantan only mah, not whole msia Then I said No people defending the minority, asking will you defence the minority Now you said again Let them be, they are not affected others. Dude, what you trying to say? Lol.. wait until the extremist spread whole msia then only you defend minority? if it affects my life, of coz i will fight against it. but now, does ponggal become haram among muslim affect me, directly or indirectly? absolutely not. so why should i be bothered by it? This post has been edited by kurangak: Jan 15 2020, 10:02 AM
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(missysleepy @ Jan 15 2020, 09:59 AM) fence sitter is the biggest batu api. Atheist is the one that is the weakest of the mankind. they see people fight, let them fight. there's a book that says that too. they judge on facts and figures not knowing that the universe out there and is also in them. They don't see right as right , wrong as wrong. only see gray. but they are in this world knowing their existence in the Upside Down world.  the fuck u mumbling about?
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Jan 15 2020, 10:01 AM) actaully it does affect you. what happen if one day you invite your friends to go your house celebrate, and your friends got mixture of muslims/non muslims? suddenly the polis is knocking on your door why you trying to proselytize your muslims friends. uh... just say theyre here for makan2 oni la... nothing wrong with makan2 wat..  let me elaborate:- go to church with me, and pray = haram go to my house makan2 celebrating christmas = ok This post has been edited by kurangak: Jan 15 2020, 10:05 AM
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Jan 15 2020, 10:04 AM) but what if your friend is the one who feel you trying to spread your religion? he's the one that reported you? then ure an idiot for choosing such 'friend'
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kurangak
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Jan 15 2020, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Jan 15 2020, 10:06 AM) then you see you're affected. when the law make someone doing something so mundane as illegal, everybody is affected. ok, maybe my life would be indirectly affected, but even if that happens, u can always prove ur innocence what.. its not like if someone want to sabotage u, ur life is 100% fucked.
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