tldr version = renting is not too bad after all
Is renting a home a total waste of money?
Is renting a home a total waste of money?
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Jan 14 2020, 09:33 PM, updated 6y ago
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tldr version = renting is not too bad after all |
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Jan 14 2020, 09:51 PM
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i prefer renting, i dont want to commit for a long term loan.
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Jan 14 2020, 09:53 PM
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if single i think its ok
after that need to think long term |
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Jan 14 2020, 09:54 PM
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I dont know, but i appreciate ppl keep renting my properties
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Jan 14 2020, 09:57 PM
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Jan 14 2020, 10:10 PM
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975 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lokap Polis |
for not hot area, nope.
but this does not apply if you are renting big house when with house loan, you could only afford small house. i rent for few year and with those extra money collected i could pay for large portion as downpayment. instead of thinking your landlord as an evil vampire or evil capitalist, why not think the money your paid were returned as a service that you need (utilize those as much possible) This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 14 2020, 10:18 PM |
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Jan 14 2020, 10:11 PM
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Jan 14 2020, 10:14 PM
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rent = can move to new house every 3 years
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Jan 14 2020, 10:26 PM
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Jan 14 2020, 10:27 PM
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Jan 14 2020, 10:32 PM
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Those who can't or could barely afford a house will always be open about renting
Those who could afford a house easily to them renting is a waste of money Now kolos |
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Jan 14 2020, 10:32 PM
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if got cash just buy
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Jan 14 2020, 10:35 PM
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if not married then rent.
you usually have to run away after you pump and dump some girls. This post has been edited by Phoenix_KL: Jan 14 2020, 10:35 PM |
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Jan 14 2020, 10:36 PM
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Renting is much lower risk and less stress. Example my condo area suddenly construct a flyover highway between condos.
Some condo owners want to sell due to noise of construction and damaged road but no takers. Props price dropped around the area. As a tenant, I can simply move to another area hahaha. |
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Jan 14 2020, 10:37 PM
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rent room to stay
buy properties and rent out to earn income |
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Jan 14 2020, 10:38 PM
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An apartment would be pretty run down 15-20 years in time, not to mention it was the owner who bear maintenance and repair cost.
Even you renovate it the outside appearance and facility will deteriorate. If apartment rent better since there are always new and better project development. |
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Jan 14 2020, 10:39 PM
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It depends
If u really want to settle down Yes |
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Jan 14 2020, 10:41 PM
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Buy leh
Can reno to my liking |
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Jan 14 2020, 10:42 PM
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Jan 14 2020, 10:48 PM
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Like rent remain the same for 2.1k for 25years.
Renting not bad. But even the video final number show own property having more gain in the end. |
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Jan 14 2020, 10:51 PM
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343 posts Joined: Jul 2011 From: Land of SaberLion :3 |
Rent is ok.
Boleh tukar environment, no need to maintain, hassless... Is a good choice for foreveralone. |
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Jan 14 2020, 10:52 PM
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Rent is ok.
Boleh tukar environment, no need to maintain, hassless... Is a good choice for foreveralone. |
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Jan 14 2020, 10:56 PM
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Both got pros and cons, depending on your circumstances.
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Jan 15 2020, 12:07 AM
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Renting is fine if you can move anywhere you like. But for those who have a preference for a particular area, it is better if you can buy, renovate it to last for the long stay. When the property rush comes back, the price will move very fast for preferred areas.
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Jan 15 2020, 07:05 AM
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Jan 15 2020, 07:25 AM
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Jan 15 2020, 07:26 AM
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2020 still buy million ringgit property?
Rent la. Every few years move to new house. |
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Jan 15 2020, 07:26 AM
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Jan 15 2020, 07:27 AM
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Jan 15 2020, 07:30 AM
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Jan 15 2020, 07:40 AM
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Jan 15 2020, 07:43 AM
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Jan 15 2020, 08:02 AM
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Jan 15 2020, 08:03 AM
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Jan 15 2020, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jan 14 2020, 10:38 PM) An apartment would be pretty run down 15-20 years in time, not to mention it was the owner who bear maintenance and repair cost. everything will run down in 20 years timeEven you renovate it the outside appearance and facility will deteriorate. If apartment rent better since there are always new and better project development. |
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Jan 15 2020, 08:10 AM
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Jan 15 2020, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(suikod3n @ Jan 14 2020, 10:36 PM) Renting is much lower risk and less stress. Example my condo area suddenly construct a flyover highway between condos. damansara perdana?Some condo owners want to sell due to noise of construction and damaged road but no takers. Props price dropped around the area. As a tenant, I can simply move to another area hahaha. |
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Jan 15 2020, 08:13 AM
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i rent 1300 a month in saujana klia double storey.
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Jan 15 2020, 08:17 AM
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In today’s market you can rent much2 cheaper than mortgage, even lower than mortgage interest payment.. if you know where to look, 2mm house can rent for 5-6k..
e.g. 2mm house mortgage installment ~12k over 20 years, rental 7k.. The 5k difference can invest in other assets with possible better returns / better liquidity Maintainance (eg pipe rosak, atap bocor, autogate rosak etc), cukai tanah etc landlord settle .. of course depends on luck getting good landlord lah |
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Jan 15 2020, 08:23 AM
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Depend on your situation..
But long term, you pay for other ppl loan In the end they got property u got nothing |
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Jan 15 2020, 08:31 AM
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only if can afford. else 35 yr loan mean u kena lock urself to bank wan do anything oso nod think twice.
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Jan 15 2020, 08:34 AM
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i buy so that i can gip to my children later.
even long term loan covered with insurance/mrta/mrtt. so if anythng happen, the insurance will take care of it. |
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Jan 15 2020, 08:42 AM
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Jan 15 2020, 08:50 AM
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Jan 15 2020, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(suikod3n @ Jan 15 2020, 08:50 AM) yes i saw that too, last time i used to work there and traffic is not as bad. reach office at 9, parking is still available. now when i revisit the place after 2-3 years away from MY, so much has changed. flooding, traffic jam, noise and that flyover... how ppl slp at night. that road is just like outside their window. imagine every hour ppl with modified exhaust pipe pass by. lol luckily i m not working there anymore. really is nightmare for all the owners there. |
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Jan 15 2020, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jan 15 2020, 08:08 AM) So better buy land, only land appreciates, house just build as cheap as possible since renovation cost almost as much as rebuilding.In Japan, house average lifespan is less than 25 years, after that demolish and rebuild, directly save renovation cost and get a new, more modern house. |
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Jan 15 2020, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jan 14 2020, 10:38 PM) An apartment would be pretty run down 15-20 years in time, not to mention it was the owner who bear maintenance and repair cost. My condo is only 8 year-old and it's already has leaking here and there, big cracks on walls.Even you renovate it the outside appearance and facility will deteriorate. If apartment rent better since there are always new and better project development. I can't imagine after 20 years. |
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Jan 15 2020, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Jan 15 2020, 12:03 PM) My condo is only 8 year-old and it's already has leaking here and there, big cracks on walls. Agreed, when now our river sand had been sold to Singapore and China, cannot make good concrete already.I can't imagine after 20 years. Even new house crack everywhere. In Japan, they would just buy land or demolish the old house (which is easy given their method of construction) and build new steel frame house. You see Japanese drama companies like Sekisui and Daiwa house sponsor, easier to arrange for insurance policy and finances. https://www.sekisuihouse.com/index.html https://www.daiwahouse.co.jp/jutaku/index.html Usually Japanese just rent at danchi type of apartment or mansion type of apartment depending on their income, once have money or wanted to form family only buy landed house. Apartments are bought for rent collection after a while they are demolished and make way for new development ie like Marunouchi now. Apartment or house in rural place or further from station where nobody wants just left there to rot. |
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Jan 15 2020, 12:13 PM
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Own house better than renting, house prices keeps on rising every year.
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Jan 15 2020, 12:17 PM
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Jan 15 2020, 12:20 PM
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I have long since decided that I won't waste money buying a house when I can enjoy it for less by renting one.
I currently live in an apartment in Mont Kiara, my estimate is my landlady is actually subsidising me by at least RM900 each month for me to live in her property. The rental I pay definitely does not cover the mortgage payments and she still has to pay for the building management fees as well as insurance. Malaysia is such a fantastic place, my apartment even comes with its own washer and dryer. |
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Jan 15 2020, 12:22 PM
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renting for those want to move around
buy and stay one location dont appeal to many its the future trend but due to education and stupid parents, die die must buy, then no live from paying all the installments = might as well die. |
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Jan 15 2020, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jan 14 2020, 10:38 PM) An apartment would be pretty run down 15-20 years in time, not to mention it was the owner who bear maintenance and repair cost. but you can't deny that older apartment and condos have the best road accessEven you renovate it the outside appearance and facility will deteriorate. If apartment rent better since there are always new and better project development. newer one the location is quite cacat or its a commercial title instead of redsidential |
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Jan 15 2020, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jan 15 2020, 12:25 PM) but you can't deny that older apartment and condos have the best road access Commercial title don't compare to those studio build for rental type lah.newer one the location is quite cacat or its a commercial title instead of redsidential Now rental also quite cheap, I rent One residensi just up on Jalan Alor rent only 2k I paid upfront, furnished even. I can even rent out parking since I am not living there. For the asking price of ther market minus maintenance, I don't know how to owner can recover cost. |
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