My uncle married his wife for 15 years got one son and one daughter

His wife mother got 2 properties:
1) wife share with mother 50/50. Mother help pay down payment 100k for 500k property. But the wife work her ass off to pay for property (most of her salary go to the property). As a result, uncle have to tanggung most of the household expenses for 15 years. He feel like he is indirectly paying for the property in which the wife mother has 50% share. The mother has said that she will pass the 500k property to his wife. But she pay most of it.

2) Bangalow worth 3 mil where mother and brother is living there. Wife mother decided to pass the whole Bangalow to the brother who was single.

Issue: my uncle has 2 kids (my cousins) and he feel it is unfair that they lost their inheritance. They inherit a property that is mostly paid by his wife as mother only help 100k downpayment. My uncle not interested in the Bangalow, he only want his kids to benefit. Wife decided not to contest and give to the brother everything. But recently the brother found love and is about to be engaged.

Issue2: my uncle has good relations with his mother in law n brother. But his constant persuasion with his wife on this matter would threaten to make relations worse as this is a sensitive matter.

Issue3: my uncle feel unfair he has to work hard and sweat while the wife unable to contribute due to the mother persuasion to make her buy this property when he was bf and gf with her.

Issue4: my uncle not interested in the Bangalow but he wants their kids to have a share for their future

Conclusion: if you were in his shoes, what would you do?


1) leave it as relations with in laws more important
2) fight for children all the way
3) do it diplomatically but wife still not listen then forget it

it is your grandma right to give her property to whoever she want. fullstop
so i choose 1

it is your uncle duty to give to his kids.

It is up the grandma to select who she want to inherit her wealth or property. The grandma can as well as give 100% fully to the son or to donate everything.

I think that your uncle is being sour, she should communicate with his wife. If the wife housing loan is too much of a burden to the family, just sell it instead of eyeing for the grandma property

Feel like its fair that if the wife paid for the first property, then she basically should own it outright.

If the mother was fair she'd divide the other house up equally between the wife and her brother (assuming it was the mother/father who bought it solely on their own, so its completely an inheritance from them).

But like the others said in this thread, its all up to the grandmother. In our patriarchal society people tend to favour men in these kinds of things, the mother will think the wife has the husband to rely on already while the son has to be the provider so better to give him everything.

This post has been edited by RViN: Jan 14 2020, 06:59 PM

Strawberry charsiew take mom and sister's property that he has paid 0 cent himself. Already got 3 mil property still want to rob the sister. Damn charsiew.

If the property is solely under mother-in-law's name and your aunt has no interest in the property, I feel for your uncle, but there's nothing that can be done since your aunt has made up her mind. Even if she wants it, she doesn't have title, also can't do anything. Dwelling on the issue will only destroy their relationship, not worthy over unrecoverable monies.

I think at best option 3 ba. Make sure not to cross the line and permanently destroy the relationship with your aunt.

I feel for your uncle, it is really unfortunate.

Moral of the story is never ever pay for properties not under your own name unless you are prepared to gift it to that person. Your uncle should have prepared for this scenario when he went along paying for his mother-in-law's property albeit indirectly. I still feel for him though.

This post has been edited by kygt99: Jan 14 2020, 07:15 PM

No. 3. They defenitely have share on that house. As the brother to pay them a bit. Consider they sell their share on the house

Dude, your uncle is in no way entitled to the RM3m bungalow. True, he does not want it for himself, but your cousins are not strictly entitled to it either.

It is the choice of grandma to give the house to whomever she wants.

The RM500k house arrangement was settled before they were even married, so he went in with eyes open. Again, he married her knowing the situation, not like it was an unexpected financial decision.

Grandma may have chosen to give the house to her son because they live together, possibly better relations than her daughter.

In any case, your uncle should:

2) fight for children all the way <----- but fight using his own financial means, not some inheritance that they may or may not be entitled to.

Your uncle has no claim on the bungalow whether for himself or his children. It is mom-in-law's prerogative to give to who she wants.

As for the RM500K property mom-in-law helped pay RM100K for it but will make no claim on the property. Appreciate her generosity.

I don't see what is your uncle's problem. In terms of inheritance, sons are favoured over daughters. Sometimes daughters get nothing or just a token sum.

Tell you what... stay away from your uncle, he is nothing but a kau-ci-kwan... a shit stirring stick.

Whatever his wife and his wife's mother want to do, it has nothing to do with him and his offsprings.

So the kau-ci-kwan is red eye and hoping the maternal grandma to kick her son out of the bungalow, sell it, and split the money and give part of it to the maternal grandchildren (his children).

Did your shit stirrer uncle married your aunt because she is from a wealthy family?

edit: cchildren corrected to grandchildren.


This post has been edited by ScooterBoi: Jan 14 2020, 09:54 PM

Fight what? How you plan to fight? Go to court? Or confront mother in law? It is mother in law’s right to will it to whoever she wants...

It’s not that.
The wife mother has burdened my uncle finances for 15 years. She persuaded his wife to buy that property and she take half ownership. Therefore the wife told him that she is unable to help family expenses because her whole salary pays for the property. My uncle feel there is something the mother is trying to do by tying my auntie (his wife) finances to force him to pay for everything- house loan, children education.

And further my poor cousins get nothing but all goes to the wife brother.

My uncle is asking his wife to fight for it. He knows she is a soft person and dare not stand up to her brother. He is not interested in the property but he wants his kids to have the entitlement.

Actually if the wife speak out- The mother may consider.

But she is timid and bullied by the brother not dare to speak up

Aiya.... dun want to give already some more fight what? He doesn’t want the prop but want to fight for the kids means he want it lor..... once the kids get a share of the bungalow, then your uncle can spend his own money to enjoy more lor...

Already got 100k upfront for house should be happy. Consider it a forced savings. After paying off, will probably be worth more and saved a lot on interest already.

Hard to fight unless want to go to court and declare will invalid as the old lady is senile, I think. Don't see what other options as he and the wife didn't contribute to the house.

He may feel it's unfair but that's life.

Don't just listen to what you uncle is saying... look at his relationship with his wife from another perspective.

There's nothing wrong in purchasing a house in joint names. As it is, your aunty mother is giving her share of the house to your aunty. Maybe the mother was wise and the house is a good investment. Your aunt can now sell it if finances is tight.

Sounds like your uncle is really a shit stirrer... he is instigating his wife to 'fight' her mother and also her brother so that her children can some money.

He also sounds like a loser who don't have much to leave to his children... so aiming for money from their maternal grandma.

Using the children as an excuse, he is putting his wife in a tough position... mother and brother is related in blood, and her children her blood. What a dick!

1. Your poor cousins get a RM500k house that their mother mostly paid for, not nothing.

2. Your uncle MARRIED into the situation. They were gf/bf when it happened. He had a CHOICE before the marriage.

3. The wife's mother did not tie your uncle down. HIS WIFE DID.

4. Why does your uncle's wife deserve the house MORE than her brother? Just because they have children?

First calculate properly with receipts and documentation how much your wife paid for the shared property

Then make a claim that that amount is 100% belongs to your wife

Then propose that the remaining amount plus the bungalow value be split equally between the children of your uncle's wife's mother ie your uncle's wife and brother

Though frankly if your uncle's wife no balls to say anything there's nothing you can do

Ya, the uncle is really sour putting his wife in a difficult situation with her mother.
I don't understand why you keep saying that they get nothing, maybe in comparison 100k is nothing to 3 million? But if you always compare there is no way it can be balance. And in the end, the law is just that it is prerogative of the grandma. As long as she made a will and it it legitimate.

Both son and daughter should always assume that you will not inherit anything. The daughter should be gracious that they grow up OK, have education, instead of in debt. It is totally up to the grandma how he want to use her money and who she want to give to. It is legitimate if grandma don't want to give a cent to the daughter and even request 50% of the house ownership

And besides, as you said, the son is getting married and if he had son. Your uncle want share for his children at this point of time without even considering that the grandma is still living well....

Such hypocrite.

Most funny of all is that your uncle complaint that he is the only one supplying for "his" company. If he cannot support her wife and children might as well don't get married. Thousand and millions of household have housewife that is not working and I don't see those husband complaining. Even if it is very tight, the husband can always sit down and discuss with the wife to maybe sell the house... to lighten the burden. But no, he wants the house and also more for his children...

All in all from your description, I think your uncle is a bad character.

I think this one somewhat non-issue. Just need to help your uncle think from a different perspective.

The grandma still old fashion. Everything give son. Wont be 50/50. I am assuming chinese family. Even non-chinese also same. Very rare as i know, will favour the daughters.

Secondly, the daughter/wife did work hard but still at least paid for her own house. Maybe your uncle feel unjust but, treat it as if first house is bought by husband 2nd house bought by wife and by today's standard, seems to be normal to have more than 1 house.

Third, the kids no other inheritance from the grandma? Cash, etc? Honestly property is sticky. Even if today the grandma will 10% of the house to each grandchild, and 80% to the uncle, the 10% is on paper. If cant sell, no cash value. And can only stay. I dont know why your uncle obsess with the house. If your uncle is thinking forever stay there, the grandchild get 10% of a supposedly 3mil bungalow but can never enjoy the value.

If really was an inheritance like someone say here, create for your own child.

Ok one final post...

Ts,

what you are telling here is from your uncle. Maybe there is a reason your aunty is not telling why she prefers to continue paying instalments to the 500k house in joint names with her mother.

If anything happens to her, her mother will get some money when it is sold. So will her husband and children.

And in case there is divorce and her husband left her, she still have a house under her name.

If I were her, I will be very careful if the husband ask to put his name onto the house title after the mother's share is transferred.

The wife should not speak out and sour the relationship with her mother and brother. It is unlikely to change anything. Just accept that the bungalow is going to her brother. Inheritance does not have to be distributed equally.

Your uncle should not stir shit that he had to pay most of the household expenses because his wife paid for her house. This is the norm in many households. The husband pays everything while his wife keeps her salary for herself. Unless husband's salary is insufficient then wife will contribute.

Your uncle has no business meddling with his MIL’s finance.

I know him, he is not a bad character
He supports the family with his own hard work
He has money to save for some properties for his kid future
But he is not happy with this bad investment that his wife got into
It was by persuasion of her mother
For 15 years this property doesn’t generate much rental income to set off the loan. It is so bad that it’s empty half the time despite the efforts to advertise.
His wife low salary can’t pay anything to help the family. My uncle is frustrated that recently hardly any savings because expenditure has gone up
To sell this property means value <loan, how he gonna pay for a property own by his wife mom ?
He doesn’t want the house
He wants his kids to have the house
Heck he even ask his wife to put will to exclude him from those properties
He wants his kids to have a good future

Then why his MiL burden his wife with a loss making property ?

He doesn’t want the property. The house they are living in are All paid by him.
He wants it for the kids, he doesn’t care if the name is 100% own by wife

That is between his wife and his MIL.

Again, not his business.

ts＝uncle

highlighted part is what the Wife's Mother thinking as well.

u want share u buy yourself. dont aiming ppl share.
Greedy will lose everything

for inheritance there is not need to be fair

u contribute directly or indirectly it is at your own will, nobody force u. stop being sour.

your uncle got taken for a ride, unfortunately this is msia so shit like this happenss, hence never co sign with family members.

this thread is chuck full of people who dont understand the financial problems that come from doing this, with one even saying its not wrong.

Just my 2 cents,
Inheritance doesnt need to be fair.
Even if the mother in law wants to give the house(bungalow) to charity nothing can be done.
The bungalow belong to her anyway.

The bungalow is not his nor his wife to begin with, he can be angry if the mother in law wanted the 500k house to be split between the brother and his wife.

Parents owes their children nothing, they have provided shelter, food and education to their children. Getting inheritance is an added bonus.

I think using children as a reason is quite selfish. having children is his wife and his decision and responsibility. if they want their children to have a better future then its their responsibility not their grandmothers.

Your uncle is greedy.

If he wants his children to have a good life, then he needs to work his ass off to EARN it.

Just because he married a wife whom mother has a huge bungalow doesn't entitle him nor his children to the bungalow. He didn't EARN it.

Your uncle is just materialistic. Stay away from him. Got the house already leave it as it is la.. The mother want to give the bungalow to him is not his business. I will tell your uncle go focus on your own family first la.

Not your place TS.

Grandmother has the rights.

[quoteyour aunt's auntyomahans,Jan 15 2020, 08:51 AM]
He doesn’t want the property. The house they are living in are All paid by him.
He wants it for the kids, he doesn’t care if the name is 100% own by wife

[/quote]

So what is his problem? What is he complaining about? Why is he whining that his wife prefer to continue paying instalments to a house in joint names with her mother instead of aiding him in putting food on the table? He is financially capable of meeting the needs of the family, does he not? How can he say it is a burden as if your aunty is uncaring and prefers to invest some savings into a house as an investment?

As it is, are they renting or owning their own house? The house is under your uncle's name or joint names with his wife? Is this what he is complaining about? The house he is paying is in joint names with his wife, while the house his wife is paying is in joint names with her mother?

Don't forget that her mother paid 100k as first payment on the house, and your aunty only continue the instalments. Don't also forget that the house is considered as 100% belonging to your aunty. Or did her brother pestering the mother to transfer her name on the house title to him? I don't think so. So again, there is no issue for your uncle to complain and whine over.

Regarding the bungalow your uncle's mother-in-law and brother-in-law is staying, I suppose it is where your aunty and her brother were raised up. It was their family home.

If she prefers her brother to continue living there after their mother passed away, it is her prerogative... her choice. So again, what is the problem your uncle is whining about here? That she loves her brother more than her own children?

Her family house is supposedly her and her brother heritage. It is not your uncle's family home. Yet you title this thread as 'My uncle has inheritance problem'. So you think your uncle is untitled to his wife's family home? That he should 'fight' on behalf of his children?

As I said in previous posts, stay away from your uncle and don't listen too much to him. His attitude towards his wife is not perfect. Open your eyes and you might notice he is whining too much over his wife uncaring attitude and that he is 'forced' to be the sole provider to his family. Really? She never spend a cent on her family and never buy anything for her children?

Oh, such a burden I am bearing! My wife is saying monthly instalments on a house in joint names with her mother. My children is suffering!

Bungalow belongs to MIL. MIL and brother stay there, why your uncle suddenly feel his kids should have a right in the bungalow?

I think MIL is right to leave all to the brother, in case suddenly got people like your uncle come in want half, then brother need to move out find another house.

Brother stay with MIL, maybe brother all the while pay for upkeep of bungallw?

Hmm... either the way you describe the situation is unclear or your moral compass is partially wrong in determining character of a greedy sour person.

Isn't every parents working hard to support their family? Not everybody is born with a silver spoon.
Maybe there is some miscommunication that previously his wife is contributing to the family and after having the house not contributing. But if this is the issue, it is more of a communication problem between husband and wife. Your uncle has no right at all to eye for the grandma bungalow even if it is not for himself and for his children. More over the grandma is still alive.

And the funny thing is that the house that the wife had been paying for is already 15 years and you said that selling it means need to pay as value < loan? Unless the property went down by 40% which is very unlikely, I'm sure selling the property will have gains, besides 100k is already paid off by grandma.

Everybody also want their kids to have a head start, but eyeing for grandma bungalow is not the way. Your uncle need to be the man if he wanted to provide good life for his kid.

Anyway, there are already so much message from the forum clearly stated that there is something wrong with the uncle behavior... being sour, being greedy. Just a note, greedy doesn't necessary means greedy to own something for yourself, it also mean greedy to own something for your spouse, children, family, group and etc....

In the end, know your moral compass... it is so clear what is right and what is wrong

[quote=ScooterBoi,Jan 15 2020, 11:02 AM]
[quoteyour aunt's auntyomahans,Jan 15 2020, 08:51 AM]
He doesn’t want the property. The house they are living in are All paid by him.
He wants it for the kids, he doesn’t care if the name is 100% own by wife

[/quote]

So what is his problem? What is he complaining about? Why is he whining that his wife prefer to continue paying instalments to a house in joint names with her mother instead of aiding him in putting food on the table? He is financially capable of meeting the needs of the family, does he not? How can he say it is a burden as if your aunty is uncaring and prefers to invest some savings into a house as an investment?

As it is, are they renting or owning their own house? The house is under your uncle's name or joint names with his wife? Is this what he is complaining about? The house he is paying is in joint names with his wife, while the house his wife is paying is in joint names with her mother?

Don't forget that her mother paid 100k as first payment on the house, and your aunty only continue the instalments. Don't also forget that the house is considered as 100% belonging to your aunty. Or did her brother pestering the mother to transfer her name on the house title to him? I don't think so. So again, there is no issue for your uncle to complain and whine over.

Regarding the bungalow your uncle's mother-in-law and brother-in-law is staying, I suppose it is where your aunty and her brother were raised up. It was their family home.

If she prefers her brother to continue living there after their mother passed away, it is her prerogative... her choice. So again, what is the problem your uncle is whining about here? That she loves her brother more than her own children?

Her family house is supposedly her and her brother heritage. It is not your uncle's family home. Yet you title this thread as 'My uncle has inheritance problem'. So you think your uncle is untitled to his wife's family home? That he should 'fight' on behalf of his children?

As I said in previous posts, stay away from your uncle and don't listen too much to him. His attitude towards his wife is not perfect. Open your eyes and you might notice he is whining too much over his wife uncaring attitude and that he is 'forced' to be the sole provider to his family. Really? She never spend a cent on her family and never buy anything for her children?

Oh, such a burden I am bearing! My wife is saying monthly instalments on a house in joint names with her mother. My children is suffering!

[/quote]


Nicely explained

As much as I know, the uncle pays for all The expenses and bear everything just that after 15 years, he would like to see his wife contribute to the household expenses but this is not to be.m due to that property.

Why would his MIL quickly get his wife to buy that property and want half share ? This boils a lot of question, is the MIL want to have some inheritance from my uncle ? Because this looks like a smart reverse inheritance thingy.

You mean to say if your parents split their inheritance fairly among members but you get zero, you would be keeping quiet because you fear being called a sour puss ?

My uncle is thinking of this, he is wondering why his MIL is not thinking about the grandchildren.

So if the brother get married and his wife suddenly inherit the Bangalow, it’s the same logic right ?

But you do say it’s the MIL business

But all said and done why is there a reverse inheritance applied to my uncle ?

The property his wife is holding has half share of the MiL and she doesn’t contribute a cent to the instalment.

Doesn’t this become his business due to the reverse inheritance applied to him ?

Wtf is reverse inheritance???

Oh.. I see what you mean by reverse inheritance .. lol...

You said that MIL intends to give her half share to the wife right? So where got “reverse inheritance”? You think too much... i think MIL trying to protect daughter in case marriage fails.... now that marriage seems ok, she will give all to daughter ...

Becsuse she has given the house (50%) to daughter, she feels that is ok to give the bungalow to son only...you might thibk it’s not fair but bear in mind for older generation , often times the daughter get ZERO! The wife considered lucky.. lol

Your uncle wants his kids to have share? Sorry but different surname! That’s the facts of life!

This post has been edited by aspartame: Jan 16 2020, 08:53 AM

As explained earlier ... the mother paid 100k for deposit... yes, she never paid a single cent after that, that’s why she intend to give her share to the wife also ... with this move, she is not reverse inheriting from your uncle ..

This post has been edited by aspartame: Jan 16 2020, 09:00 AM

if the brother get married and want to gift bungalow to his wife it is up to him. not your uncle business liao. the MIL not paid 100k downpayment liao? not enough? the property his wife holding already inherited to her so what sthe issue really?

This post has been edited by Ned_Fromthenorth: Jan 16 2020, 09:32 AM

I talk to him already he not pursue for the matriarchal house

But he wants to deal directly with this reverse inheritance issue. Although the MIL say will eventually tsf the property back to daughter but nothing set in stone - no will no contract.

If anything happen to the MiL, touchwood the 1/2 shares will go 50% to father then 50% to brother

Then all the 15years of wife paying for the instalment and not saving for the kids will go down the drain

She is doing reverse inheritance on my uncle
Because the wife no money to help households expenses for that lousy property loan payment
100k is very little, my uncle wealth worth much more than that
But it’s this reverse inheritance that it’s bothering him
No will written
Mil share could end up with FIL and brother and wife divide 33.33% each if no will

Update from uncle, I advise him not to pursue the bungalow n he agreed. He ask me because I from finance field but I still noon.

But it’s this reverse inheritance from the Mil that is bothering him

She is indirectly claiming an inheritance from him? Because 15 years wife salary all going to the property and uncle has to cough up all the household expenses.

Mil has not written a will and it could ended up 1/3 share between uncle wife, FIL and brother if anything happens to her.

This post has been edited by renomahans: Jan 16 2020, 02:04 PM

Wife side family issue wife side family own settle leh. Not your uncle's business. Parents at most is take care of the children, not the grandchildren. Grandchildren your uncle as man's responsibility.

Chinese most of them still priorities son more than daughter. My dad made my bro inherit most of his assets, with small portion go to my sis and me. We think its fair because my bro is taking over the business and we daughters not working in the same industry. My non-chinese mum not happy then make will to distribute her side of assets with mostly real estates to end up all the 3 children got the similar individual value . My bro still got more though, but the difference is not something major to cause unhappiness among siblings. All these arrangements are made known to us the children so we won't break the family when they are not around.

Even if I got nothing I will be ok too, parents' job only to provide until graduation, once graduated its the children responsibility to feed themselves and their own family.

Ok, good that he not pursuing bungalow issue...

About the house...dun overthink the issue ... if really worried, talk about it with MIL.... but first, has MIL willed the bungalow away or transferred to son already? Most likely not... then in event of death, the wife will get some share because no will ... her share might be enough to offset the “half house” loss.. take it like contra... lol

Old people very sensitive with will issue... as long as bungalow is still with MIL, then your uncle is “safe”... if there is talk about transferring bungalow to son, then only your uncle should ask the wife to bring up the issue of house “one shot”.. ha ha

Don't tell me he doesn't have any assets of his own?
Inheritance from wife to kids it's wife side issue.
His own inheritance to his own kids it's his issue.
Don't mix it up.

If he feel reluctant all these years he's feeding the family for 15 years, he should have raised that up. The property is legal black and white.

The issue now is MiL use reverse inheritance on my uncle

She sort of claiming from him, you see if she is gone the half share will go to the brother and father in law.

And all this while for 15 years my uncle has to toil for the household expenses while the wife is tied up with the property loan

My uncle now no issue with the Bangalow, I persuaded him
But he is not happy with the burden of the property which is useless and what’s worse his wife is paying for it and it will go to the brother and father in law as mother in law did not do a will.

Well looks like he fell into mother in law trap
Of course he has property of his own
That property his wife gotten into has 50% share own by mother in law
So I ask you after she pass on who is it going to ?
1/3 to his own wife, 1/3 to father in law and 1/3 to brother

So I ask you isn’t this. Reverse inheritance that the mother in law trapped him ?

He didn’t know when he pak tor with my auntie, 1 year before the MIL force her to buy. So after married only he discovered this.

So let me get this straight:

Bro gets 100% of the RM3mil house
Sis also supposed to get 100% of the RM500k house
But sis gets only 50% of the RM500k house due to shared title?

But sis is paying 80% (RM400k loan) on the house
Due to this, sis hardly contributes to her own household welfare
Uncle is sour over the whole thing, seeing the blatant inequality being exercised
The money being put to settle the 400k loan couldve been used directly to sapot uncle's family expenditure

At the worst case scenario, bro gets 100% of 3mil house and a portion of 500k house, meanwhile sis doesnt even get full equity on the house she been paying for her life

Amirite?

She is giving the 500k to her daughter what, which is your uncle wife. What is the problem with that? Cut the BS la. Next time the house will be passed down to the children

Money cannot bring go grave

Deswai work hard and save more money. Stop spending money when you can't afford. Showing off is just a short period

Get your aunt to persuade her mother to relinquish her name on the house title so that she (your aunt) has the full title. This should not be a problem right?

The property investment may appear useless now but who knows what will happen in another 10 or 15 years? Just hang on the property as selling it now will incur losses.

Want it for the children lol.

Lol you read it correctly. That's his argument but won't happen in real life.

First say inheritance problem then say mil still alive. Even if there's any Will, it won't be valid until mil died.
Then argued it's reverse inheritance problem because suspect mil didn't make will so her share on properties could be divided fairly among fil, her son and daughter. If that's the case ts should cukur because they should get a piece of pie over the bungalow as well if there's no will set.

Inb4 uncle=ts bodoh and greedy.

Never cukur mil paid 100k down payment for house that might worth more than one million now. Otherwise the useless husband might not be able to pay monthly rental for family house and the wife might have to work even harder.
Mil stay with son and plan to stick to son whom will take care of her, how is it not fair for the son to inherit the bungalow they are staying? Meanwhile your children didn't contributed anything, how dare they want some share over it?

Even the mil didn't lead the wife to buy the house, in the end you will still get nothing, her bungalow her will to give her son, none of your business.

First thing to do, this is not a finance issue, its going to be a legal issue.
Talk to MIL, if she dont write will to transfer 500k house to wife, then call lawyer and see what u can fight for.

Then close case la.

By the way, 400k house only pay 1.8k a month, if you uncle alot of money and assets.. 1.8k shouldnt be such a big burden to him...

Agree with this. Ask for will writing in both bungalow to son, 500k house to daughter.

Wtf is this? Lol... force MIL to write will to transfer? If not, seek legal advice? Oh boy ....MIL has no legal obligation whatsoever to transfer to anybody...

You are correct, legally nothing can be done when shes alive, but when she dies it becomes a different ball game of who has more money to pay legal fees because a complicated inheritance case will take 1 year - 10 years before execution of will.

Getting MIL to write a will to transfer is not the best method. Wills can be changed, superceded or challenged. It is also troublesome to handle a joint property after one partner has died, will or no will.

Daughter should talk to her mother to transfer the full title to her while she is still alive. If MIL has the intention to gift the RM100K she put in to her daughter this should not be a problem, right?

If MIL refuses, make arrangement to pay back her RM100K and take full control of the property. It is better than having to split the property 50-50 in future due to the joint ownership.


This post has been edited by Ginny88: Jan 21 2020, 11:40 AM

During dating, when it is paying time your uncle always go Dutch too?

What kind of man expecting the wife to pay/contribute for household expenses? If your uncle could not afford it, he should not have start a family in the 1st place.

usually for chinese, whatever properties belongs to parent will 100% goes for the son/sons

There is no need to castigate a man who expects his wife to contribute to household expenses. These days women want equality. A wife may earn as much as her husband. Buying a home may require the joint income of both husband and wife. The concept of a husband paying everything and wife keeps what she earns is outdated. Please update yourself.

I think TS is very weird. Obviously everyone here has said the uncle is the problem fella but ts cannot accept. Ts why? You come here to get someone to agree with you being greedy?

The method the grandma used is actually quite good to ensure her daughter has a roof over her head in case she married a bad man which seemed to be the case here. Seriously ts said he is in finance but has little finance knowledge.

If the auntie is paying loan under her name, then her salary should be 3 times the installment. So I can't see why she is struggling unless there are things ts is hiding. A 500k house, the loan amount is more than rm2.5k instalment, so her salary should be at least rm7.5k. Do come clean.

Whatever agreement the daughter has with the mum is made in best interest. Tell me which property bought 15 years ago has not increased in value in the last 15 years. If not double, it would have been tripled. 15 years ago when grandma gave rm100k cash (quite a lot of money then), the brother did not even ask for anything. He probably wouldn't know the mother plan of giving the entire bungalow to him then. If he had been petty, he would have made his views heard.

Seriously I think ts has the same mentality as the uncle. And if the uncle had been successful with properties, he shouldn't be seeking advices from ts.

Tell those brats dont be so greedy. Its not theirs to begin with

Correct. It’s natural for mother to protect daughter from marriage. TS uncle is harping over and over again about how the wife never contributed to household expenses because all her money went into paying property which the uncle had no share. TS uncle must know that in this world , many husbands take care of all household expenses with no qualms... it is for the benefit of the whole family...one cannot be so calculative in marriage ... if want to count until like that .. better stay single

What's wrong with your uncle mother in law giving a property value 500k to his wife?

Your uncle is right, his wife paid for the property, but she only pay 400k / 500k, another 100k is coming from his mother in law. So the actual inheritance is only 100k. It's up to his mother in law want to give how much inheritance monies to her daughter.
Your uncle don't have any right to make demand. Yes, his wife pay the instalment for the 500k property of which was later pass down to his wife and your uncle and wife didn't pay installment for the banglow that his brother in law got. So what valid claim does your uncle have over the banglow?

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Jan 25 2020, 09:23 PM

grandma punya. she still alive and sound. she decides to give the house to her son. so why your uncle kecoh? greedy uncle. better stay away from him

As a husband this doesnt make sense. If you could not support your wife and kids, dont get married? The fact wife is working and have money is a bonus, but you should not be counting on her money, no?

I personally feel TS = uncle. That's why he's so defensive about the idea even though everyone else already canned it.

the granma has all the rights to give it to anyone that she feels right. as to the son in law, the 3mill property, it was not destined for your children. you need to teach them to work on their @ss off to earn hard money.. no free lunch in this world. this is more valuable than fighting for something that isnt urs at the first place... unfair? yes.. u may call it unfair.. but thats life..

How old are the kids? Haven't start work already hoping for inheritance?

It is amazing that in the year 2020, we still have a bigger majority of people thinking that it is right for sons to get everything and daughters can consider themselves lucky to even smell a passing fart.

It is even more amazing that a lot of people still think that the husband should pay for everything and it is an outrage to expect his wife to contribute to family expenses. A lot of old mindset here.