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post Jan 14 2020, 08:00 AM, updated 6y ago

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I realise unker of 50 yo above. Either they english very lousy(can't speak properly mostly due to dropout) or they english very powderful.
Those unker English lagi powderful if they have chance go America/Australia for tertiary education.

But nowadays many people study english since kindergarten till college/university level still english very de lousy.
Even those Malaysia youngster who went America/Australia/English-first country for tertiary education come back english still lousy.

Limited use of vocabulary and full of grammar mistakes / mixed language.

How come our English become so bad?

This post has been edited by pigeot23: Jan 14 2020, 08:06 AM
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:01 AM

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U is stupid very much
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Salah /k

Everyday read and write bahasa inggeris rowjack... Lalu your and my English deteriorate further!

Hapuskan /k!!
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:04 AM

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Sini suka memurtabakkan bahasa. That all.
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:05 AM

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Ini Tanah apa?

Kena guna bahasa aperrrrrr?
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:05 AM

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next 20 years i oredi die.
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Jan 14 2020, 08:04 AM)
Sini suka memurtabakkan bahasa. That all.
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Still remember in the early day, seben enforcing English only policy citing this is an English forum.

But we all know how it progressed from there. laugh.gif
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:07 AM

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like someone posted. no need to pass so no need to learn. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:07 AM

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Too much RnR
People too busy feeling depress
Or not bother to learn England
Because RnR will fly then to prince land
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(pigeot23 @ Jan 14 2020, 08:00 AM)
I realise unker of 50 yo above. Either they english very lousy(can't speak properly) or they english very powderful.
Mostly those who can't speak is they are dropout.

Those unker English lagi powderful if they have go America/Australia for tertiary education.
But nowadays many people study english since kindergarten till college/university level still english very de lousy.
Even those Malaysia youngster who went America/Australia/English-first country for tertiary education come back english still lousy.

Limited use of vocabulary and full of grammar mistakes / mixed language.

How come our English become so bad?
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You dont need good vocab or perfect grammar for most jobs, even for positions in MNC.
Its good to have but not compulsory.

As long as you can convey your message and able to communicate effectively in the meeting,workshop, on-site and etc, there isnt much emphasize to use perfect english.
The problem starts when you cannot speak and write decently that people not able to understand you or worst misinterpreted your message.

Most people do not speak english on a daily basis. They more likely have their thought process in their own mother tongue which then translated into english.
This is why now most youngsters or even adults not able to speak well in English.


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post Jan 14 2020, 08:15 AM

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Wasn't it English the medium of instruction in most public schools until it was changed to Malay??
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 14 2020, 08:07 AM)
Too much RnR
People too busy feeling depress
Or not bother to learn England
Because RnR will fly then to prince land
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England =/= ENGLISH
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:17 AM

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Say you, what? From statistic where you got. Reading from /k england?
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:18 AM

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Too much mixed language here in msia.

England became mangland.




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post Jan 14 2020, 08:18 AM

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easier for an one eye to lead the blinds.
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(empstar @ Jan 14 2020, 08:16 AM)
England  =/= ENGLISH
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(pigeot23 @ Jan 14 2020, 08:00 AM)
But nowadays many people study english since kindergarten till college/university level still english very de lousy.
Even those Malaysia youngster who went America/Australia/English-first country for tertiary education come back english still lousy.
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People said the best way to master English is to speak on daily basis. The problem here is we teach English similar to teaching Math and Physics: only teachers who speak and students only listen. For sure students would never able to speak decently.

Read and write maybe, but not speak.
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(gotgiant @ Jan 14 2020, 08:01 AM)
U is stupid very much
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 14 2020, 08:17 AM)
Say you, what? From statistic where you got. Reading from /k england?
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Malaysia drops 9 spots in English proficiency ranking for non-native speakers

https://www.nst.com.my/education/2018/10/42...native-speakers
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(pigeot23 @ Jan 14 2020, 08:00 AM)
I realise unker of 50 yo above. Either they english very lousy(can't speak properly mostly due to dropout) or they english very powderful.
Those unker English lagi powderful if they have chance go America/Australia for tertiary education.

But nowadays many people study english since kindergarten till college/university level still english very de lousy.
Even those Malaysia youngster who went America/Australia/English-first country for tertiary education come back english still lousy.

Limited use of vocabulary and full of grammar mistakes / mixed language.

How come our English become so bad?
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cos 40plus years of brainwashing with the divisive doctrines of R&R!
Meanwhile the Elites send their kids to Aussie & other overseas international schools!
Guess which GLC when these kids comes back to be director or CEO? whistling.gif
#SapuMalaysia! rclxm9.gif

‘Stupid and uneducated’ people preferred, Tunku Ismail told
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ku-ismail-told/
“The individual answered that it was for two simple reasons, the first is to obtain votes.

“And the second is to make it easy to control the minds of the stupid and uneducated.

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post Jan 14 2020, 08:34 AM

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Because in the past the elites study in English medium schools

Nowadays the elites study in SK schools

The communists study in SKJC
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:39 AM

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becuz influence from fake english aka american engrish
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:43 AM

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Because Malaysia is in a way disadvantaged as we have to master 2 or 3 or more languages. Result: most people have half baked proficiency in all of them. Not only English. If you compare our written and spoken Mandarin with China or Taiwan, our Mandarin level is superficial. We use superficial words a lot. The same with English. We use half baked English to get by but are really lacking when it comes to articulating our thoughts....
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:45 AM

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tok to those 60-70yo of all races all can speak proper engrand

meanwhile naodays 20yos...
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(pigeot23 @ Jan 14 2020, 08:00 AM)
I realise unker of 50 yo above. Either they english very lousy(can't speak properly mostly due to dropout) or they english very powderful.
Those unker English lagi powderful if they have chance go America/Australia for tertiary education.

But nowadays many people study english since kindergarten till college/university level still english very de lousy.
Even those Malaysia youngster who went America/Australia/English-first country for tertiary education come back english still lousy.

Limited use of vocabulary and full of grammar mistakes / mixed language.

How come our English become so bad?
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I have spotted many grammars errors here. GG Engrand.
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:47 AM

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Dasar pandang ke timur.

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post Jan 14 2020, 08:49 AM

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Salahan najib?

Salahan rosmah beg tangan cincin
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(Strike @ Jan 14 2020, 08:49 AM)
Salahan najib?

Salahan rosmah beg tangan cincin
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(pigeot23 @ Jan 14 2020, 08:00 AM)
I realise unker of 50 yo above. Either they english very lousy(can't speak properly mostly due to dropout) or they english very powderful.
Those unker English lagi powderful if they have chance go America/Australia for tertiary education.

But nowadays many people study english since kindergarten till college/university level still english very de lousy.
Even those Malaysia youngster who went America/Australia/English-first country for tertiary education come back english still lousy.

Limited use of vocabulary and full of grammar mistakes / mixed language.

How come our English become so bad?
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How come? Look above for your answer! laugh.gif
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:55 AM

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Di sini we no speaking Bahasa penjajah
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Jan 14 2020, 08:34 AM)
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Nowadays the elites' kids study in Aussie/International schools!
While the serfs in gomen schools!

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FIXED! whistling.gif
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 14 2020, 08:33 AM)
cos 40plus years of brainwashing with the divisive doctrines of R&R!
Meanwhile the Elites send their kids to Aussie & other overseas international schools!
Guess which GLC when these kids comes back to be director or CEO? whistling.gif
#SapuMalaysia! rclxm9.gif

‘Stupid and uneducated’ people preferred, Tunku Ismail told
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ku-ismail-told/
“The individual answered that it was for two simple reasons, the first is to obtain votes.

“And the second is to make it easy to control the minds of the stupid and uneducated.
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Najib always suka org bodoh macam Mazlan.

Tapi Rosmah tak suka say he is surrounded by Goons. LOL.
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QUOTE(8bitguy @ Jan 14 2020, 08:56 AM)
Najib always suka org bodoh macam Mazlan.

Tapi Rosmah tak suka say he is surrounded by Goons. LOL.
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You are not being fair to me!
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QUOTE(8bitguy @ Jan 14 2020, 08:56 AM)
Najib always suka org bodoh macam Mazlan.

Tapi Rosmah tak suka say he is surrounded by Goons. LOL.
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shut up la macais. u more seisohai no ballz
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 14 2020, 08:58 AM)
You are not being fair to me!
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CAN I ADVISE YOU SOMETHING??!!!
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QUOTE(8bitguy @ Jan 14 2020, 08:58 AM)
CAN I ADVISE YOU SOMETHING??!!!
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post Jan 14 2020, 09:00 AM

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This again.
I've seen similar threads like this for more than 20 times,and everyone always comment the same thing.
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post Jan 14 2020, 09:06 AM

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there were english schools backthen, thats why u see some unker aunty england powderful
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QUOTE(pigeot23 @ Jan 14 2020, 08:00 AM)
I realise unker of 50 yo above. Either they english very lousy(can't speak properly mostly due to dropout) or they english very powderful.
Those unker English lagi powderful if they have chance go America/Australia for tertiary education.

But nowadays many people study english since kindergarten till college/university level still english very de lousy.
Even those Malaysia youngster who went America/Australia/English-first country for tertiary education come back english still lousy.

Limited use of vocabulary and full of grammar mistakes / mixed language.

How come our English become so bad?
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This forum's fault Coz many write retarded English like bestest or gooding etc ! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(pigeot23 @ Jan 14 2020, 08:00 AM)
I realise unker of 50 yo above. Either they english very lousy(can't speak properly mostly due to dropout) or they english very powderful.
Those unker English lagi powderful if they have chance go America/Australia for tertiary education.

But nowadays many people study english since kindergarten till college/university level still english very de lousy.
Even those Malaysia youngster who went America/Australia/English-first country for tertiary education come back english still lousy.

Limited use of vocabulary and full of grammar mistakes / mixed language.

How come our English become so bad?
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They can actually speak good English. But they speakee Engrand 2 u time they come down standard so u can understand.
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post Jan 14 2020, 11:05 AM

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Still better than African croele.
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post Jan 14 2020, 11:06 AM

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jawi > english
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post Jan 14 2020, 06:29 PM

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2018 - Malaysia dropped to 22nd place.
2019 - 26th place. laugh.gif

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http://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news/144597...l-below-s-pore/
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post Jan 14 2020, 06:45 PM

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Ts are you think your engrand berry powderful?
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post Jan 14 2020, 06:46 PM

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post Jan 14 2020, 06:47 PM

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Gooding English oso attitude like 2" buat apa
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post Jan 14 2020, 07:41 PM

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dah lama tinggalkan tanah inggeris, jadi bahasa mereka pun aku tinggalkan juga disana
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post Jan 14 2020, 07:44 PM

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Ts belongs to the lousy section

"Either they english very lousy"

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